Sleeping Qiqong

[Scholar]

Does anyone know where I can learn it online ? I really like the concept but I cant find anything teaching how to do it. Thanks !

[senseless virtue]

Sifu John Dolic's website: http://www.qigongchinesehealth.com/sleeping_qigong

 

I learned the style with him, so I can endorse its validity. A very fun practice.

 

[Earl Grey]

26 minutes ago, virtue said:

Sifu John Dolic's website: http://www.qigongchinesehealth.com/sleeping_qigong

 

I learned the style with him, so I can endorse its validity. A very fun practice.

 

 

Seconded. It is a fantastic skill to have and will change your life when you really understand it--I can not state this with enough emphasis to reflect it. 

[ronko]

i believe tom bisio also has a book out on it

[Scholar]

Thank you guys for the answer, will ded take a loot at jonh dolic's course and tom bisio's book, thanks !

[Earl Grey]

1 minute ago, Scholar said:

Thank you guys for the answer, will ded take a loot at jonh dolic's course and tom bisio's book, thanks !

But aren’t you still trying to teach your ultimate technique? 😂

[Scholar]

1 minute ago, Earl Grey said:

But aren’t you still trying to teach your ultimate technique? 😂

Yes, Im looking at it so I can make my superior system even superior 🤣🤣🤣

[senseless virtue]

On 2/19/2020 at 8:42 PM, Scholar said:

tom bisio's book

I took a look in Tom Bisio's Sleeping Qigong book finally.

 

The book seems to introduce authentic Sleeping Qigong that is also genuine Daoist alchemy like it is supposed to. I cannot judge whether the instructions in the book are complete and safe for self-initiation, but I would suppose not.

 

Almost all the methods in the book instruct connecting to particular kidney points by having sword fingers in the genital area. There are complicated visualizations involving Chinese pictograms.

 

It seems to depict more ancient variations of the Shuigong practice in contrast to Sifu Dolic's teachings. I suspect that the lineage masters of Shuigong have gradually modified the practice to accomplish the same results with more intuitive and simpler methods.

 

I would expect the same type of old fashioned training flavors to pop-up in other Sleeping Qigong fragments that you might encounter outside of the proper Shuigong lineage.

 

 

Edited February 25, 2020 by virtue

[Nuralshamal]

@Earl Grey

Would you mind sharing some more about the program?

I read about it online, it seems there's a 9 hour basic course and an 8 hour advanced course after 1 year's practice.

Did you do both? 

And of course you don't need to reveal all :'D just the gist of it.

Edited April 23 by Nuralshamal

[EFreethought]

If you are doing sleeping qigong incorrectly, how do you correct yourself? And how would you know if you are not doing it correctly?

 

[Nuralshamal]

3 hours ago, EFreethought said:

If you are doing sleeping qigong incorrectly, how do you correct yourself? And how would you know if you are not doing it correctly?

 

I'm looking forward to @Earl Grey and @senseless virtue chiming in with the Dong Fang Shui Gong of John Dolic & Nan Yun  would love to their thoughts based on their experience with this system.

What I know from Master Wu's sleeping qigong is that as long as your sleep quality is better, that means you're doing it right

That's one of the main things: sleep quantity and sleep quality. The more quality the less quantity you need.

My best experience in retreat was "black out sleep on command". I experienced it 2 times in retreat, and maybe 2 times at home on my own. It takes a long time of dedicated practice, and it also depends on your karma from previous lifetimes how fast the full effects will fructify.

If your karma is good, it's super fast. 

[Master Logray]

Most Sleeping Gong is merely meditating lying down.    The purpose is not to improve sleep quality, nor quantity, unless you happen to have a sleep problem.   The theory is that sitting meditation is insufficient to produce result.   So a cultivator has to be "always have Chi around" during the day and make use of the sleeping time.   Properly done, the cultivator can practise "Kung Fu" and achieve a certain result even though he is asleep.   The method is to reach a meditative state and falls sleep.   Although the state is not exactly the same as sitting meditation, it is close enough and beneficial.

[Giles]

6 hours ago, Master Logray said:

Most Sleeping Gong is merely meditating lying down.    The purpose is not to improve sleep quality, nor quantity, unless you happen to have a sleep problem.   The theory is that sitting meditation is insufficient to produce result.   So a cultivator has to be "always have Chi around" during the day and make use of the sleeping time.   Properly done, the cultivator can practise "Kung Fu" and achieve a certain result even though he is asleep.   The method is to reach a meditative state and falls sleep.   Although the state is not exactly the same as sitting meditation, it is close enough and beneficial.

 

QFT

 

[Thrice Daily]

So is this sleeping qigong, not actual sleep? 
 

A lot said but not much said in the thread as to what it actually is.

 

Thanks for any clarity you might share.

[Master Logray]

One is lying down Kung Fu.  Another is Cultivation by Sleep. 

[Annnon]

*I didn't read the whole post because I'm short on time* But I would like to know if is there any relation to Sleeping Qigong and Yoga Nidra.

[BigSkyDiamond]

There is this reddit thread discussing further the Sleeping Qigong by John Dolic.

The level one is nine lessons x $200 each = $1,800 for 9 hours training

The level two advanced is eight more lessons x $200 each = another $1,600 for 8 more hours training.

 

pricey

 

 

 

 

Edited July 2 by BigSkyDiamond

[Dainin]

In case you might be interested, the last two sections of Tom Bisio's Daoist Meditation course ($150) are on Sleeping Meditation and Sleeping Gong.

 

He also has a book ($20): Daoist Sleeping Meditation: Chen Tuan's Sleeping Gong.

 

I think that master who pulls trucks with his balls (Master Tu maybe?) has an 8 Pieces of Brocade DVD that also has some information about sleeping qigong on it. I haven't seen it.

 

Edited July 2 by Dainin