Seeing, Recognising & Maintaining One's Enlightening Potential

[RigdzinTrinley]

Well said well said

[3bob]

all those things, including mind which is also a thing, have a master, that master is Self. Self has zero doubt for doubt  is of the mind.

Edited February 14, 2016 by 3bob

[Kar3n]

Thank your this thread, CT.

 

It is simply beautiful!

[C T]

Undelineated in any dimension, the Dharmadhātu encompasses the entirety of both experience (representational consciousness) and non-experience (consciousness itself). There is neither any “thing” nor any “non-thing” that falls outside this all-encompassing spaciousness of consciousness.

 

 

 

~ P. Ladakh

[RigdzinTrinley]

EH MA HO!

[manitou]

Undelineated;  before Word.  Beyond relativity.  Noumenon.

 

My head whirls when I think of all the relativity that our senses are unable to perceive.  how many other dimensions there are within the realm of phenomenon.  And yet I can't help but think of the realm prior to relativity as the Original Template for all realms of phenomenon.  The oak is in the acorn.

 

The double rainbow reminds me of 'as above, so below'.  Our relative manifestations a product of the Pure Essence and the product of the subsequent contortions and conditionings.

[manitou]

EH MA HO!

 

No samsaric rebirth?

[C T]

Nothing, absolutely nothing arises without causes and conditions. Whether it’s external phenomena, no matter how small or subtle it may be, or whether it's any mental state that any being experiences, everything, absolutely everything that has ever existed, or has yet to exist, will have arisen out of causes and conditions.

 

Similarly, the moment when the causes and conditions of your own enlightenment are present, you will become a Buddha. In other words, the moment when your two accumulations of merit and wisdom are complete, Buddhahood will naturally arise as the result, and nothing, absolutely nothing can stop this process.

 

~ Chamtrul Rinpoche

 

 

 

 

[manitou]

I wonder if all of us pay attention to the merit part of this wonderful formula. How utterly calming this is, knowing that there is no 'trying' and all things will come to pass in their right season - including buddhahood.  I've noticed, even on our wonderful forum, that people will cling to 'I am just perfect the way I am' but discount the necessity of riding the ox on our own behavior.  Yes, we are perfect just the way we are at any given moment - but that perfection doesn't necessarily mean boddhisatva-hood.  It may just mean that we are in the right place at the right time, with the right mindset, given the causes and conditions that have brought us to this point.  We may be stuck in this very place unless we do something to morph our own causes and conditions - for eons and eons.

 

Expansion doesn't happen on its own, IMO.  If that were the case, all people would be realized buddhas and the only variable would be the illusion of time.  But Aho!  Perhaps we are all buddhas in various states of realization.  Contingent on our causes and conditions.

 

Urobouros strikes once again.

[RigdzinTrinley]

Dear CT

 

Which Chamtrul Rinpoche are u quoting?

[C T]

Dear CT

 

Which Chamtrul Rinpoche are u quoting?

Dear RT..

 

this is the only Chamtrul Rinpoche that i know of. Thank you for asking.

 

[RigdzinTrinley]

I'm his translator and student for some years

 

Just wanted to be sure its him

[Apech]

I'm his translator and student for some years

 

Just wanted to be sure its him

 

He's done the ngondro three times!!!! (according to wiki)

[C T]

Returning home (to basic wakefulness) is always an inward journey (of wisdom),

but with an outward expression (of compassion).

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ P. Ladakh

[manitou]

Perhaps it is because it's only as we grow into acceptance of self that we grow into compassion for others.

Edited March 1, 2016 by manitou

[C T]

What is the difference between the real state of rigpa and the imitation? Check whether or not there is any clinging, any sense of keeping hold of something. With conceptual rigpa you notice a sense of trying to keep a state, trying to maintain a state, trying to nurture a state. There is a sense of hope or fear and also a sense of being occupied. Understand? The keeping means there’s a sense of protecting, of not wanting to lose it, in the back of the mind. This is not bad, it’s good, and for some people there’s no way around training like that in the beginning. Through training in this way, that conceptual aspect becomes increasingly refined and clarified.

 

So you practice more, more, more. Now you have more of a sense of openness, but still you’re holding this openness. All right, then, let the openness go. Let’s say that after two months you let it go. But still you’re staying within the openness — so then you practice letting go of the staying. And somehow there is still a remnant of wanting to achieve it again. So you let that go as well, and slowly again let it go, let it go, until you become very much “just there,” and finally very free and easy.

 

~ Tsoknyi Rinpoche

 

 

[C T]

Liberation as ever-perfect does not refer to the liberation of a Buddha that has occurred in the past, such as that of Shakyamuni Buddha, but to the way in which countless beings are liberated right now and will continue to be liberated in the future simply by realizing their primordial purity.

 

The basis, the path, and the ultimate result in this system are all of a singular, undifferentiated nature - total, pure awareness. Thus, the primordial freedom that one seeks to attain by practicing the spiritual path is something that one already possesses. Intrinsic freedom is itself the path that leads to the actualization of the goal.

 

~ Jamgon Kongtrul Lodro Thaye

 

[manitou]

There is a sense of hope or fear and also a sense of being occupied.

These passages are so essential, so primordial, that they are almost beyond comment.

 

To BE the occupier. There's the trick.

Edited March 6, 2016 by manitou

[manitou]

I read too the 9th Karmapa of CT's signature line:  "Appearances are mind, mind is emptiness, emptiness is spontaneous presence, spontaneous presence is Self-Liberation"

[steve]

The Bonpos have a very similar teaching, though in 5 steps, attributed to the 8th century master Dawa Gyaltsen:

 

Vision is mind.
Mind is empty.
Emptiness is clear light.
Clear light is union.
Union is great bliss.

 

It's a wonderful practice!

[Jeff]

The Bonpos have a very similar teaching, though in 5 steps, attributed to the 8th century master Dawa Gyaltsen:

 

Vision is mind.

Mind is empty.

Emptiness is clear light.

Clear light is union.

Union is great bliss.

 

It's a wonderful practice!

 

Great description. Looked at from the other perspective... All that you see, is just a translation in (local) mind...

[manitou]

Great description. Looked at from the other perspective... All that you see, is just a translation in (local) mind...

 

The other perspective being duality vs. singularity?

[Jeff]

The other perspective being duality vs. singularity?

Sort of, but if you think of Steve's post as building up... My other perspective would be it coming back down...

 

A Taoist equivalent of what Steve said would be (not exact) something like...

 

Ten thousand things are from the Three...

The Three are just the perception of the Two...

The two are just the movement (or change of state) of the One...

The One is the emerged basis...

Of the One from the Dao.

 

Hence, my statement relates to the Three and the perception of the Ten Thousand things...

Edited March 8, 2016 by Jeff

[C T]

We do not have control over the arising of discursive thoughts. Discursive thoughts do not arise according to a schedule; they can and do arise at any time whatsoever. Exactly in accordance with that, meditation needs to be something which can and does arise at any time whatsoever.

 

In other words, given that the arising of discursive thoughts is unscheduled, to have meditation which is liberating we need a meditation in which the arising of discursive thoughts comes together with the meditation, and the meditation comes together with the arising of discursive thoughts.  

 

– Tsoknyi Rinpoche

[C T]

~ Secret yogis ~
 

Even in this world, and even now, there are said to be many hidden yogis or discreet yogis, called bepay naljor in Tibetan. It means those realized ones who are not generally recognized as great spiritual sages or saints, but have deeply tasted the fruit of enlightenment, and are living it. Perhaps they are anonymously doing their good works here among us right now.

 

The infinite vast expanse is one’s own inconceivable nature. Who can say who has realized it and who hasn’t? When we travel around the world or experience other dimensions, there are so many beings who have tasted it. We can see it in their behavior, in their countenance, and in stories that are told—not just in the Dzogchen tradition or the Buddhist tradition, but in any tradition, and in our Western world too.

 

This true nature is so vast and inconceivable that even some birds and animals and beings in other unseen dimensions can be said to have realized it, as in some of the ancient Indian Jataka stories and other teaching tales. It is always said that everything is the self-radiant display of the primordial Buddha Samantabhadra. There are infinite numbers of Buddhas and infinite numbers of beings. Who can say who is excluded from it?

 

~ Nyoshul Khen Rinpoche