Flying Phoenix Chi Kung

[Vajra Fist]

16 hours ago, Boreas said:

Thanks for your point of view.

 

Not to say that acid reflux isn't a pain in the a** but it's easier to manage with medication and qigong can help as well.

In my case, qigong won't reshape my skull and jaw, I'm afraid...

I prefer to go the way presented on the website: not using it as a bandage to hide the fact that my body isn't in a proper shape right now.

Better to go back to a basic meditation practice that will help me find some calm in those late news and don't ask the impossible from a practice and risk going resentful on it.

 

Plus, I've been practicing DVD1 and 2 for quite some time everyday now, at least 45 minutes and, unlike you, I don't feel any significant difference... So, I think it's a reasonable reason to say that FPCK isn't working for me right now.

Not saying that it doesn't work at all!

Just like I wrote earlier that I just have to be realistic on what it can achieve.

 

 

It didn't really do anything for me too. I noticed a bit of a mellow feeling during forms, but nothing really carrying over into daily life. If anything, I found myself becoming a bit more irritable.

 

Some former members here were quite enthusiastic to point to earlier comments on how this system doesn't work for 'evil people'. With the implication being that I was an evil person. I wouldn't see myself like that personally, but who knows. 

Edited July 4 by Vajra Fist

[Miffymog]

The question, what does FPCK do for you, is something I'm currently thinking about, as I've recently re-taken up the practice after having a brake for about 6 months, and it's given me the opportunity to compare it to other things.

 

I injured a core muscle down my side playing badminton just before Christmas, and this prevented me from doing a number of FPCK meditations, so I decided to try some other things out instead. I did some simple sitting and following the breath. Did a bit of 30 mins of ZZ. And signed up for a 12 week online course of Tai Chi led by one of Lam Kam Chuens' son covering his simple short form, which consists of 'grasp the peignoir by the tail' and ' the single whip'.

 

It was nice to have a change in practice after having done FPCK for about 3 years, but I was happy to return to it after my injury had fully recovered and I'd finished the Tai Chi lessons.

 

So what do I find the benefits of FPCK to be, especially after having had 6 months off it?

 

The first part of the answer is what effect does it have on the body. In this regard, I reckon it's kind of similar to other internal martial arts. When I give this answer to other people, I first compare it to more western kinds of exercise, such as weight lifting, cardio-vascular exercises like running, or stretching practices like yoga.

 

I say that in all these regards it is does not give me a great deal of strength, when I run about on a play 5-a-side football pitch, I'm out of breath in 5 minutes, and I'm no where near being able to touch my toes.

 

However, due to the way the practice engages your posterial muscles, when I go to play tennis or badminton, despite being in my late forties, I'm easily as fast around the court as people in their twenties, and this is combined with fast reactions and a good level of co-ordination.

 

As I said, this will certainly be true of other internal martial arts, but it's a nice consequence of FPCK. And a mildly interesting one as I often try to move a slowly as I can during the moving meditations, but the consequence is that it actually gives me good speed over a short distance.

 

Is this any better for you than having a good weightlifting regime, good cardio-vascular fitness or good flexibility? (although my flexibility is actually fairly good from this kind of thing, I just happen to have very long legs compared to my body and a slipped disc that prevents me from bending a lot)

 

I don't know, but its something that for me engages my mind, and so I stay motivated to keep doing it. Also, one of the benefits of this kind of thing is that it keeps you relatively injury free.

 

How about benefits that are more specific to FPCK? This one is a bit tricker to answer because the benefits you get from this kind of chi kung is of course similar to other types of chi kung.

 

One simple answer here is that when doing a simple static seated meditation, the activation of the FPCK energy at the beginning of the meditation, which is achieved by performing a simple breathing pattern, means that the time always goes faster than I expect.

 

If I just follow the breath with out performing a FPCK breathing pattern, sometimes a 30 minute sit goes quickly, sometimes it does not. But with the breathing pattern, every time it feels like only 20 minutes have passed, when its actually 30. And this extends to all the FPCK meditations. This isn't exactly a massive selling point to the practice, but is something that stands out.

 

Coupled to this is that the energy generated is always pleasant and enjoyable. Again, something that I have found to be more of a variable thing in other practices.

 

I'd also like to say that you can enter into some quite deep levels of mind/body integration, but I'm running out of energy writing this post right now, so that is all I'll say here. I may add more on this aspect later.

 

Anyway, its a practice I keep coming back to and enjoy. It's also nice having this thread to turn to for support, inspiration and advice.

 

So thank you Sifu Terry

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

Ask not what FPCK can do for you, but what you can do for FPCK

[daobro]

I had a crazy experience yesterday. After taking Sifu Terry's Saturday class, I went to eat some lentil soup. Mid-sip, around 30min after doing the qigong, I suddenly felt a rush of energy to my head. I could see a blue aura in everything, along with a depth that is hard to put into words. It was like I could perceive a large amount of space in between things. It was especially pronounced when I looked down at my arm, and outside at the trees.

 

Time seemed to slow down too -- it was like I could perceive the space between things, as well as the space between moments.

 

The peak lasted around 30 min, and the afterglow lasted the rest of the day. Everything was heightened, I was happy the whole day, and music especially sounded good.

 

Now I recall a thought I had before: "Flying Phoenix eliminates the need to do drugs". The time dilation and altered state of consciousness were similar to being high on weed, but without any detriment to my health or my intelligence (the opposite, in fact).

 

I'd felt similar experiences last year, but I don't remember them being anywhere this strong, and it'd been a long time since I felt anything like this. I think I'd gotten used to the energy, and also stressed out from work. Either way, this was probably my most "wow" experience so far on Flying Phoenix. And a good reminder to relax and slow down sometimes (and to keep practicing).

[zen-bear]

On 7/4/2025 at 5:46 AM, Vajra Fist said:

 

It didn't really do anything for me too. I noticed a bit of a mellow feeling during forms, but nothing really carrying over into daily life. If anything, I found myself becoming a bit more irritable.

 

Some former members here were quite enthusiastic to point to earlier comments on how this system doesn't work for 'evil people'. With the implication being that I was an evil person. I wouldn't see myself like that personally, but who knows. 

Hi Vajra Fist,
Important points of clarification:  There is no inference or implication that "if the FP Qigong 'doesn't work' for someone, then that someone is 'evil'."
First of all,  I had never stated nor written that "Flying Phoenix Qigong doesn't work for evil people"---nor has any other instructor in Bok Fu Pai arts nor any of my in-person students.
What I quoted Grandmaster Doo Wai as having said is this:   "Evil people will not to practice Flying Phoenix Qigong."

• And I will elaborate upon this statement to explain exactly what GM Doo Wai meant based on my being in the room with him when he said it, and based on my direct experience in teaching FP Qigong since 1992:  

"Evil people will not continue to practice FP Qigong once they have tried it and felt its effects--because evil people DO NOT like the way FP Qigong transforms their body-mind to pristine health."

The implication is that FP Qigong works on everyone--to some varying extent.
The fact is that evil and corrupted people who are intent to continue doing evil, will not practice FP Qigong because they don't want to stop their ways--i.e., they don't want their nervous system reprogrammed to not do evil.
The implication ( and yogic fact) being that FP Qigong is so steadily transformative of the body-mind to a pristine (and at times blissful) state of health (homeostasis) that any person who is so bent on doing evil (and is thus so mentally bent by evil) will not allow anything or any influence coe near that might unbend him/her.   
The implication being that there is no such thing as "original sin."
That's the reality that's experientially  proven by Feng Do Duk's Ehrmei Mountain Flying Phoenix Qigong.
That's the experience shared by GM Doo Wai when he said, "Evil people will not practice Flying Phoenix Qigong."

Relatedly, the healing and purifying effects of FP Qigong are so extremely powerful that after years of practice, one becomes thoroughly and deeply calibrated to discern and  recognize evil energy instantly (on a neurological level)--and even distinguish between different "grades" of evil.  In November 2024, I wrote this substack article about sighting and almost confronting a prolific serial killer, Lonnie Franklin Jr., in L.A in August 1995.  (This article was in follow-up to my Oct. 10  article about attracting and crossing paths with another serial killer 9 years earlier in 1986 [named Michael Player, aka. "The Skid Row Killer"] in the Miracle Mile district of L.A., and explaining how that earlier was my harshest lesson in anger management.)
https://open.substack.com/pub/terencedunn/p/seeing-the-grim-sleeper-in-my-very?r=5i7g9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

In this substack article, I explained how I was able to instantly recognize this person (who later turned out to be Lonnie Franklin Jr., aka the "Grim Sleeper") the instant I laid eyes on him as I was checking out of a Ralphs supermarket in LA and he was 4 check stands away to my right.  When I wrote the article, I attributed my ability to instantly recognize him as a dangerous killer --AND knew that he had just killed someone--to my practice of the Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung system for the previous 21 years.

But I am stating here and now that I believe that my "ability to instantly recognize" was also attributable--to much lesser extent--to having practiced FP Qigong for 4 years, as of August 1995.  My experience-based belief is that being in the constant self-healing state of allostasis (self-healing) and its higher state of consciousness (due to its deeply mind-body integrating yogic mechanism) enabled by FP Qigong practice enables one to readily recognize on a cellular energy level anything that is extremely opposite in nature--i.e., evil destructive energy.

 

I hope this clarifies.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

P.S.    This is the link my earlier written article in 2024 about my encounter with "The Skid Row Killer" on October 8, 1986:

https://open.substack.com/pub/terencedunn/p/sifu-terry-dunns-tai-chi-for-health-ac0?r=5i7g9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by zen-bear

[Vajra Fist]

49 minutes ago, zen-bear said:

Hi Vajra Fist,
Important points of clarification:  There is no inference or implication that "if the FP Qigong 'doesn't work' for someone, then that someone is 'evil'."
First of all,  I had never stated nor written that "Flying Phoenix Qigong doesn't work for evil people"---nor has any other instructor in Bok Fu Pai arts nor any of my in-person students.
What I quoted Grandmaster Doo Wai as having said is this:   "Evil people will not to practice Flying Phoenix Qigong."

• And I will elaborate upon this statement to explain exactly what GM Doo Wai meant based on my being in the room with him when he said it, and based on my direct experience in teaching FP Qigong since 1992:  

"Evil people will not continue to practice FP Qigong once they have tried it and felt its effects--because evil people DO NOT like the way FP Qigong transforms their body-mind to pristine health."

The implication is that FP Qigong works on everyone--to some varying extent.
The fact is that evil and corrupted people who are intent to continue doing evil, will not practice FP Qigong because they don't want to stop their ways--i.e., they don't want their nervous system reprogrammed to not do evil.
The implication ( and yogic fact) being that FP Qigong is so steadily transformative of the body-mind to a pristine (and at times blissful) state of health (homeostasis) that any person who is so bent on doing evil (and is thus so mentally bent by evil) will not allow anything or any influence coe near that might unbend him/her.   
The implication being that there is no such thing as "original sin."
That's the reality that's experientially  proven by Feng Do Duk's Ehrmei Mountain Flying Phoenix Qigong.
That's the experience shared by GM Doo Wai when he said, "Evil people will not practice Flying Phoenix Qigong."

Relatedly, the healing and purifying effects of FP Qigong are so extremely powerful that after years of practice, one becomes thoroughly and deeply calibrated to discern and  recognize evil energy instantly (on a neurological level)--and even distinguish between different "grades" of evil.  In November 2024, I wrote this substack article about sighting and almost confronting a prolific serial killer, Lonnie Franklin Jr., in L.A in August 1995.  (This article was in follow-up to my Oct. 10  article about attracting and crossing paths with another serial killer 9 years earlier in 1986 [named Michael Player, aka. "The Skid Row Killer"] in the Miracle Mile district of L.A., and explaining how that earlier was my harshest lesson in anger management.)
https://open.substack.com/pub/terencedunn/p/seeing-the-grim-sleeper-in-my-very?r=5i7g9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

In this substack article, I explained how I was able to instantly recognize this person (who later turned out to be Lonnie Franklin Jr., aka the "Grim Sleeper") the instant I laid eyes on him as I was checking out of a Ralphs supermarket in LA and he was 4 check stands away to my right.  When I wrote the article, I attributed my ability to instantly recognize him as a dangerous killer --AND knew that he had just killed someone--to my practice of the Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung system for the previous 21 years.

But I am stating here and now that I believe that my "ability to instantly recognize" was also attributable--to much lesser extent--to having practiced FP Qigong for 4 years, as of August 1995.  My experience-based belief is that being in the constant self-healing state of allostasis (self-healing) and its higher state of consciousness (due to its deeply mind-body integrating yogic mechanism) enabled by FP Qigong practice enables one to readily recognize on a cellular energy level anything that is extremely opposite in nature--i.e., evil destructive energy.

 

I hope this clarifies.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

P.S.    This is the link my earlier written article in 2024 about my encounter with "The Skid Row Killer" on October 8, 1986:

https://open.substack.com/pub/terencedunn/p/sifu-terry-dunns-tai-chi-for-health-ac0?r=5i7g9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the clarification. I've seen long term dedicated students of this system say this to other people on other threads as well. Appreciate you being willing to set the record straight. 

 

For the record, I don't think I'm particularly evil. I'm just a middle-aged dad who enjoys walking the dog and painting plastic model kits. I've never felt inclined to hurt anyone. But it did make me wonder about whether I was a real bastard in a past life. 

 

Perhaps I'm just insensitive to what it's doing internally. I wouldn't say I'm a particularly subtle person. Maybe time to give it another go