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I believe that ‘Judge not’ warns against ego-based condemnation that feeds separation and karmic entanglement. But there’s a world of difference between reactive judgment and the clear seeing that arises from compassion and alignment with truth. IMO Jesus wasn’t condemning out of wounded pride, he was cutting through hypocrisy to protect and awaken. So we might say real spiritual maturity knows when silence is love, and when fierce clarity is love. It’s not about never discerning, but about where it’s coming from within us.

Actions that bring us closer to the light... gardening looking at the ocean walking (extra points if done in nature) socializing with friends hugs good books, good art, good music home cooking finally cleaning out the garage pizza (OK, maybe not but this is my bias) Actions that might or might not bring us closer to the light... posting on Daobums

there wouldn’t be much traffic on the forum otherwise.

Leave the garage for another day!

Perhaps at the end of the day we are all sock puppets of the One.

got nothing to do nevertheless, the breath moves with me or without

Urrrgha .... Ummm , no, you misunderstood yourself . You said : " the spirit/magical realm vs. the material, " I suggest removing the vs from that ^ not this new arrangement of 'physical vs mental ' . vs means 'against, opposed to , or in contrast to '. Spirit our magic should not work or be against the material . it should not oppose it but give depth meaning and insight into the material and although it can seem in contrast to it , for many it isn't ; for example a traditional Aboriginal believe ( before invasion of the nasty people ) was 'this IS heaven ' . No separation between spiritual and material , they interweave and flow into each other .

Should the clear simple list of answers to the opening question be put down yet ..... or do we need a much longer to and fro into obscurity first ?

if you are asking the questions, since you are asking the questions, then there is a part of you that is ready

" If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world." From The Hobbit

You left out the most obvious - cleaning the windows .

@Apech how come there’s a laughing sockpuppet? I thought he was banned?

with me or without it is such a relief to be free of it all

alas it is also a problem if "we are so open minded that our brains are falling out". Btw there is that saying about someone who kindly saved a snake but then the snake bit him and he wondered why or how it could do so....

It is possible to observe, analyze, hypothesize and test without any judgement Judgement biases actual events. Material science prefers double blind to prevent experimenters' belief distorting results The spiritual scientist observes without prejudice. This allows unbiased hypotheses and clean experiments to test those. Perhaps the human situation is not madness so much as early learning processes in coping with adverse interference. Who can test that hypothesis?

"judge not lest ye be judged" is in pretty much every holy book, for a reason for instance in the Pali canon: "Therefore, Ānanda, do not be judgmental regarding people. Do not pass judgment on people. Those who pass judgment on people harm themselves.". — Migasālā Sutta [AN 6:44] translated from the Pāli by Bhikkhu Bodhi

Clearly Jesus hadn’t attained much spiritual progress then, evidenced by his condemnation of the Pharisees.

Ok - I just like to lighten the mood occasionally - nothing personal.

Some people and some people at various stages need a 'bubble' around them . Its a fundamentals and basic principle in many systems of magical practice . One practices to actually form this 'bubble' . I would even go as far as to say it is , at first, an essential practice and it goes further than a magical practice visualization - it is actually the first principle of philosophy given out during the first knowledge lecture in the first initiation . Which is basically ; if you are learning to use your energies , how will you control them if you cant contain them ? ( and since I cant repeat the lecture here , I will outline the philosophical lesson into other words ) Consider the steam engine and its massive potential power that can be put to all sports of uses ... how will it work if the pressure is not contained in the first place ... the steam will just waft away as vapor . of course , I don't expect you to agree :Lairg ... or even respond . I put this here as its important for some people at this present time and for some peoples level of development .

I have posted before https://www.thedaobums.com/search/?&q=heart light&author=Lairg Feel free to ask about specific aspects

Perhaps I should avoid dwelling any deeper, as I might not be ready yet, but I wonder: 1. What can one do to refine the heart? 2. would you mind providing me with an intellectual framework, in hope that it might dawn on me one day? Thank you.

Logos is Greek for "word". You may recall "In the beginning was the Word" Do your own experiments. It is useful to find a competent observer for feedback

For most humans the emotions are more refined and aligned than the mental processes. Accordingly feeling uneasy about some action/relationship/direction is usually a sign that things need to be reassessed. That is complicated when the human has interfering entities and significant karma. Fortunately the higher subplanes of the heart are cosmic so that working with the light of the heart is usually reliable Most humans do not have enough control of their thoughts to rely upon mental analysis

Are there principles of cooperation with the macro, or does one has to go on gut?

The each human format contains perhaps a trillion intelligences that more or less cooperate to produce an entity that functions in the local cosmos. A universe contains a vastly greater number of intelligences that need to be coordinated, refined, aligned and integrated so that Logos has a coherent body that it can use in relating to other universes and their Logoi The human is a microcosm so that a coherent/enlightened human naturally propagates that coherence into the local aspects of the universe If the human is incoherent the universe will instinctively protect itself from that contagion

What is this; and why is it something to be avoided; and how does a person know if they are going down that path? Thank you.

Thank you, could you elaborate a little on the concepts mentioned, please?

Have you read “Harry Potter and the Old3bob of Doom”?

If you've not seen it, this clip is worthy of watching in full. Keep reminding yourself these are actual US congressmen.

daily crocheting clouds knit together, above dark waters, below

yes. BINGO. shorthand for me as a reminder is "distraction." the other shorthand for me to stay on track is "parlor tricks" as a reminder that i don't need to develop or use "supernatural" abilities. the admonition (for me, not directing it at anyone else) is that distractions and diversions not only pull me away from the "real goal" (as noted in post above) but they become barriers and obstacles in ever getting there. the BigSky in my screen name is the remidner for me to be the sky, rest in that simple awareness, and let the clouds just drift by. i don't need to chase them. qigong practice for me is a valuable part of my daily life because it helps put me in that state of no-time and just awareness. It allows me to cultivate stillness. I am not familiar with the specific qigong that is the topic of this thread.

Bump

Bump... 😊

This thread is about: Ren Xue and Yuan Qigong by Yuan Tze 😊

By the Way. This thread is going Way off-topic... 😊

Who is Rigpa? 😊

You'd need to attend a retreat in order to learn about his moment-to-moment life and/or do teacher training with him & his wife Melissa. I highly recommend both options... 😊

Thank you! Wishing you all the best in your practices too! 😊

Of course! I am still very curious about the system. Wish you all the best in your practice

My own understanding of what Yuan Tze was conveying was slightly different @Vajra Fist. However, perhaps we can just agree to disagree? 😊

My own understanding of what Yuan Tze was conveying was slightly different @Vajra Fist. However, perhaps we can just agree to disagree? 😊

I watched this documentary with interest. He describes a state of 'oneness' as enlightenment. It reminds me of a dharma talk by Guo Gu, heir of Chan master Shen Zhen. I can't find it now, but said he had a moment of acute oneness during a retreat, sparked by watching tree branch fall in the garden. When he presented his teacher with the tree branch, he was sorely rebuked. He came to realise that the state of oneness also needs to fall away for there to be true awakening. (Couldn't find the talk, included a snippet here) And the quote below from his book

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renxue.uk

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Why not?

Starts tomorrow. 👍🏻

No thing... 😊

No. Nothing. 😊