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LDT meditation without a teacher
blue eyed snake replied to Chang dao ling's topic in Daoist Discussion
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LDT meditation without a teacher
silent thunder replied to Chang dao ling's topic in Daoist Discussion
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LDT meditation without a teacher
blue eyed snake replied to Chang dao ling's topic in Daoist Discussion
Surprised, but delighted to see something so common and available on the end of your link. Just in perusing the linked book: I think almost the same is to be found in the golden flower, (also from Cleary I think) I did indeed interpret as about the human body, roughly meaning at the start of you practice you become aware of "non being" "chi" ZongMai in the middle of your flesh body . late in the practice comes " when you sense being ( ie the fleshbody) within nonbeing ( the aura, or the subtle body) within what I call the bubble. ah yes, found it, not Cleary https://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/ch3.html the lineage of my teacher has some Tibetan roots among others. A millet pearl dropped into my body, it was like " huh, what's this" adding to this, My teacher steered me away from any reading and a lot of things happened. When I asked questions he mostly told me "you just practice, it's going well. Later I started reading and found descriptions that rang a bell. https://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/ch3.html -
OK then. I feel this coming together. So I no longer have a "self" and have the day to day experience of "form is emptiness/emptiness is form". There is just objectless "beingness", but I haven't seen any luminous gold or red shiny balls precipitate. What would cause one to do so? Where would one see or find such a thing? This reminds me of some of the stories about the remains of dead Tibetan masters, and how the leave "pearls" after death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Śarīra#
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LDT meditation without a teacher
Taoist Texts replied to Chang dao ling's topic in Daoist Discussion
well yes when the neidan appears you are indeed without self/awareness. But here being is the neidan if by form you will mean the literal form of a literal thing then yes well it sounds outlandish but it is a literal new thing in your body: varying between a luminous golden pearl (or a millet grain) to a bright red shiny tangerine-sized ball. -
...and the terms "Dao" and "the way" appear in some of the last Buddhist Mahayana Sutras, originally authored in Chinese.
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By being it seemed to me to be suggesting (to be)... presence without self, or awareness. No? I read it as a non-dual statement: When you sense form within emptiness, the it can only be called a true "emptiness"? The internal elixir is (neidan) in this case is... ?
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Hello Seniors, Some of you might've seen my other post in welcome, but for those that haven't, i'm a real fanatic when it comes cultivation. I have always admired it and the aspects thereof, but i don't think i have the talent for it. I don't have the resources to get a teacher, if there even are in my country. SO what i want to know is: How do I check if i am talented for cultivation? Any help will be hugely appreciated! Yours truly V, PathOfbeansGod
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LDT meditation without a teacher
Taoist Texts replied to Chang dao ling's topic in Daoist Discussion
Thanks and sorry. This is something lost in translation. This passage should be read not with 'being' as in 'human being' in mind, but 'being' as 'a thing' Like below whereas the thing in question is the internal elixir, the neidan -
i'd use a change in wording to say: enlightenment or the Self is what we are, for if it could "become" then it could also unbecome. We or It realizes that we are not just a human being, mind or soul which is a form used or even a god which is also a form used. (for the Self is not a thing or form and only it is truly enlightened, although and granted it can echo through beings, (including very evolved ones) but it is still a kind of mistake to say that such and such a person is enlightened for if the Self is unveiled it knows that that particular human being that many people may see, proclaim or talk about for what it really is. (a passing thing or vehicle, whether relatively young or countless eons mature in form)
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I use acupuncture and herbs (mainly Jing) tonics to increase jing and qi for health and longevity.
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When it comes to the actual practice, what I do is described in the WuZhenPian. Or, to be fair, what I do can be interpreted as being similar to that process. In reality, who knows.
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I do not lol
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Someone mentioned earlier that enlightenment can't be defined. I agree. It is like a taste that can't be described, it must be eaten. There has been much cogitation on this thread around the subject of enlightenment. The kind of knowledge used on this thread has pretty much all been head knowledge, which isn't enlightenment. That's 'knowing about stuff'. Enlightenment is What You Become. It no longer is a head trip, and it matters not whether you still have remnants of religions inside you. It is obtained by soul searching and getting those things out of the way that have been imprinted since childhood. You walk around with the 'good of all' being on your mind more than it ever way, because you realize that each and every person you see is 'god', is You! And it seems to deepen and deepen, as your connection with the Whole deepens to the point that your whole being becomes infused with it, more day by day. The post-Enlightenment life is a practiced in merging this Whole Love into your life, regardless of whether you're a social worker or a sewer worker. I'd love to hear @Dwai or @SilentThunder describe their post-E life, and how it has changed. Or anyone else with a post-E life. It seems to be that how you wear this thing is a learning process day by day. But it's no longer a book-learning thing. It's more of a 'how to love life' proposition. The odd thing is to walk around with this secret, this magnificent secret, that very few in the world know. Men have been put into rubber rooms for less.
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Then you should have a full understanding of Ming practices.
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You can probably search this site for boran kammatthana.
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I would be one of those lol
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There is at least one branch/school of TCM that was heavily influenced by what we tend to call neidan.
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I see. So what is Buddhist neidan then? And what are the great reforms?
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That is because after the great reforms that hit buddhism, these methods were made less publicly known.
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Interesting, I'm Buddhist but do not know what that is from a Buddhist point of view.
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I agree that the term is used in a wide variety of was, and the risk that we are talking about different things is rather large. I might add that I do not practice daoist neidan, I'm doing a buddhist alchemical practice.
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This was why I was trying to pin down the definition of neidan you were using. To be fair the goal of TCM isn't that, but as a TCM practitioner I tend to use it for beyond the scope of just medical treatment.
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Neidan is supposed to work on reversing the flow, to return to the pre-heaven "substances". As far as I know, TCM doesn't do that, but I would be delighted if you can prove me wrong.
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Thanks you so much, Gerard! I have finally realized that the 'buddhalands' spoken of in the Amakansaka and Lotus Sutras are none other than the individual universes.
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