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  2. when will human madness end?

    Bindi replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

    Clearly Jesus hadn’t attained much spiritual progress then, evidenced by his condemnation of the Pharisees.
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  4. For the Enlightened: A Question

    Mark Foote replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion

    "(the) thinkative mind and mental habits is usually what we take to be 'us'"... It were better… if the untaught manyfolk approached this body, child of the four great elements, as the self rather than the mind. Why so? Seen is it… how this body, child of the four great elements, persists for a year, persists for two years, persists for three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty years, persists for forty, for fifty years, persists for a hundred years and even longer. But this… that we call thought, that we call mind, that we call consciousness, that arises as one thing, ceases as another, whether by night or by day. (SN 12.61, tr. Pali Text Society vol II p 66) Gautama spoke in many lectures about his enlightenment, which took place in or after the fourth or the final concentration, depending on the lecture, but was really a matter of "profound knowledge" or "intuitive wisdom" (MN 70) , a kind of gnosis that followed his witness of "past habitations" and "future arisings". With his enlightenment, he said, the three cankers were no longer present in him, they were like palm trees that had been cut off at the root, never to grow again. The cankers: The three “cankers” were said to be three cravings: “craving for the life of sense”, “craving for becoming”, and “craving for not-becoming” (DN 22; PTS vol. ii p 340). When the cankers are “destroyed”, the roots of the craving for sense-pleasures, the roots of the craving “to continue, to survive, to be” (tr. “bhava”, Bhikkyu Sujato), and the roots of the craving not “to be” (the craving for the ignorance of being) are destroyed. (One Way or Another) Where the confusion comes in: Gautama’s advice was to go by the words of the teacher rather than any claim to authority, to compare the instructions of a teacher to the sermons Gautama himself had given and to the rules of the order that Gautama himself had laid down (DN 16 PTS vol. ii pp 133-136). Nevertheless, activity solely by virtue of the free location of consciousness, the hallmark of the fourth concentration, has been conveyed by demonstration in some branches of Buddhism for millennia. The transmission of a central part of the teaching through such conveyance, and the certification of that transmission by the presiding teacher, is regarded by some schools as the only guarantee of the authenticity of a teacher. The teachers so authenticated have in many cases disappointed their students, when circumstances revealed that the teacher’s cankers had not been completely destroyed. Furthermore, some schools appear to have certified transmission without the conveyance that has kept the tradition alive, perhaps for the sake of the continuation of the school. (ibid)

  5. when will human madness end?

    Apech replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

    Ok - I just like to lighten the mood occasionally - nothing personal.
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  7. Some people and some people at various stages need a 'bubble' around them . Its a fundamentals and basic principle in many systems of magical practice . One practices to actually form this 'bubble' . I would even go as far as to say it is , at first, an essential practice and it goes further than a magical practice visualization - it is actually the first principle of philosophy given out during the first knowledge lecture in the first initiation . Which is basically ; if you are learning to use your energies , how will you control them if you cant contain them ? ( and since I cant repeat the lecture here , I will outline the philosophical lesson into other words ) Consider the steam engine and its massive potential power that can be put to all sports of uses ... how will it work if the pressure is not contained in the first place ... the steam will just waft away as vapor . of course , I don't expect you to agree :Lairg ... or even respond . I put this here as its important for some people at this present time and for some peoples level of development .

  8. For the Enlightened: A Question

    old3bob replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion

    meaning of an incandescent or energy saving LED type?

  9. For the Enlightened: A Question

    Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion

    Urrrgha .... Ummm , no, you misunderstood yourself . You said : " the spirit/magical realm vs. the material, " I suggest removing the vs from that ^ not this new arrangement of 'physical vs mental ' . vs means 'against, opposed to , or in contrast to '. Spirit our magic should not work or be against the material . it should not oppose it but give depth meaning and insight into the material and although it can seem in contrast to it , for many it isn't ; for example a traditional Aboriginal believe ( before invasion of the nasty people ) was 'this IS heaven ' . No separation between spiritual and material , they interweave and flow into each other .

  10. when will human madness end?

    old3bob replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

    Btw mod's, using old3bob's name on the side (or as an aside) without his ok is not exactly kosher, even if he can take a joke or ribbing.

  11. when will human madness end?

    old3bob replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

    there can also be the case of or sign of spineless apathy or resultant naive appeasement...
  12. Should the clear simple list of answers to the opening question be put down yet ..... or do we need a much longer to and fro into obscurity first ?

  13. obsolete

    Nungali replied to Cobie's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion

    I don't see why .... as they are 'stored' as well , but probably don't need such a big 'box' . I was a juror once and we were presented with phone conversations and text records of the accused . I assumed he was already under suspicions and someone had applied to a judge for a 'phone tap ' . Nah, old school . They wait until you are caught and then go into the old records . That seems to suggest that every phone converse and text you ever made is in storage somewhere . But don't hold me to any of that ... I am a 'LoTech' . Its ALL on record Coby .... EVERTHING !
  14. if you are asking the questions, since you are asking the questions, then there is a part of you that is ready

  15. Objective Magic

    kakapo replied to cloud recluse's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion

    Some thoughts. If you have a system that can generate repeatable, objectively observable results, every time, then you have yourself a science and a technology, not magick. Real practices like this exist, but the amount of magick users that absolutely hate them and everything they are about amazes me. The amount of skepticism they selectively apply to these practices, but not their own amazes me. The amount of vitriol they spew. I don't understand people.

  16. So Long And Thanks For All The Fish

    kakapo replied to kakapo's topic in The Rabbit Hole

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkHSmDxX1t4
  17. I have posted before https://www.thedaobums.com/search/?&q=heart light&author=Lairg Feel free to ask about specific aspects
  18. Perhaps I should avoid dwelling any deeper, as I might not be ready yet, but I wonder: 1. What can one do to refine the heart? 2. would you mind providing me with an intellectual framework, in hope that it might dawn on me one day? Thank you.
  19. Logos is Greek for "word". You may recall "In the beginning was the Word" Do your own experiments. It is useful to find a competent observer for feedback
  21. Me thinks your roots are showing. Beware of not confusing your fantasies for reality.
  22. For most humans the emotions are more refined and aligned than the mental processes. Accordingly feeling uneasy about some action/relationship/direction is usually a sign that things need to be reassessed. That is complicated when the human has interfering entities and significant karma. Fortunately the higher subplanes of the heart are cosmic so that working with the light of the heart is usually reliable Most humans do not have enough control of their thoughts to rely upon mental analysis
  23. The human has functions beyond its species - as demonstrated by the geometric Tree of Life fitting on the human and on various continents. Since our god is a god of right relationship the human is expected to carry out that function as a direct impulse from that Logos. If a human loves itself from the heart then it is doing well. Humans that do not love themselves are facing away from the Logos
  24. Are there principles of cooperation with the macro, or does one has to go on gut?
  25. The each human format contains perhaps a trillion intelligences that more or less cooperate to produce an entity that functions in the local cosmos. A universe contains a vastly greater number of intelligences that need to be coordinated, refined, aligned and integrated so that Logos has a coherent body that it can use in relating to other universes and their Logoi The human is a microcosm so that a coherent/enlightened human naturally propagates that coherence into the local aspects of the universe If the human is incoherent the universe will instinctively protect itself from that contagion
  26. What is this; and why is it something to be avoided; and how does a person know if they are going down that path? Thank you.
  27. Thank you, could you elaborate a little on the concepts mentioned, please?
  28. In this universe our god (the Logos) is a god learning right relationship - but referred to by humans as a god of love. It is better to support the work of the universal Logos That may avoid having a bubble formed around us
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