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#17 blue eyed snake

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 03:17 AM

even though my teacher teaches a different style, i do recognize this.

 

i do not know how it ' works' but it feels as if this ball sort of 'pushes' into the channels that lodge in the physical body, thereby cleaning them up from old shit.

 

no intent needed, not advisable either i think, it works all by itself   :)


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:50 AM

Interesting - never heard of anything like that before (at least not in the context of Taiji and cultivation).

Can the ball be taken into the body, or does it stimulate the internal energy structure by being moved over the surface?


It is both within and without -- and I'm not speaking in parables here.

The lower dan tien is always connected to the taiji ball(s). The taiji ball moves energies along the meridians. Depending on the sets/forms we do.

This is about Damo and it's not right to discuss temple style on this thread. My apologies to the OP for distracting the discussion.


If you want to know more let's start another thread to discuss taiji ball work.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:25 AM

If you want to know more let's start another thread to discuss taiji ball work.

 

please do so


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:41 PM

 

From his essay MASTERY OF FORM 1 (THE SIT)…….
 
Within Daoist alchemical sitting practice we never force anything nor use the mind to assist in the process. Instead we establish the 'pyramid' shape within the body and allow this structure to guide the movement of Qi according to a key rule of Qi flow: Q will move to where there is space. In this way it.can be thought of as being like water. Water will flow to fill any space, and Qi moves in much the same manner if it is left to move of its own accord. 
 
(From Damo Mitchell, Daoist Reflections from Scholar Sage.

 

 

That's an interesting way of putting a 'rule of Qi flow' but I've always like the idea (I think by Dr. Yang) that Qi flows from higher to lower areas of pressure.  For example, if you raise you arms for a minute and then lower them, the Qi flows due to the pressure differential that was created but one could say that Qi was filling the space created in the movement.

 

Wonder if Damo has elsewhere  explained his Qi flow idea using different words or theory ? 


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 07:25 PM

That's an interesting way of putting a 'rule of Qi flow' but I've always like the idea (I think by Dr. Yang) that Qi flows from higher to lower areas of pressure.  For example, if you raise you arms for a minute and then lower them, the Qi flows due to the pressure differential that was created but one could say that Qi was filling the space created in the movement.

 

Wonder if Damo has elsewhere  explained his Qi flow idea using different words or theory ? 

 

I like this idea as well, Qi flows due to the pressure differential, I see it as having to build up in one channel before being able to break into the next.

 

I also really like the idea of the Qi ball that Dawi mentioned, I think this Qi ball develops naturally as well, and seems to want to rise and maybe extend outwards, a very creative force.


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 07:52 AM

If you want to know more let's start another thread to discuss taiji ball work.

Rich topic.  If you start such a thread, please post a link to it from here.  :)

 

Sifu Matsuo's version of qi sphere work is presented in Kuan Yin Magnetic Qigong.  Lots of info in that thread but it is a broad topic; there is still much to explore re: qi sphere (taiji ball) work.  I will say that getting into sphere work improved my qigong a *lot*, in *many* ways, for very little effort.  B)


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Posted 22 October 2016 - 08:35 AM

has anyone read

White Moon on the Mountain Peak:

by him ?



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Posted 22 October 2016 - 09:05 AM

Rich topic.  If you start such a thread, please post a link to it from here.  :)

 

 

 

http://www.thedaobum...e-1#entry713576


Edited by blue eyed snake, 22 October 2016 - 09:05 AM.

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 10:19 AM

has anyone read

White Moon on the Mountain Peak:

by him ?

 

Yep.


"Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign."  J. S. Mill

 

 


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Posted 24 October 2016 - 11:54 AM

has anyone read

White Moon on the Mountain Peak:

by him ?

 

I recently bought 3 D.Mitchell books:

1. Daoist Nei Gong

2. Daoist Reflections from Scholar Sage

3. White Moon...

 

.. and I'm going to read them in roughly that order.  :)  Just started.  If you are reading them, feel free to chip in w/ snippets n' thoughts here.  :)


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Posted 25 October 2016 - 03:15 PM

I recently bought 3 D.Mitchell books:

1. Daoist Nei Gong

2. Daoist Reflections from Scholar Sage

3. White Moon...

 

.. and I'm going to read them in roughly that order.  :)  Just started.  If you are reading them, feel free to chip in w/ snippets n' thoughts here.  :)

 

 

Read slowly, read again.....

 

In fact I put them back on my "to read" shelf after reading them. I am letting them ferment and digest bit by bit the second go round. 


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:03 AM

^ Good advice. I go back over the section on sung breathing in Daoist Nei Gong every so often, and get something new out of it every time. It's enhanced all of my meditative practices immeasurably.


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#29 Bruce Qi

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 10:41 AM

What did you think of White Moon on the Mountain Peak ?

is it possible to develop a deep practice from it ?



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Posted 27 October 2016 - 11:13 AM

Well, the whole point of Mitchell's curriculum, as I understand it, is that you start with neigong and with time you move to neidan. The White Moon is about neidan. So it is like a next step. If you think you are developed enough to take this step, at least the beginning of the book is in line with what Mitchell teaches in his introductory workshops on sitting practices - this is IME.

 

In general, ALL teachers who teach neidan express very strong opinion that neidan should not be attempted without live instructions.


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 02:23 AM

In general, ALL teachers who teach neidan express very strong opinion that neidan should not be attempted without live instructions.

 

 

 
I've always wondered on this point - Mitchell himself says that the training in his books should be attempted with a teacher, but then he goes and writes a detailed book obviously intended to be used as a practical manual for that exact same training. Seems a bit contradictory.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 05:16 AM

anyone practising from the books ? I bought the white moon book and really like it , nicely laid out in a practicable manner.

Gonna start going through the stages laid out and see where it takes me.






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