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  1. Blue Light

    That's fair enough, although if those are the dealbreakers for you, you're going to have a very hard time finding any system of qigong, meditation or energetic style practice with which you're comfortable. Which is fine I think mostly_empty summed it up pretty well, but my own thoughts on the matter are roughly: a.) So are a lot of things, some good, some bad. I don't see this as a factor either way. But if you're looking to fit into some conceptualization of "the mainstream" then yeah, Qigong probably isn't going to make that easier, and FP is admittedly a little more "out there" than a lot of systems. b.) If you read what Sifu Terry has posted in the FP thread over the years, most of it can be pieced together. Not all of it though, and if you're after an explanation which fits into the current Western scientific consensus, you'll be disappointed. c.) My experience (which is by no means extensive in the scheme of things) is that the phenomena you're describing about are the consequences of the deeper internal changes worked by the FP meditations. They're generally pleasant, and useful as indications that what is supposed to be happening is happening, but that's mostly it. For what it's worth, in roughly a year and change worth of regular FP practice (and more irregular practice before that), I've yet to experience any effects that haven't ultimately turned out to be beneficial, although some of them were uncomfortable or unnerving at the time I was first experiencing them. But yeah, if you're not up for some weird and "out there" experiences, you might want to look elsewhere
  2. Breathing Percentages

    I wouldn't stress about it too much at this stage. If you had to get the breathing exactly right from the very beginning, nobody would ever be able to do it. Just do your best, stop and restart if it feels off or you do something obviously way off the mark (skip/repeat a breath, forget a number, accidentally go for a different %, etc). A few things I've found that have helped a lot: sit and allow your breathing to steady for a minute or two before initiating the opening 3 breaths, try and keep your breathing stable (mine always wants to deepen as I move further into the breath sequence, which can get confusing), and most importantly, I find it much easier to measure the breath by taking into account the movement of my abdomen in and out instead of relying purely on timing it or measuring the flow of air in/out of my nostrils. Good luck.
  3. Blue Light

    I don't know if it's something that people "necessarily" experience, but with the combination of the "blue Qi" cultivated by the FP meditations (which is, as I understand it, essential to the effect of the meditations) and the dramatic effect the FP system has on your ability to perceive Qi in general (although some of the meditations seem to enhance this more than others), if it's something you find unsettling and want to avoid, then you may want to consider a different system of Qigong. In my experience, it's something that popped up pretty quickly. Actually it seemed to start out as more of a violet with a pinkish tinge, and then deepen to a blue over time - I'm not sure why, although I suspect it has to do with increasing levels of the Qi accumulating and/or the fact that I changed my practice to include a more balanced amount of the seated meditations instead of just the standing ones. At least one FP practitioner has said that it's never gone beyond the pink/violet for him, and that he also only practices the Long Form, so I suspect it's the latter and that the MSW meditations serve to "catalyse" the energy in some way (interestingly, Sifu Terry has said that the Long Form can replace the earlier standing meditations, but not the seated ones, which supports this theory imo, but you'd have to ask him). Based on what I've experienced and what others have said, I'd be surprised if you did a well rounded routine of the first 2 DVD's for 6 - 12 months or so and didn't at least start seeing lights behind the eyes during practice, blue visual tracers after training, general outlines of "light" around people and objects, etc. If you really dedicated yourself to the MSW meditations and especially MGAM, I suspect it would happen quite a bit faster. That said, my experience is also that it "does" mostly fade if you stop practising. Maybe there's a point of no return, but I doubt it's early enough that you couldn't stop after your first few times experiencing these phenomena if you decided you were uncomfortable with them. Personally I practised for 3 months the first time around, started experiencing some of these effects, then stopped for over 2 years. During those 2 years I didn't experience any specific FP visual phenomena or sensations of the FP Qi, although I did retain a slight perception of a "glow" around people and plants (Wei Qi field? Aura? Not sure). I'm not sure either way if this is attributable to the FP meditations, I was also doing a lot of Hermetic training at the time, which may have also contributed. Either way, it wasn't something that caused any issues and could be easily ignored if I had wanted to. I'd say you probably want to do some deep introspection about why these phenomena make you uncomfortable before proceeding with FP practice. Although I'd also say that you're going to have a hard time finding a system of Qigong or meditation which "doesn't" result in altered perceptions, energetic sensations and experiences further along that spectrum, if you take it far enough. You can't go swimming without getting wet, and if you go swimming in the ocean you're probably going to see some fish, you know? If you want purely physical health benefits that don't require any recourse to energetic/spiritual mechanics or conceptualisations, you might be better off finding a martial arts teacher or yoga teacher who takes a purely body-mechanics based approach. That's my 2c anyway, I do feel this is really something you should post in the FP thread where you can get some input from Sifu Terry.
  4. I think one major factor is that ZZ seems much harder to learn properly without the personal guidance of a teacher than moving or sitting practices. My experience is limited for precisely this reason, but I've found that it's effectiveness and comfort relies on having a teacher to first initially show you exactly how to stand so that the body can hold itself comfortably, and then regularly physically adjust your practice to account for when you lose your stance due to poor posture, muscular tension or other issues. A book can't tell you that you're leaning forward a couple cm too far, or grab your hip and swing it forward slightly so it aligns properly over your leg or put a hand on your shoulders and tell you to relax them because they're tight. Of course these things matter in moving and sitting practices as well, but there seems to be more margin for error and, especially in moving practice, a certain degree of self correction built in, whereas my (again, limited) experience is that a regular ZZ practice requires a lot more precision to yield any benefits, and is more likely to cause or enhance pre-existing structural problems without this kind of precise guidance.
  5. All you write in TDB ends up there

    I wonder if the poor government analysts found those old More Pie threads as frustrating as everybody here did?
  6. What are you listening to?

    Haven't been able to get this out of my head for the last 3 days. Brilliant stuff:
  7. Potent Systems

    Not to be pedantic, but have you spoken to Sifu Terry or Sifu Hearfield about this? Everything I've read and been told about the Doo family meditations is that not altering the breath sequences is the golden rule, let alone combining two of them into one meditation.
  8. I think if you ask around you'll find that most of the people who practice FP (at least the subset who post here on DB) aren't religious Daoist/Buddhists, but simply integrate concepts from the philosophical branches of those schools of thought into their worldview. And so far, I haven't found this to be a prerequisite in any way to FP practice, just a general trend amongst people who train in Qigong. At least one regular contributor to the FP thread, Ridingtheox, has mentioned that he is a Quaker, and he's I believe one of the more long term practitioners here. We discuss the issue briefly in the FP thread here: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/12639-flying-phoenix-chi-kung/?do=findComment&comment=783084 Where it might be tricky with FP specifically is that the oral history of the system is quite firm on the meditations being originally taught to a Daoist monk by an unspecified Goddess on a sacred Buddhist mountain. Given the benign nature of the meditations, I can't imagine that it would cause problems on that end, but you'd have to decide for yourself how comfortable you are, personally, practising meditations which are accounted to have come from a non-Christian spiritual source (and which at least partially tap into an "extra-mundane" source of Qi to induce their effects, as opposed to drawing in/circulating environmental and bodily energies like many systems of Qigong). We actually had an interesting discussion about this a few months ago, regarding spiritual experiences induced by FP practice and whether they were based on the history of the system or on the practitioner's pre-existing notions of the Divine, but never came to any firm conclusions. It might help if you post this in the FP thread directly or contact Sifu Terry via. PM/email and ask him about his experience in the matter - given how many people he's taught, it seems likely that a Catholic or two number among them. I hope you find the answer to your question
  9. Everyone post some favorite quotes!

    Not in any way pertinent to Daoism, I just happen to think it's one of the most beautiful pieces of writing I've come across in recent memory:
  10. Looks interesting - ordered a copy. Thanks for the heads up
  11. Best Jing restoring herbs ?

    This. Herbs are a case-by-case thing. A few years back I studied under a teacher who pushed He Shou Wu to all of his students as a supplement to the practices he was teaching, and quite a few had bad reactions. I personally stopped taking it after 3 or 4 doses because it would make me feel cramped up, exhausted and depressed. I mentioned this to my Taiji teacher a few months later and he said that it was "far too cold" for my energetic makeup.
  12. Sorry, I should have clarified - when I said seek out trained help, I didn't mean the Western doctor's you've already hit up. I tried that route too, and they were utterly useless. I meant something like a good TCM/Ayurvedic doctor, herbalist, Qigong healer, etc. Someone experienced with cultivation and working outside the materialist/reductionist paradigm of mainstream medicine. For example, one of the people I mentioned earlier who helped me enormously is Eric Isen, who Earl Grey mentioned. I'd highly recommend getting in touch with him and making an appointment, my health and my progress at getting my cultivation practice back on track have improved exponentially since I started working with him.
  13. I think I did a poor job of summarising what the book says, it's been over a year since I read White Moon. But I did flick through it on my phone quickly yesterday and came across discussion of "reversing the course" more than once. And it seems likely to me that stabilizing the jing and making it's conversion to Qi more efficient (ie. preserving jing by getting the same amount of Qi from less Jing) would be the first step towards cultivating/replenishing Jing. I know he speaks about cultivation and restoring acquired Jing, but I think the congenital Jing is the tricky part. But like I said, I'm definitely no expert. Of course it's just a book, so it's unlikely that the big ultra-secret teaching you seem to be seeking is going to be found there, but if you're looking for a good investigation of these subjects founded on practical experience, I think it'd be worth checking out. It's your money though
  14. With respect to the people posting suggestions in this thread, my advice would be to avoid a grab-bag approach of trying different exercises recommended from different sources on the internet. I was in a loosely similar situation (not in terms of symptoms, but in terms of experiencing chronic health issues after a negative experience occurred during cultivation type practices) several years ago, and I made posts like this on multiple forums, and received pages of well meaning advice, and gained very little from any of it. I only started making progress once I had in-depth consultations with a few different experts, explained my situation and my wider circumstances in-depth, and then followed their treatments and advice. People mean well, but I honestly don't think enough information can be conveyed on an internet forum to allow anyone to successfully evaluate what might be wrong with you, let alone suggest a proper course of treatment. Good luck.
  15. Have you read Damo Mitchell's books? He talks in depth about the relationship between jing/qi/shen, stabilizing the jing, increasing the efficiency of the jing > qi > shen conversion, and so forth. I wouldn't attempt to try and summarise his explanations personally, but I'd highly recommend checking them out if you're interested in the topic, especially Daoist Nei Gong and White Moon on the Mountain Peak. The latter in particular goes into a fair bit of depth on the subject of Jing > Qi conversion and the relationship between congenital/acquired jing/qi, since it's focused on the early/intermediate stages of Nei Dan.