Encephalon Posted 22 hours ago Just a thought experiment - who knows where it will go. If our species' superpower is creative imagination, and you were charged with the task of triggering an exponential increase in the collective imagination of the world, to imagine a better future for all, what would you do? What would your strategy be, your tactics, your daily choices? How do you imagine a positive future, or have we thrown in the towel? How do we resuscitate our imagination individually and collectively? I genuinely want to know your ideas because I'm constantly mulling over this issue. Thanks in advance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted 21 hours ago (edited) PEACE TO THE WORLD In the Way of the Ancients: if I want to bring peace to the world, then I first must order my own country; if I want to order my country, then I first must unify my own family; if I want to unify my family, then I first must heal myself; if I want to heal myself, then I first must mend my heart; if I want to mend my heart, then I first must sort my thoughts; if I want to sort my thoughts, then I first must gain awareness of them; gaining awareness lies in coming to terms with being a soul in an animal body. A soul in an animal body, come to terms with, only after that may awareness be gained; awareness gained, only after that may my thoughts be sorted; thoughts sorted, only after that may my heart be mended; heart mended, only after that may I be healed; myself healed, only after that may my family be unified; my family unified; only after that may my country be ordered; my country ordered, only after that may the world be set at peace. ~~~ (part of 大學 The Great Learning, c. 5th cent. B.C. Ancient China; pictures Public Domain Pictures, translation by me) Edited 16 hours ago by Cobie 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lala Nila Posted 21 hours ago you have to do it without attachment to outcome, ego, fear, desire. Has to be done without resistance and illusion, with pure all encompassing love and surrender. I'm still working on ironing out all the details. Though Cobie's quote is a good hint Gold to Cobie for that quote 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 18 hours ago 4 hours ago, Encephalon said: you were charged with the task of triggering an exponential increase in the collective imagination of the world, to imagine a better future for all, what would you do? I would start by considering the qualities of the collective imagination and whether adverse influences needed resolution Also "for all" may include entities that should not be present at this stage of planetary process Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surya Posted 18 hours ago Absolutely wonderful thread idea, @Encephalon. I think it is that very imagination you refer to that is our superpower, and gives us the ability to inspire, tell such wonderful stories and beauty. But we are told to reject anything that is not very… physical and materialistic in nature, I feel. At times we are even told not to trust our own eyes and judgement. Its like your opinion is not valid unless you have a tittle before your name, a white coat or write for some «legitimate» newspaper. So I think I would attempt to use that very imagination to try to inspire and reignite that belief in oneself and inner fire we all carry. How exactly, I am not sure right now, but I feel like people and situations are being presented to me in a way that consistently sharpens these skills. Also, I want to write more, and expose myself to a diverse sets of worldviews and people. As well as following this thread 😁 We will figure it out, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surya Posted 18 hours ago @Nungali sent me this years ago, still treasure it: 💛🤍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bradley Posted 18 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Surya said: @Nungali sent me this years ago, still treasure it: Thats Portland for ya. I miss Portland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenn Posted 16 hours ago This is an interesting topic and one that is very relevant to what I have been exploring in my life and practice right now. As much as it saddens me as a recovering chronic daydreamer who probably would not have made it in life without being able to spend most of my formative (and later) years lost to imagination, I think unchecked imagination is actually at the heart of a lot of personal and societal problems. Illusion is a huge problem, and our ability to imagine is at the root of illusion. Without an ability to imagine, you can't fall to illusion, it's just not possible. Now from a cultivation standpoint, looking at what you tend to dream and day dream about is an excellent window into the psyche and where you have unresolved issues. We often daydream for comfort / self-soothing so what we see is often a reflection of what we need or feel is missing. For example, all my daydreams involve me doing something "impressive" and always with other various other people real/imagined/from media that I respect present and helping. I still struggle with my ego, needing to be SEEN, and to be GREAT. It is helpful to know where my issues are, but those daydreams just soothe things I feel I lack, rather than dealing with the root of why I feel that way in the first place. I guess if I were charged with supercharging the collective imagination of the world I would wait for a time when society was less lost to illusion and better equipped to handle the responsibility of enhanced imagination. Don't get me wrong, I prize my imagination over almost everything, but I am also in the process of recognizing that to really move forward in my journey I probably have to let it go. And I don't say that lightly. In my life I spent time homeless living in a car that didn't run with literally not a single person who would even notice if I died, and would I go back to that in a heart beat vs giving up my imagination, my lifeline, but it is becoming clearer and clearer that it is also what is holding me back. And much to my fortune and dismay, the universe has assisted this process by making my imagination duller and less enticing, despite how desperate that still makes me feel. Oh well, one day I will get there. Hopefully someday I will find a healthy balance of creativity and reality. IMO our issue isn't creativity or lack of solutions/imagination, we already have the means and technology to end most of our problems, world hunger, stop climate change, build a society of equality and kindness, end most diseases - we just choose not to. At its root, for various reasons, we don't WANT to do the things it takes to fix our problems. I mean we can put a person on the moon and carry all the worlds knowledge in our pocket, and we yet can't figure out how to see people who look different than us truly as equals. I mean, guess there is no money in being kind, but geez. We say we need to care for the planet before it is too late, but then we build huge data centers and servers for crypto and AI that are quickly becoming the most resource draining and damaging activities over even manufacturing, oil production and shipping, and neither of those are necessary for our survival or ability to thrive as a species or as individuals. IMO we don't need more ideas or creativity, we need more authenticity, we need to be less caught up in illusion, we need to learn how to face and accept the hard things about ourselves and reality that we would rather destroy ourselves than admit exists. We need to let go of "needing" to be the best or most important, and instead make space for everyone else around us to be just as great. We need to recognize that we already have everything and we are squandering it by thinking we need more and more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, Jenn said: … face and accept the hard things about ourselves … Yes. That’s the root. Edited 16 hours ago by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanity Check Posted 12 hours ago If the brain is a muscle. It only needs to be exercised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 12 hours ago It may be of use to distinguish the brain from the mind. For example, awaking (returning to the body) from a dream usually results in very little memory of the dream. Is the dream in the mind and the physical memory in the brain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sanity Check said: If the brain is a muscle. It only needs to be exercised. But you know the brain isnt a muscle ..... ergo ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Lairg said: It may be of use to distinguish the brain from the mind. Of use ? I think the distinction is of supreme importance . The brain is like a flock of birds , it just supplies the hardware for the mind to operate 'down on ' this polarity . The mind is that multi dimensional field that allows the 'bird / brains' work like this ; Quote For example, awaking (returning to the body) from a dream usually results in very little memory of the dream. Is the dream in the mind and the physical memory in the brain? The dream is in the brain and the mind . The physical memory is in the body ... as the genetic memory is in the genes ... the ancient physical memory is in the reptilian brain - or hind brain , down into the brain stem . The higher functions are 'blank memory' circuits , yet to be programmed , or in some cases being programmed . - see Exo-psycholgy - the 8 circuit brain . Edited 9 hours ago by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanity Check Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Nungali said: But you know the brain isnt a muscle ..... ergo ? It strengthens when exercised. Just like muscles do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites