old3bob Posted 10 hours ago (edited) .triple post and deletion, why? Edited 10 hours ago by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 10 hours ago (edited) boy oh boy the little bear sure got big, but is still playful! Edited 10 hours ago by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, old3bob said: Darn those little gray guys! Btw my conditioning my never get used to women with real hairy armpits although in some countries it is normal... How in the world we got this into the OP? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 8 hours ago 21 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: How in the world we got this into the OP? subconscious gremlins? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, Taomeow said: We are the only hairless primates for the same reason we have bred the Sphinx cats. When I first got into running, I read a great book called Born to Run by Christopher McDougall. One assertion the book made is that we are hairless due to natural selection. Our lack of hair and ability to sweat gives us a distinct advantage in hunting over hairy, four legged animals that are much faster. They can run faster but can only lower their temperature through panting so they are forced to periodically stop and rest or they overheat. Humans, on the other hand, can lower temperature through sweating so it is possible for us to keep running for hours, even days, without stopping. As long as we can keep the faster animal in our sight, we will eventually catch them. McDougall postulates this is one reason we have come to dominate other species. The book goes into some interesting territory, including the Raramuri people of Mexico who are amazing runners. One just won an ultra-marathon, in fact, running in traditional sandals and a long skirt with no formal training. Before running the ultra, she walked 14 hours just to get there. https://www.onlygoodnewsdaily.com/post/indigenous-runner-wins-canyon-ultramarathon 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 8 hours ago (edited) i also read something along those lines; I believe it was someplace in Mexico where their runners are legend and only have very basic sandals to run in. Edited 8 hours ago by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 8 hours ago 21 hours ago, Taomeow said: So I stay away for a month and come back to the tail end of the thread about the demise of TDB morph into bears and Egyptian magic. yeah ... dude posts we are finished . Oh really ? .... 16,000 views so far . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 8 hours ago 18 hours ago, Jenn said: If only we could find a panel of scientists and a video camera to film those bears DOING magic. Oh, and the bears will need to be naked to make sure they aren't faking anything. Although if memory serves we would also need to spend the next 10 pages of comments discussing which scientists, and how naked, which seems excessive. Excessive nakidity is not permitted . personally , I only go half naked .... ( but really I am actually naked under all my clothes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 8 hours ago 5 hours ago, Apech said: Alien chicken. Thats you in old age ..... baldy . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 8 hours ago 13 minutes ago, old3bob said: i also read something along those lines; I believe it was someplace in Mexico where their runners are legend and only have very basic sandals to run in. I never thought of that ! I could have just got some Mexican sandals instead of this rowboat ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surya Posted 8 hours ago Maybe not the kissing part yet, but the rest 🤍💛 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 7 hours ago Spoiler a slight diversion .... My world is even wackier than normal ... what a strange life . I mentioned a few times that it was approaching and now its started Lovefest ! The people that run lovefest have hired our festival site again . I said I would not help them , after last time . .. and other issues . But what I did put my hand up for was to help the guy that is sorta the middle man between them and the local indigenous who are attending to do their cultural stuff . I have experience in this field and I know what to expect ! Last year it was disgraceful ... the lack of consideration that they showed to the indigenous . And , my God was I right ! First, this guy that is going to organise what they need and their facilities makes a list with me and then goes off on a one month vipassana . WTF ? Its all set up and officially starts sometime this morning ( which I am avoiding ) ,,, the flashy big modern architectural tents , all shiny new and white , the sound system, the deco , all the different little things set up ... a dance floor etc etc . What do the indigenous get ? no facilities . This guy that went off meditating organised to borrow a marquee tent . It was filthy and moldy , I spent hours scrubbing it by hand on my front lawn , all laid out . Some are infirm and were worried about climbing the wooden stairs up to the building on top of the toilet bins . Right , so I had to make a ground level toilet and room and wash house ( all from bamboo and with a roof in case it rained .) Everything in there I had to get together ; the tables chairs , tea and coffee set up , soft furnishings ( to cover the stained walls ... seriously, I even used some of my own bed sheets ! ) and a bamboo outdoor camp kitchen , bench sink etc they spent two days arguing with them over the initial fire 'opening ceremony ' ! OMG three meetings over two days arguing about lighting a fire ! I avoided all that . But apparently the festival opens tonight with the big hippy style fire lighting and ego parade ceremony and a separate fire ceremony opening the next day up the other end of the site for the indigenous ... One old Uncle slept on a lounge ( in the chill room set up I made in one corner of the tent ) thats too small with his legs off the edge , he is half cripple . '' MY God ! Why did you not tell me , I made that lounge myself specifically so it can convert to a bed and has a fold out mattress ! '' ! meanwhile the best spots have private 'glamping' tents set up for rent . Then last night I see them setting up a tarpaulin (in a ditch ) for another elderly respected Auntie . Jeeze ! I got a nice bell tent for her I borrowed but I was told it was not needed ! One of my first jobs to set that up today . Thats just a scratch on the surface ...... I have had this a few times , having to REA:LY step up to help the indigenous .. in a situation where the organisation wants them there and says they support them . We still got a loooooong way to go Oh well ... sun is up now,my coffee is finished .... off I go to see what surprises await me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 6 hours ago (edited) being more or less forced to be a good Samaritan is nuts....when doing right is really on everyone! Edited 6 hours ago by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, steve said: When I first got into running, I read a great book called Born to Run by Christopher McDougall. One assertion the book made is that we are hairless due to natural selection. Our lack of hair and ability to sweat gives us a distinct advantage in hunting over hairy, four legged animals that are much faster. They can run faster but can only lower their temperature through panting so they are forced to periodically stop and rest or they overheat. Humans, on the other hand, can lower temperature through sweating so it is possible for us to keep running for hours, even days, without stopping. As long as we can keep the faster animal in our sight, we will eventually catch them. McDougall postulates this is one reason we have come to dominate other species. The book goes into some interesting territory, including the Raramuri people of Mexico who are amazing runners. One just won an ultra-marathon, in fact, running in traditional sandals and a long skirt with no formal training. Before running the ultra, she walked 14 hours just to get there. https://www.onlygoodnewsdaily.com/post/indigenous-runner-wins-canyon-ultramarathon I've read that book and liked it a lot -- the parts where McDougall sticks to observed facts that is, not so sure about his evolutionary theories. (We spent a good deal of our evolutionary history -- the vast majority of the past 400 000 years -- in the ice age conditions, so overheating from running may not have been as much of a consideration from the standpoint of evolution... freezing to death was a bigger concern...) There's another theory I like more -- the aquatic ape (Desmond Morris in his book by the same title goes into some of the details). But based on the evidence from genetics, fetal development, history (especially the history of the "discovery" of sedentary agriculture all over the planet at once, in places that could have no contact with each other) and so on, I tend to consider, strongly, the possibility that we are a designer species, genetically modified toward goals unknown to us and quite seriously damaged by the intervention (like all GM organisms are). However, that post of mine was not a serious foray into the subject. I just pity those cats who look like alien chickens... reminds me of Plato's definition of a human as a "featherless biped." (Featherless rather than furless because bipeds -- e.g. chickens -- tend to have feathers rather than fur.) And I miss my tail. Edited 6 hours ago by Taomeow 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 6 hours ago never saw the play, "cats" but from photos it looks like it was fun...and many they had their tails. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Born to Run made such a big splash that it´s now spawned professional detractors. Health guru Mark Sisson recently came out his latest cheekily named tome, Born to Walk, in which he argues that walking, not running, is the locomotive motion of choice. Surely "Born to Crawl" can´t be far behind. Edited 5 hours ago by liminal_luke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 58 minutes ago, liminal_luke said: Born to Run made such a big splash that it´s now spawned professional detractors. Health guru Mark Sisson recently came out his latest cheekily named tome, Born to Walk, in which he argues that walking, not running, is the locomotive motion of choice. Surely "Born to Crawl" can´t be far behind. We were born to brachiate. I don't know how well-known this term is (when I first heard it in my teens someone explained it to me) so I'll define it in case it isn't -- to engage for extended periods of time in locomotion in the trees. Like all primates, we are built like brachiators, but we hardly ever climb trees anymore, let alone sleep in the trees or jump from branch to branch and from tree to tree as a means of getting from point A to point B. (I've seen forests where it would have been quite feasible and probably more efficient than any other way of moving through them, but those are almost nonexistent in most parts now -- whereas once upon a time the whole planet was forested.) Some folks in the Ancestral Movement community do this as part of their training and occasionally get very convincing and very impressive. Parkour fans do this in urban settings, but the ability harks back to the primeval forest... Edited 4 hours ago by Taomeow 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted 4 hours ago TDB has always had good music. And those that were lucky enough to stumble onto the right post at the right time can possibly fly. Once the NSA started archiving every keystroke, those posts ceased. If not fly like a bird, at least swing from tree to tree like certain primates Or hop mountain to mountain, whatever seems useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Taomeow said: However, that post of mine was not a serious foray into the subject. I just pity those cats who look like alien chickens... Understood, me either. I once took some cooking lessons. The chef's dogs were Mexican Hairless... the Xoloitzcuintle Oy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites