What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light

[Surya]

 

[Lairg]

In this universe our god (the Logos) is a god learning right relationship - but referred to by humans as a god of love. 

 

It is better to support the work of the universal Logos

 

That may avoid having a bubble formed around us

 

 

[Surya]

1 minute ago, Lairg said:

In this universe our god (the Logos) is a god learning right relationship - but referred to by humans as a god of love. 

 

It is better to support the work of the universal Logos

 

That may avoid having a bubble formed around us

 

 

Thank you, could you elaborate a little on the concepts mentioned, please?

[BigSkyDiamond]

5 minutes ago, Lairg said:

That may avoid having a bubble formed around us

 

What is this; and why is it something to be avoided;  and how does a person know if they are going down that path?

Thank you.

[Lairg]

The each human format contains perhaps a trillion intelligences that more or less cooperate to produce an entity that functions in the local cosmos.

 

A universe contains a vastly greater number of intelligences that need to be coordinated, refined, aligned and integrated so that Logos has a coherent body that it can use in relating to other universes and their Logoi

 

The human is a microcosm so that a coherent/enlightened human naturally propagates that coherence into the local aspects of the universe

 

If the human is incoherent the universe will instinctively protect itself from that contagion

 

  

Edited yesterday at 09:53 PM by Lairg

[Surya]

3 minutes ago, Lairg said:

If the human is incoherent the universe will instinctively protect itself from that contagion

Are there principles of cooperation with the macro, or does one has to go on gut?

[Lairg]

1 minute ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

What is this; and why is it something to be avoided;  and how does a person know if they are going down that path?

 

The human has functions beyond its species - as demonstrated by the geometric Tree of Life fitting on the human and on various continents.

 

Since our god is a god of right relationship the human is expected to carry out that function as a direct impulse from that Logos.

 

If a human loves itself from the heart then it is doing well.

 

Humans that do not love themselves are facing away from the Logos 

[Lairg]

2 minutes ago, Surya said:

Are there principles of cooperation with the macro, or does one has to go on gut?

 

 

For most humans the emotions are more refined and aligned than the mental processes.  Accordingly feeling uneasy about some action/relationship/direction is usually a sign that things need to be reassessed.

 

That is complicated when the human has interfering entities and significant karma.

 

Fortunately the higher subplanes of the heart are cosmic so that working with the light of the heart is usually reliable

 

Most humans do not have enough control of their thoughts to  rely upon mental analysis

 

 

[Cobie]

 

34 minutes ago, Lairg said:

… our god (the Logos) …

 Me thinks your roots are showing.   Beware of not confusing your fantasies for reality. 
 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:20 PM by Cobie

[Cobie]

Edited 23 hours ago by Cobie

[Lairg]

2 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Beware of not confusing your fantasies for reality.

 

Logos is Greek for "word".  You may recall "In the beginning was the Word"

 

Do your own experiments.  It is useful to find a competent observer for feedback

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:09 PM by Lairg

[Surya]

4 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 

 

For most humans the emotions are more refined and aligned than the mental processes.  Accordingly feeling uneasy about some action/relationship/direction is usually a sign that things need to be reassessed.

 

That is complicated when the human has interfering entities and significant karma.

 

Fortunately the higher subplanes of the heart are cosmic so that working with the light of the heart is usually reliable

 

Most humans do not have enough control of their thoughts to  rely upon mental analysis

 

 

Perhaps I should avoid dwelling any deeper, as I might not be ready yet, but I wonder:

1. What can one do to refine the heart?

2. would you mind providing me with an intellectual framework, in hope that it might dawn on me one day?

 

Thank you.

[Lairg]

I have posted before

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/search/?&q=heart light&author=Lairg

 

Feel free to ask about specific aspects

 

Edited yesterday at 10:13 PM by Lairg

[BigSkyDiamond]

30 minutes ago, Surya said:

as I might not be ready yet, but I wonder:

 

if you are asking the questions, since you are asking the questions, then there is a part of you that is ready

 

Edited 23 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[Nungali]

Should the clear simple list of answers  to the opening question be put down yet ..... or do we need a much longer to and fro into obscurity   first ? 

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

In this universe our god (the Logos) is a god learning right relationship - but referred to by humans as a god of love. 

 

It is better to support the work of the universal Logos

 

That may avoid having a bubble formed around us

 

 

 

Some people   and some people at various stages  need a 'bubble' around them . 

 

Its a fundamentals and basic principle in many systems of magical practice .   One practices to actually form this 'bubble' . 

 

I would even go as far as to say it is , at first, an essential practice   and it goes further than a magical practice visualization -  it is actually the first principle of philosophy given out during the first knowledge lecture in the first initiation . 

 

Which is basically ;  if you are learning to use your energies , how will you control them if you cant contain them ? 

 

( and since I cant repeat the lecture here , I will outline the philosophical lesson into other words ) 

 

Consider the steam engine and its massive potential power that can be put to all sports of uses ... how will it work if  the pressure is not contained  in the first place  ... the steam will just waft away as vapor . 

 

of course , I don't expect you to agree :Lairg ... or even respond . 

 

I put this here as its important for some people  at this present time and for some peoples level of development . 

[Cobie]

 

19 hours ago, Nungali said:

.... or do we need a much longer to and fro into obscurity   first ? 

 

 there wouldn’t be much traffic on the forum otherwise. 
 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Cobie

[Cobie]

@Apech how come there’s a laughing sockpuppet? I thought he was banned?

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Cobie

[Apech]

21 minutes ago, Cobie said:

@Apech how come there’s a laughing sockpuppet? I thought he was banned?

 

Perhaps at the end of the day we are all sock puppets of the One.

 

[liminal_luke]

Actions that bring us closer to the light...

 

• gardening
• looking at the ocean
• walking (extra points if done in nature)
• socializing with friends
• hugs
• good books, good art, good music
• home cooking 
• finally cleaning out the garage
• pizza (OK, maybe not but this is my bias)

Actions that might or might not bring us closer to the light...

• posting on Daobums

[Apech]

32 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

Actions that bring us closer to the light...

 

• gardening
• looking at the ocean
• walking (extra points if done in nature)
• socializing with friends
• hugs
• good books, good art, good music
• home cooking 
• finally cleaning out the garage
• pizza (OK, maybe not but this is my bias)

Actions that might or might not bring us closer to the light...

• posting on Daobums

Leave the garage for another day!

[Taomeow]

Chapter 24 of the I Ching (as used by Syd Barrett in the great song of the same name based on it nearly verbatim):

"The seven is the number of the young light,

it forms when darkness is increased by one."   

 

Taoist dialectic: extreme yin turns into yang, and vice versa.  Of course those who are not familiar with this inevitable cosmic scale dynamic process that is followed by all of the "ten thousand things" will always try to increase light by taking it all the way to its ridiculous, caricature level extremes.  Whence it will flip into darkness -- inevitably.  In social movements and in "spiritual" pursuits alike it's especially obvious -- the best, most enlightened ideas, trends, intentions inevitably flip into their darkest opposites.  (And, less obviously, vice versa.   And slower.  Yin is slower...  yang is always in a rush.  That's why light flips into darkness more readily than vice versa.)  

 

So, the sensible way to increase light without going overboard is by increasing the nourishing, nurturing dark yin which we all come from (remember the womb?) and return to.

A good night's sleep

A dark retreat, or at least meditation with your eyes closed, in a dark room

Black sesame seeds, blackberries, bilberries (nourish the retina and literally make it more receptive to light, improving night vision while protecting from the irritating effects of excessive illumination)

A screens/electronics fast -- limiting one's exposure to all those oh so bright, oh so much light devices that, predictably, darken the soul.

And so on.  Look for where yin is deficient and increase; look for where yang is excessive and decrease.  This is a yang-skewed civilization, in most situations you will find you need less light, not more.  And if you do find you need more light, go for the mellow kind -- sunset, sunrise...