What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light

[Taomeow]

5 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

 

Great point about the all-too-often forgotten yin side and the importance of darkness. I take it on faith that the word "enlightenment" refers to a real phenomenon, but I´ve never much liked the word -- or the endless fractious discussions that spring up around it -- perhaps because the emphasis on light feels so one sided to me.  In a similar vein, what´s with our cultural overemphasis with going up?  Seems to me it´s just as important to go down.  Like yin and yang, I think one begets the other.  If you wanna go up ya gotta go down; wanna go to the light, find the darkness.

 

Very true. 

 

Also...  In taiji, we always go slightly back before any move forward -- it sort of helps gain the correct vector, along with "stitching together" the move forward with the previous one --

which was also forward so if you "stitch" forward to forward you can't get a seamless move! 

 

And after a turn to the left, a turn to the right follows, and then if you still need to keep going to the left you go slightly to the right first.  And of course opening and closing alternate -- opening is akin to light/yang/expansion, closing, to dark/yin/contraction...  and they interchange continuously.  (One hallmark of bad taiji is when they don't, and the practitioner remains "too open" or "too closed" without minding this rhythm.)  Sorry...  couldn't resist a taiji example -- "everything" philosophy is therein, it so happens that all questions are answered there...  including those one hasn't thought of asking.  

[Nungali]

An action that takes us away from the light ;  

 

Constructing   'migrant cages ' 

 

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

non-duality goes beyond both light and dark.

it is before any polarity.

 

polarized thinking is  unbalanced, just as mood swings are unbalanced.

black and white thinking is problematic.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:35 AM by BigSkyDiamond

[old3bob]

12 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

non-duality goes beyond both light and dark.

it is before any polarity.

 

polarized thinking is  unbalanced, just as mood swings are unbalanced.

black and white thinking is problematic.

 

 

duality has a valid place in the grand scheme,  I'd say the unmanifest is better left to the unmanifest.

[stirling]

Some of the posts on this thread are pretty thinly veiled references. If it continues we'll be locking this thread.

 

Deep thanks to those of you who are refraining.  - Mods

[Cobie]

Brings closer to the light:   無為 (wu2 wei2) not stage-acting (i.e. being myself, which is equal to being one with the Dao).

Takes away from the light:    為 (wei2)                 stage-acting (i.e. going against myself e.g. to be socially acceptable).

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Cobie

[Sherman Krebbs]

Turn off your computer and phone, go outside, and enjoy the sunshine. 

[BigSkyDiamond]

8 hours ago, old3bob said:

duality has a valid place in the grand scheme,  I'd say the unmanifest is better left to the unmanifest.

 

polarity thinking, polarized thinking in daily life is not intrinsic nor is it inherent.  it is a choice.  and it is problematic.  Humans in daily life can choose to not engage in polarized thinking.  Polarized thinking is a cognitive distortion.

 

"Cognitive distortions are ways that we distort reality in our thoughts, making it out to be worse than it needs to be or truly is. Polarized thinking limits our perspectives, causes unnecessary stress, and hinders personal growth."

 

source, article "Thinking in Extremes: A Guide to Overcoming Polarized Thinking"

 

Edited 21 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[Cobie]

(Google) A single vocal cord may struggle to produce the necessary vibrations for certain notes, pitches, and vocal styles, making singing more difficult.  Νana Mouskouri has a congenital deformity, causing her to have only one vocal cord that works. 
 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Cobie

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, Cobie said:

(Google) A single vocal cord may struggle to produce the necessary vibrations for certain notes, pitches, and vocal styles, making singing more difficult.  Νana Mouskouri has a congenital deformity, causing her to have only one vocal cord that works. 
 

 

 

Are you saying  Nana cant sing certain notes pitches and styles  and finds sinigning difficult ?   I thought she was renown for being a good singer ?  

 

Now, we all have vocal cords and  a single windpipe  . but some birds have the division in the windpipe , from the two lungs  a little further up , as if they had two windpipes ,  result     ;

 

 

 

 

- birdsong brings us closer to the light . 

[old3bob]

2 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

polarity thinking, polarized thinking in daily life is not intrinsic nor is it inherent.  it is a choice.  and it is problematic.  Humans in daily life can choose to not engage in polarized thinking.  Polarized thinking is a cognitive distortion.

 

"Cognitive distortions are ways that we distort reality in our thoughts, making it out to be worse than it needs to be or truly is. Polarized thinking limits our perspectives, causes unnecessary stress, and hinders personal growth."

 

source, article "Thinking in Extremes: A Guide to Overcoming Polarized Thinking"

 

 

Jesus Christ....

[old3bob]

 

are these guys common?

 

[old3bob]

7 hours ago, stirling said:

Some of the posts on this thread are pretty thinly veiled references. If it continues we'll be locking this thread.

 

Deep thanks to those of you who are refraining.  - Mods

 

but true which should count there?

[Nungali]

27 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

are these guys common?

 

 

Very common ... well, around my place  ... and most places .   I had a pet one once, found a little fledgling on the road side  and raised him up until he could fly off .   A couple years back they hollowed out a termite nest up in a tree  right by front door and bought up two babies there .  I have at least one resident one ( but sometimes they gather to  welcome or farewell the daily sun in a chorus  .  He usually sits on a branch of the bottle tree outside my kitchen window .   When its cold he gets his 'beenie'  on 

 

 

When I put food out for the other birds he often sits watching , aloof an uninvolved .  Except for two days back , I decided to make Persian roast duck breasts  ( with  orange and pomegranate glaze     ) the duck breasts were over fatty so I sliced it off around the edges , making long fatty strips  and put them on the tree stump .... 'I'll have some of that !  "  - other birds didn't stand a chance , its a large bird and has a BIG beak  ... as the song says    " Kookaburra , king of the bush is he ." 

 

 

[Nungali]

47 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

Jesus Christ....

 

Interesting choice of words , since polarized means  ' to restrict the vibrations of a transverse wave, (especially light) wholly or partially to one direction .  

 

So polarized thought would seem to be more like   unity than duality . 

 

To have duality in thought means being able to see   both sides of the issue .      

 

 

[Nungali]

40 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

but true which should count there?

 

I'm confused by this too   ... ' thinly veiled references '  are against the rules or something ?   Maybe if some references are veering towards things NOT ALLOWED   those things should be reminded ;   like " this is veering towards insults ... or veering towards current events, or politics ' .... but a general warning about 'thinly veiled references  '   .....  

 

is it applying to you .... to me .... to someone else  ?    Some here seem to know . 

 

Or maybe it's because 'veiling '   obscures the light  ?    

[Apech]

11 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

I'm confused by this too   ... ' thinly veiled references '  are against the rules or something ?   Maybe if some references are veering towards things NOT ALLOWED   those things should be reminded ;   like " this is veering towards insults ... or veering towards current events, or politics ' .... but a general warning about 'thinly veiled references  '   .....  

 

is it applying to you .... to me .... to someone else  ?    Some here seem to know . 

 

Or maybe it's because 'veiling '   obscures the light  ?    

Playing the hatchling, my friend?

[old3bob]

 

hmm, you guys look pretty hip. (and we can hear your voices which are not very thinly veiled....)

[old3bob]

 

Btw. no one is forcing me to read someone else's posts or preventing me from putting them on ignore, so why the heavy handed censorship here by mods when it comes to members speaking truth to corrupted power which is an important part of brass-tacks "spirituality"?

 

Edited 2 hours ago by old3bob

[Cobie]

 

17 hours ago, Nungali said:

Are you saying  Nana cant sing certain notes pitches and styles  and finds sinigning difficult ?  

 

No, not at all. Sorry, my post was a bit obscure. I meant to express my amazement, wonky instrument but imo  delightful (full of the light) sound.

 

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

there is greater clarity, when "opinion" is not conflataed with "truth"

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BigSkyDiamond

[Apech]

1 hour ago, old3bob said:

 

Btw. no one is forcing me to read someone else's posts or preventing me from putting them on ignore, so why the heavy handed censorship here by mods when it comes to members speaking truth to corrupted power which is an important part of brass-tacks "spirituality"?

 

‘heavy handed’?  Really?

[stirling]

1 hour ago, old3bob said:

Btw. no one is forcing me to read someone else's posts or preventing me from putting them on ignore, so why the heavy handed censorship here by mods when it comes to members speaking truth to corrupted power which is an important part of brass-tacks "spirituality"?

 

Yeah... really "heavy handed censorship"? Do you even realize how many chances we Mods here have given you because we all kinda enjoy your crusty grumpiness? The way that you repay us is to keep pushing the edge and creating more unnecessary work for us. You are out of chances. Next time it's points and a time out as far as I am concerned.

 

There is nothing in the board rules that supports violating them because your "truth" is more important than they are. This is not a platform for free speech. 

[Cobie]

 

22 minutes ago, stirling said:

… free speech. 

Imo Every system needs to set boundaries

(that’s what I learned from the Original Dao forum).

 

 

Edited 15 minutes ago by Cobie

[BigSkyDiamond]

9 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Imo Every system needs to set boundaries

 

yes, and they are set is for the harmony of the group, for the health, peace, and well-being of the community

also known as "plays well with others"

 

Edited 7 minutes ago by BigSkyDiamond