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old3bob Posted May 8 (edited) "The phrase "The Tao gave birth to One" translates to "Tao, in its ultimate, undifferentiated state, is the source from which all things, including the concept of 'One,' emerge". It's the first step in the Tao Te Ching's description of the universe's formation, where Tao (the Way or Path) is the origin of all things." I'll go with this for now, alluding to the unmanifest manifesting in the sense of the "One"... thus connected but not the same for the One can be talked about (or named) but not the unmanifest other than being pointed towards. Edited May 8 by old3bob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Nungali Posted May 8 (edited) 14 hours ago, old3bob said: besides created try emanated, btw if Tao gave "birth to the One" what is the One? I'd say every-thing is under the One from the first to the last... That singularity that 'emanated ' before the big bang but after ..... whatever came before it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_singularity Before ? Aside from being termed Dao ; 2. Models and Theories about What Came Before: Quantum Foam/Multiverse: Some models suggest a pre-Big Bang state of "quantum foam" or a multiverse where our universe is just one of many. Cyclical Universe: Another idea is a cyclical universe, where the Big Bang might be the result of a previous phase of contraction and expansion. Beyond the Big Bang: Some argue that asking about what existed before the Big Bang is meaningless because time as we understand it may have originated with the Big Bang. Inflationary Cosmology: Inflationary cosmology suggests that the universe underwent a period of rapid expansion very early on, which may have started from a finite state rather than a singularity. Hot Tricks in Nova Mix: For those that don't need to speculate on the details but just need a general idea . or ... " A Wizard did it " Edited May 8 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 8 7 hours ago, old3bob said: "The phrase "The Tao gave birth to One" translates to "Tao, in its ultimate, undifferentiated state, is the source from which all things, including the concept of 'One,' emerge". It's the first step in the Tao Te Ching's description of the universe's formation, where Tao (the Way or Path) is the origin of all things." I'll go with this for now, alluding to the unmanifest manifesting in the sense of the "One"... thus connected but not the same for the One can be talked about (or named) but not the unmanifest other than being pointed towards. Dao = 0 the unmanifest . Giving birth to the one unveils its inner 'potential' ... the 'one ' being expressed as ( n- + n+ ) which = 0 The one giving birth to the two , n _ n+ unveils its inner potential ; - and + which is within the signature of all creation (10,000 things ) ; in physics this relates to 'supersymetry theory ' . I better not go on about that here , but it is a principle theorized to exist in many fields ' The supersymmetry algebra Supersymmetric quantum mechanics In finance Supersymmetry in quantum field theory Supersymmetry in condensed matter physics Supersymmetry in optics Supersymmetry in dynamical systems Supersymmetry in mathematics Supersymmetry in string theory Supersymmetry in particle physics Supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Mode Supersymmetry in alternate numbers of dimensions Fractional supersymmetry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted May 8 21 hours ago, Tommy said: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Does that assume that a human consciousness has identified all possibilities? I suspect there are many timelines, universes and species that human consciousness has yet to discover. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted May 9 (edited) 16 hours ago, Nungali said: Dao = 0 the unmanifest . Giving birth to the one unveils its inner 'potential' ... the 'one ' being expressed as ( n- + n+ ) which = 0 The one giving birth to the two , n _ n+ unveils its inner potential ; - and + which is within the signature of all creation (10,000 things ) ; in physics this relates to 'supersymetry theory ' . I better not go on about that here , but it is a principle theorized to exist in many fields ' The supersymmetry algebra Supersymmetric quantum mechanics In finance Supersymmetry in quantum field theory Supersymmetry in condensed matter physics Supersymmetry in optics Supersymmetry in dynamical systems Supersymmetry in mathematics Supersymmetry in string theory Supersymmetry in particle physics Supersymmetric extensions of the Standard Mode Supersymmetry in alternate numbers of dimensions Fractional supersymmetry what the hell give me a steam turbine/generator to run or something to fix, don't know about all the other interesting stuff...;-) do know that anything under the One belongs to the One and can not make a cross over to no-thing. (without dissolution as a thing) Edited May 9 by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted May 9 I bet when you do a genius job on fixing something ... you followed those principles - even without knowing it . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajay0 Posted May 23 In eastern religious philosophy , God is considered the same as love. Brahman is the name for the Absolute or God in Hinduism, who in turn is equated with consciousness, with pure consciousness being considered the same as pure love. Quote Prajñanam brahma - Brahman is pure consciousness (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3 of the Rig Veda) "God is love." - Jesus Christ (John 4:8) "Pure consciousness is pure love, and love is the highest healer on the planet - you can say, it is your natural Self." - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Nisargadatta Maharaj further elaborates on this principle of God being love... https://selfrealization.blog/2020/04/17/nisargadatta-maharaj-on-love-2/ Quote Now, let us go back again to what I told you about need being the basis of love. Consider what is the most priceless possession of any sentient being. If he had the choice of possessing either all the wealth in the world or his ‘beingness’, or ‘consciousness’ (you may give it any name to add to the thousands that have already been heaped upon it), that which gives him the sense of being alive and present, and without which the body would be nothing but a cadaver, what would he choose? Obviously, without consciousness, all the wealth in the world would be of no use to him. This beingness, this conscious presence that he is, is the beingness of every sentient being on the earth, the very soul of the entire universe, — and indeed, therefore, this-here-now, this conscious presence, cannot be anything other than God. It is this which one loves more than anything else because without it there is no universe, no God. This, therefore, is Presence-Love-God. And, St.John was obviously very much conscious of this when he said ‘God is Love. . . .’ It is very clear that all he could have meant is that he (John) and He (God) were not different as pure subjectivity, as noumenon. And, therefore, he who is anchored in the conscious presence that is Love, that is God, ‘dwelleth in God and God in him.’ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cadcam Posted May 24 God is the best of us; our ideal state in being and action. To project ones mind upward and outward towards a God grants us a real or imagined supernatural strength. Certainly, if history is correct, the new God of Love, creator and all good, was better than the previous gods, whom were irrational at times, and to be feared. Perhaps having a God of Love gave us a linear logic, and acceptable morals, and that is why that God has endured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
