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Unfortunately things happen that can't be explained, and unless it happens to a person, they can't accept it, and disbelief and ridicule follow.

I believe the church is considered the body of christ, as one is transfiguration from within by engaging in communion. I think the Holy Spirt represents the spirit of love between the father, son and body of the church

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You're just proving my point Nungali. You're not initiated into these mysteries. They say you should be of a certain age, maybe you just aren't old enough.

The study of Alchemy is to transmute chemicals, elements and minerals from one thing to another, such as lead into gold. This is also a metaphor for spiritual alchemy, where we take the elemental nature's of life and personality and turn them into something else, Ala occult symbols angels demons and gods. Philosophy being on the nature of things, primarily on the subject of life and existence, but also on matter, is a science of Wisdom, and it is said that to traverse the path of Wisdom promises the elixir or food of immortality. The philosophers stone is the metal, or idea, which is found at the conclusion of this journey, which can be used to explain all of nature- at least psychologically, but perhaps in the elemental realms as well, such as finding that primary stuff from which life emerges. As the latter element seems impossible to find, I suggest that the philosophers stone is more of a psychological idea from whence all things can be explained.

I didn't say you weren't initiated into something, just not this, and of this, I won't discuss, because you simply don't understand, and seem to think you are fully initiated into everything.

As I said, the "secret" is common enough, but obtaining it legitimately is not, and for those that have done so, it is gold, and I will not profane this journey for them or myself by discussing it with the uninitiated, who, as has been made evident by some, do not revere Wisdom as sacred.

The only path is to obey all laws, and not be something to desire, nor to desire anything.

The Buddha says one needs to know Right Action to avoid suffering, but there is no way to prevent suffering, because all action leads to desire, either for one's self, or for other people. If I take an action, I cause someone to desire, or I am working upon acquiring a desire. Therefore this premise is faulted. There is no way to prevent desire, which he says causes suffering.

From what I read of you here, nungali, you are that "internet know it all"

It is less about keeping a secret and more about giving away a good Sirs treasure! The grail or stone is a hard won prize! What fool would I be to reveal its hiding place to the profane, no matter how good they may appear to be! Nungali shows little reverence for sacred knowledge, as for them, it was easily procured, but for us Saints that art Holy, this was borne of life and blood!

I think I'll just let secrets be secrets.

What you claim to have used is not the philosophers stone. It is the science behind the metaphor of the philosophers stone. The philosophers stone is in plain sight most of the time, and many people examine it with some result, but do not revere it, because they did not quest for it. There is a difference between students of Wisdom and Philosophy and actual Adepts. A true Champion/Knight/Adept would never diminish the victory of acquiring the stone.

I just realized that the more one loves God and Life, the more trials they will face.

It was indeed a moment of pessimism. I'm well aware that in our Age, all things are accessible in all forms, and that there are a variety of choices available. Still, we seem to be at the mercy of striving for the ideal of Beauty, and execute or ignore that which fails it, and I blame this on the liberation of Lust, which finds us glorifying the body and senses. This, in combination with an ideal of perfect Law, leaves us intolerant of Man's obvious shortcomings of education, wealth and intelligence.