Master Logray Posted Monday at 03:53 PM 23 minutes ago, EFreethought said: The English are not Celts. Some parts of Scotland have a strong Norse influence as well. What is the common geographical term for England, Scotland and Ireland together? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
الضفدع الحكيم Posted 12 hours ago On 8/9/2025 at 10:51 AM, Nuralshamal said: great points! yes, as interesting as all this is, we’ve drifted completely away from the topic. SO! back to black magic. it sucks, and is super prevalent in the Middle East. in my wife’s village where she grew up, it was standard practice and you learnt since you were small. different things you could do, eg if someone has gotten a new home and you’re jealous, you write some things from the Quran in reverse on a slip of paper, say a curse, blow on it, crumble it up and hide it in the new home somewhere not to be found. As long as it’s there, it’ll give bad energy to the new home. Similarly at weddings, again, if you’re jealous, you can tie a string or a ribbon say on the chair, the utensils or any other thing to be used by the target, again saying a curse and blowing on it. If the victim then uses the thing, they will get cursed. there was also another trick, again if you feel jealous that they ‘have it better’ than you, where you peel a fruit, etch signs into the peel, then hide it in the home of the target during your visit. The peel again being ‘trash’ so giving off bad energy. these are simple and Childs play versions, but everyone in the village had learnt basic ‘black magic 101’ as kids. so just imagine if you really want to go into it, the ancient systems found there all the way back to ancient pre-Islam Persia and ancient Babylon, using blood, piss, feces, and systematic cultivation of dark energy over decades. And just to remind, this young dude who cursed us, Zhongxian Wu inspite of cultivating since the age of 4, having all magical powers, healing, having done 1 year dark retreat in a cave, you name it, he couldn’t remove it. Chunyi Lin who’s also got healing and psychic powers, having fasted 30 days in a cave meditating until he could see with his eyes closed, he also wasn’t powerful enough to remove it. Hindu Swami who’s done sadhana since his teenage years, having done tantric graveyard sadhana and tamasic worship using blood to control spirits, having siddhi of Mahavidyas, he also couldn’t remove it. sufi having done innumerable retreats in Iran and Afghanistan, the most psychic and clairvoyant I ever met, having healing lots of people on the brink of death deemed unsaveable due to blood cancer, marrow cancer, brain cancer, you name it, he also couldn’t remove it. this is serious stuff, and from what I gather it’s a kind of specialty niche in cultivation, that unless you’ve gone deep, you cannot counter it, no matter how strong your general energy is, and even if you at a high level in tamasic tantric controlling spirits. So I feel you need to train in this specific area in order to be able to fight someone who’s also trained specifically in this area. And people who do that are extremely rare, even the most powerful masters I met in my life (all cited above), as well as my SKY masters, none could remove it. I didn't expect to find another Arab in this place. It's strange and wonderful to see another Arab interested in esotericism and Eastern religions. You're absolutely right, Brother Nuralshamal, The practice of black magic is widespread in the Middle East, and not just in the Middle East, but also in other North African countries. This type of practice is particularly prevalent in countries like Morocco, Iraq, Egypt, and Yemen. This is very sad, it shows the amount of hatred people have for each other in those countries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Logray Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, الضفدع الحكيم said: I didn't expect to find another Arab in this place. It's strange and wonderful to see another Arab interested in esotericism and Eastern religions. You're absolutely right, Brother Nuralshamal, The practice of black magic is widespread in the Middle East, and not just in the Middle East, but also in other North African countries. This type of practice is particularly prevalent in countries like Morocco, Iraq, Egypt, and Yemen. This is very sad, it shows the amount of hatred people have for each other in those countries Nuralshamal is multi racial. Does practice black magic in these countries bring great risks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
الضفدع الحكيم Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Master Logray said: Nuralshamal is multi racial. Does practice black magic in these countries bring great risks? Practicing black magic causes many risks, even to the practitioner himself. For example, there was a famous magician in Egypt, a student of Al-Tawkhi, who was an experienced magician in black magic, and he was found dead while practicing black magic, His face showed signs of horror and fear, This story is very widespread in the middle east, but I honestly do not know whether it happened or not, but its content is true, which is that practicing black magic can be very dangerous, even for the practitioner himself, and not just for others, You can look at the pages of Shams al-Ma'arif al-Kubra, especially the older editions, and you will feel uneasy and intimidated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, الضفدع الحكيم said: Practicing black magic causes many risks, even to the practitioner himself. By one account, the real magicians are not human - but like to use humans as disposable props in their magic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, الضفدع الحكيم said: Practicing black magic causes many risks, even to the practitioner himself. For example, there was a famous magician in Egypt, a student of Al-Tawkhi, who was an experienced magician in black magic, and he was found dead while practicing black magic, His face showed signs of horror and fear, This story is very widespread in the middle east, but I honestly do not know whether it happened or not, but its content is true, which is that practicing black magic can be very dangerous, even for the practitioner himself, and not just for others, You can look at the pages of Shams al-Ma'arif al-Kubra, especially the older editions, and you will feel uneasy and intimidated. Even without that story , the 'virtuous' will realize that these practices are bad 'in themselves ' . I will share a passage with you about using magic ; '' ... Be thou therefore prompt and active as the Sylphs, but avoid frivolity and caprice; be energetic and strong like the Salamanders, but avoid irritability and ferocity; be flexible and attentive to images like the Undines, but avoid idleness and changeability; be laborious and patient like the Gnomes, but avoid grossness and avarice. So shalt thou gradually develop the powers of thy soul, and fit thyself to command the Spirits of the elements. For wert thou to summon the Gnomes to pander to thine avarice, thou wouldst no longer command them, but they would command thee. Wouldst thou abuse the pure beings of the woods and mountains to fill thy coffers and satisfy thy hunger of Gold? Wouldst thou debase the Spirits of Living Fire to serve thy wrath and hatred? Wouldst thou violate the purity of the Souls of the Waters to pander to thy lust of debauchery? Wouldst thou force the Spirits of the Evening Breeze to minister to thy folly and caprice? Know that with such desires thou canst but attract the Weak, not the Strong, and in that case the Weak will have power over thee. '' - In the modern world I think it is easy to see how many have become slaves to ' the hunger of gold ' . and also 'living fire to serve thy wrath and hatred ' - actually one can see modern civilization (if not the whole of 'mankind' ) abusing ALL the elemental forces . And we can see , or are starting to see the results . Do you know the story of Faust ? He wanted all those powers so did a deal with Mephistopheles . he was a type of icon for an era . Some have said the modern Faust is the scientist . He traded his soul for technological power . How will that end up ? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites