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Building the lower dantien

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I saw a video on the tube about building the dantien and I think it's quite good. I learned a very similar exercise but had to pay for it some years ago...what do you think about the exercise, shown in the video? It's important to watch till to the end, because there comes the most important hands movement. 

 

https://youtu.be/M_9f4XJBuX8

 

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Feng69 

 

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His approach is pretty simplified but for a free video method covering foundational Dan Tien work it's as good as I've seen

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It's the exact same lesson you can get if you read Damo Mitchell's comprehensive Guide to Daoist NeiKung. I think you'll get greater detail if you read the book.

 

Maybe he is his student or come from the same lineage. But basically, the method that he described are as follows:-

 

1. Locate the lower Dan Tian

2. Combine the 3 ‚Äėinitiatory elements‚Äô in the lower Dan Tian - Awareness/breath/gravity

3. Consolidate the Jing

4. Rotate the lower Dan Tian

5. Generate the sphere

6. Connect the Dan Tian to the exterior

7. Build the container - yang hand to mold clay

8. Develop the centre of the ‚Äėgourd shape‚Äô

9. Build the Yang Qi

10. Fill the Dan Tian

 

 

Abovementioned is based on his book. One thing though, in order to shape/mold the container, one needs to have enough of yang qi coming out of the hand in order for it to have influence over the yin qi in the 'huang' as he called.

 

It was an interesting read, but it think it's pretty much debatable on this prerequisite. A lot of nei kung/qi gong system don't deal with this part, most just go into the filling of dantian. I'm a newbie, so correct me if i'm wrong, sifus who are reading.

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29 minutes ago, arthur said:

It's the exact same lesson you can get if you read Damo Mitchell's comprehensive Guide to Daoist NeiKung. I think you'll get greater detail if you read the book.

 

Maybe he is his student or come from the same lineage. But basically, the method that he described are as follows:-

 

1. Locate the lower Dan Tian

2. Combine the 3 ‚Äėinitiatory elements‚Äô in the lower Dan Tian - Awareness/breath/gravity

3. Consolidate the Jing

4. Rotate the lower Dan Tian

5. Generate the sphere

6. Connect the Dan Tian to the exterior

7. Build the container - yang hand to mold clay

8. Develop the centre of the ‚Äėgourd shape‚Äô

9. Build the Yang Qi

10. Fill the Dan Tian

 

 

Abovementioned is based on his book. One thing though, in order to shape/mold the container, one needs to have enough of yang qi coming out of the hand in order for it to have influence over the yin qi in the 'huang' as he called.

 

It was an interesting read, but it think it's pretty much debatable on this prerequisite. A lot of nei kung/qi gong system don't deal with this part, most just go into the filling of dantian. I'm a newbie, so correct me if i'm wrong, sifus who are reading.

Not a Sifu, but this video (short as it was, and most likely a part of a larger program) shows elements of #s 2 and 5 from that list.

 

Sinking in the Kua (which, looking at his YouTube channel, he's gone into detail about in another video) will help consolidate the Yin field, and the hand movements are there to help shape it.  Yang Qi doesn't come out of the hands, but by opening Laogong as he instructs in the video - the Qi inside is influenced to 'shape the sphere'.

 

Checking out his website, it looks like he trained in South America and then China under some names I'm not familiar with.  Definitely comparable to Damo's method, but possibly from a different line

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2 hours ago, Wilhelm said:

Not a Sifu, but this video (short as it was, and most likely a part of a larger program) shows elements of #s 2 and 5 from that list.

 

Sinking in the Kua (which, looking at his YouTube channel, he's gone into detail about in another video) will help consolidate the Yin field, and the hand movements are there to help shape it.  Yang Qi doesn't come out of the hands, but by opening Laogong as he instructs in the video - the Qi inside is influenced to 'shape the sphere'.

 

Checking out his website, it looks like he trained in South America and then China under some names I'm not familiar with.  Definitely comparable to Damo's method, but possibly from a different line

Yes I see it like you. 

As I said, I've learned a quite similar exercise to build the container and as I can say, it works. 

For a free video rather good in my opinion. 

Yes, there are more exercises and more complicated stuff for dantien work, but if one does for example eight brocades or something like that but has not learned how to build the sphere and is therefore not able to store the qi built from the Qigong , the exercise from the video could be a good one to begin with. 

Only my opinion. 

Best wishes 

Feng69 

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BTW, why does Damo Mitchell say in the MC Orbit video series that the dan tien is between Chi Hai and Ming Men in the middle of the body above perineum, and in his book, A Comprehensive Guide to Daoist Nei Gong, he pictures it at the level of Chi Hai in the middle of the body above perineum. It's a subtle difference but in my eyes a quite major one.

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One should pay attention to the shape of the hands ‚ÄĒ they should be like a ‚Äúfair maiden‚Äôs hand‚ÄĚ...slightly curved and not stretched wide open with locked finger joints. A good way is to work on generating a Qi/taiji ball between the palms. That‚Äôll get the Lao gong points activated.¬†
 

Just standing in proper wuji posture with mind resting on the lower dantien area will result in sinking Qi into the area. There will be a filling sensation there. 

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On 26.2.2021 at 9:14 PM, salaam123 said:

BTW, why does Damo Mitchell say in the MC Orbit video series that the dan tien is between Chi Hai and Ming Men in the middle of the body above perineum, and in his book, A Comprehensive Guide to Daoist Nei Gong, he pictures it at the level of Chi Hai in the middle of the body above perineum. It's a subtle difference but in my eyes a quite major one.

Sorry, haven't seen the video series about the MCO. 

I have seen many other clibs from him and during the last weeks read his book "a comprehensive guide..." and I also read his first book about neigong. 

In my opinion he writes good stuff even sometimes there are some differences between the old and the new book and some videos. 

But perhaps it has to do with his own experience, changing over the years. 

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