What are emotions

[Maddie]

10 minutes ago, welkin said:

 

 

The fact that you want to get rid of desire to rid yourself of suffering is the very reason you will always desire and always suffer.

 

 

 

 

 

The problem with the statement is that I have followed the Buddha's methods and I have let go of some degree of desire and with it the amount of suffering I experience has lessened as well. It's pretty hard to argue with personal experience confirming and verifying a teaching.

[welkin]

10 minutes ago, dmattwads said:

 

He didn't say there's anything wrong with desire, not like it's intrinsically evil but he did say it leads to suffering. And this is quite easy to confirm from one's own experience. therefore it's a reasonable conclusion to infer that by letting go of desire one will let go of the cause of suffering.

 

2 minutes ago, dmattwads said:

 

The problem with the statement is that I have followed the Buddha's methods and I have let go of some degree of desire and with it the amount of suffering I experience has lessened as well. It's pretty hard to argue with personal experience confirming and verifying a teaching.

 

You will not escape it because you are me and i am you. And we are everything

[Maddie]

2 minutes ago, welkin said:

 

 

You will not escape it because you are me and i am you. And we are everything

 

For being the same person we certainly have very different thoughts.

[welkin]

 

2 minutes ago, dmattwads said:

 

For being the same person we certainly have very different thoughts.

 

Hence the beauty of this life

[Maddie]

Just now, welkin said:

 

 

Hence the beauty of this life

 

Well, ok then.

[Maddie]

7 minutes ago, welkin said:

 

 

You will not escape it because you are me and i am you. And we are everything

 

So aside from sounding like I am The walrus by the Beatles what does that mean? Do you even know what that means?

[welkin]

Do you?

[Maddie]

2 minutes ago, welkin said:

Do you?

 

I'm not the one that said it. So ask again do you even know what that means?

[welkin]

Just now, dmattwads said:

 

I'm not the one that said it. So ask again do you even know what that means?

 

Well yes i do Mr Wads.

 

Does that somehow require me to give an explanation of what it means?

[Maddie]

1 minute ago, welkin said:

 

Well yes i do Mr Wads.

 

Does that somehow require me to give an explanation of what it means?

 

Require no, but if you do not it would tend to make it sound like there's a fair amount of eel wiggling occurring.

 

https://obo.genaud.net/dhammatalk/bd_dhammatalk/dhamma_talk/eel_wriggling.htm

[welkin]

First TDLR.

 

Second, who or what would you be if it were not for texts, books, influence?

 

I assume it would be undiscovered

 

You speak about God, yet your only reference to that power is through texts and the imagination your mind places upon what you're taught

Edited December 20, 2020 by welkin

[Maddie]

1 minute ago, welkin said:

First TDLR.

 

Second, who or what would you be if it were not for texts, books, influence?

 

I assume it would be undiscovered

 

I'll take that as you don't know what your statement means then.

[welkin]

1 minute ago, dmattwads said:

 

I'll take that as you don't know what your statement means then.

 

I'll take that as your only source of understanding what the statement meant is through your convoluted influenced mind.

 

Do you believe it isn't possible to truly know what that means without text? How did it become text in the first place?

[Nungali]

47 minutes ago, dmattwads said:

 

So aside from sounding like I am The walrus by the Beatles what does that mean? Do you even know what that means?

 

It means you are having  .....

 

 

' one of those Welkin 'conversations' .      

[welkin]

Nung,

 

Are you offended by the name Nungnuts?

 

I was reported and banned for calling you that.

Edited December 20, 2020 by welkin

[Nungali]

18 minutes ago, welkin said:

Nung,

 

Are you offended by the name Nungnuts?

 

I was reported and banned for calling you that.

 

Spoiler

 ( Quoted it as you continually edit what you post  )

 

Then why are you here doing it again ?

[welkin]

1 minute ago, Nungali said:

 

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Then why are you here doing it again ?

 

I edited it by adding the words "and banned" petty nungnuts.

 

I hope you're ability to think is much broader than that, otherwise you will be what Apech has admittedly identified with as senile.

 

To answer your question though, first bans only last 3 days. So tada here i am

[Nungali]

Tomorrow is the solstice ... so I am expecting to see some people behave    .......    ' a certain way  '    .    

 

 

 

[Nungali]

Just now, welkin said:

 

I edited it by adding the words "and banned" petty nungnuts.

 

I hope you're ability to think is much broader than that, otherwise you will be what Apech has admittedly identified with as senile.

 

To answer your question though, first bans only last 3 days. So tada here i am

 

My question still stands ; why are you back here doing again what you where banned for  ?   

 

Look, cosmic forces are at equipoise .....  that effects behaviour . Stop and think if you really want another ban and also think that the 2nd ban might have bigger consequences . . . .   before you    'go on' .

[Nungali]

Try this

 

 

 

 

 

Lime and limpid green, the sounds around
The icy waters underground.

Jupiter and Saturn, Oberon, Miranda and Titania
Neptune, Titan, stars can frighten.

[welkin]

1 minute ago, Nungali said:

 

My question still stands ; why are you back here doing again what you where banned for  ?   

 

Look, cosmic forces are at equipoise .....  that effects behaviour . Stop and think if you really want another ban and also think that the 2nd ban might have bigger consequences . . . .   before you    'go on' .

 

I was banned for calling you Nungnuts as i mentioned, and apparently disrupting the atlantis thread even though i was only responding 'others' ridicule.

 

i'm back as the anniversary prediction of the forum dying just a year ago is coming true.

 

But...

 

Fair enough, uncle Nungali has shown a tiny glimpse of care.

[Limahong]

2 hours ago, Nungali said:

Lime and limpid green...

 

Excuse me Nun ~ who are you targeting?

 

 

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

Excuse me Nun ~ who    what  are you targeting?

 

 

 

Emotions .

 

 

 

Overhead the albatross
Hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves
In labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant time
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine

And no one showed us to the land
And no one knows the where's or why's
But something stirs and something tries
And starts to climb toward the light

Strangers passing in the street
By chance, two separate glances meet
And I am you and what I see is me
And do I take you by the hand
And lead you through the land
And help me understand the best I can?

And no one calls us to move on
And no one forces down our eyes
No one speaks and no one tries
No one flies around the sun

Cloudless everyday
You fall upon my waking eyes
Inviting and inciting me to rise
And through the window in the wall
Come streaming in on sunlight wings
A million bright ambassadors of morning

And no one sings me lullabies
And no one makes me close my eyes
So I throw the windows wide
And call to you across the sky.

 

 

[Nungali]

.... why on earth would any one think that the lines  "  Lime and limpid green."   ( taken out of context and isolated, mind you , ) is an attempt to 'target ' a  person  ?

 

[silent thunder]

Lime is pretty close to Lima...?