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Quick question on detox in cultivation

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Hi! I'm new around here, but I have trained in western magic for ~5-6 years and martial arts for ~3 years. I started neigong martial cultivation around a year ago, and am still in a detox phase. Over this past year, I've averaged 30-60 minutes a day of internal practice, with a few breakthroughs felt. I spent the majority of my youth on various psychiatric medicine, and only got off it all when I was around 20. Is it possible that this is what's causing my detox period to take this long? From the research I've done, it usually wouldn't take over a month even in those on medicine. Would 20 years of pills take 20 years to detox? If anyone has any experience or knowledge in this regard, I would greatly appreciate input! 

 

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Much appreciated on the welcomes and links to the rules! I have anonymously lurked around quite a bit on here before, as I've found answers to many of my questions in threads on TDB. The main things I seek is food for thought, possible solutions, or resources to check, though I'm happy with any responses I get. I've been taught to learn everything I can, afterall.

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From a chemical perspective, if you want to flush the toxins from your body i'd do a water fast....perhaps several. 

 

On a more serious note, if you have mental/emotional imbalances, then doing energy work or magick carries a higher risk because there is a circuitry imbalance in your system. This means that when power flows through your system it has a higher potential of triggering agitation. As a result, stabilizing practices can be extremely important to practice in the beginning so that you become more durable. PM me if you'd like some help.  

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First off, thank you for the reply! 

 

Water fasts are something I did before I started cultivating, though I stopped due to my energy consumption during cultivation. 

 

What kind of stabilizing practices do you suggest? 

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19 hours ago, freeform said:

What do you mean by detox? What are you experiencing?

 

Stuff leaving the body through excrement triggered by energy work. If you're asking for specifics, it's hard to exactly describe it, but it's like the sweat is thicker than normal? A massive level of exhaustion, quite a few headaches, B/O problems, allergy-like symptoms. It seems to happen the most after using my cultivation technique, but does sometimes happen after microcosmic orbit or turtle shell breathing. From the research I've done, this should be a pretty standard thing when building a foundation, but I've never heard of it lasting for more than a year before. That said, very few people have been on the level of psych-meds that I've taken throughout my life, so I wonder if the extended length is par for the course?

 

As a small example, at a few times throughout my childhood, they put me on enough experimental medicine to make me forget how to talk. For most of my school years, I was taking enough medicine to stunt my IQ by around 40 points. I had issues with going berserk (blacking out, screaming about killing people, and attacking anything in sight; it took 5 grown men to hold down myself as a fourth grader), and none of the western medicine was really doing much to stop it. They removed me from said medicine around the time I turned 20 due to potential kidney and liver failure. After I started studying magic, I found the "cure" in that it was an issue with the amount of energy I had naturally combined with some negative influences, and after removing those influences, I've was relieved of said issue.

 

In addition, the summer that I begun cultivation proper, I had accidentally overdosed on gout medicine to the point that the doctors said I was lucky I didn't have total organ failure. Funny story there is that I overdosed on Thursday, went to the ER on Friday, left the hospital late Saturday night, and went to the class that taught me the basics on Sunday. Fate's strange like that, I suppose.

 

That was somewhat of a tangent, but I believe it is sufficient to explain the amount of contamination I started this journey with, as well as reasons for said contamination and symptoms of detox. On the bright side, with each day I practice, I can feel my mind becoming more and more agile. 

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Sorry to hear you were pumped full of drugs as a kid - but glad you found your own way out :)

 

Yes you‚Äôre right your detox symptoms sound like standard purging symptoms - but as you say, they should not last so long... usually it will be a few ‚Äėevents‚Äô within the first year or so of practice. Not several years and not constant at all - even with all the medication you received.

 

i knew a guy who trained with us - he used to be an ‚Äėairbrush artist‚Äô for an advertising firm in the 80s/90s - this involved 8hrs a day of using spray paints - for many years. When his purging started he would sweat strange bright colours, colour would collect under his nails and drip out from the edge, his eye whites would change tint etc. But this stopped within about three or four months.

 

i think to be on the safe side it might be a good idea to consult a Chinese Medicine practitioner - just to make sure there isn’t some toxic process going on.

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I see said past as being instrumental to forming the person I am now, and thus do not lament it too much. I'll probably go see a TCM practitioner once life stops giving curveballs, assuming the symptoms persist. One mistake I have made in my practice was underestimating the importance of the MCO, so I haven't actually worked on opening it until less than a month ago. After beginning on my MCO, a lot of my other symptoms have ceased being an issue, though the purging still seems to be happening. I'll give it a week or two to sort itself out and proceed accordingly.

 

Much thanks for the input on here!

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