Do What Thou Wilt

[Kojiro]

On 11/13/2019 at 5:04 AM, Earl Grey said:

What is baffling is that his exposure is only the quotes in my signature. A lot of inferred rationalizing, zero context.

 

I could quote a line out of context referencing the AMA summoning a demon in the Illuminatus trilogy and someone might use that to justify their belief RAW was a demon summoning Satanist.

what book would you recommend from Robert Anton Wilson? i am interested in reading some of his books

Edited January 31, 2024 by Kojiro

[silent thunder]

@Kojiro Prometheus Risin Illuminatus! and Quantum Psychology are good starting points for RAW

[goldenlamb]

I told this to a Christian Gnostic. He told med "Do what you should"

[Cadcam]

Do what thou wilt doesn't mean do as you like, it means do that which is in your will to do. I think deeper than that it refers to a rite magicians take when they declare their will to the universe 

[Lairg]

5 hours ago, Cadcam said:

Do what thou wilt doesn't mean do as you like, it means do that which is in your will to do.

 

My own view is that multiple wills exist in the human format.  For example, many have difficulty stopping eating a favorite food.

 

Others are greedy for power.

 

At a more abstract level, it is useful to distinguish the personal will from the transpersonal will

 

 

[Cadcam]

10 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

My own view is that multiple wills exist in the human format.  For example, many have difficulty stopping eating a favorite food.

 

 

 

 

I don't think this is a good example of will, that is more an example of lack of will.

 

 

[Lairg]

3 hours ago, Cadcam said:

that is more an example of lack of will.

 

So what is the nature of the urge to keep eating well beyond necessity?

[Nungali]

15 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

My own view is that multiple wills exist in the human format.  For example, many have difficulty stopping eating a favorite food.

 

Others are greedy for power.

 

At a more abstract level, it is useful to distinguish the personal will from the transpersonal will

 

 

 

I agree but ....  That is normal everyday 'will'   not    'wilt'  as is considered in the meaning of the phrase  ( that is,  the phrase which  is the title  of this thread ) . The 'will ' is multi faceted or just multiple , as you observe   -    as the 'self' is .   Without integration of wills and selves , we are an unruly mess of drives, 'purposes'   and . sometimes conflicting , wills ..

 

Even with the concept of the 'True Will ' ( which is the 'will' referred to in the phrase ) one must be mindful and respecting of 'transpersonal will '  ... that is 'beyond your own person ' as ; if ( and especially 'magically' ) one affirms the importance of enacting one's True Will , then one must give the same right to others   .... otherwise  ... well, that's just   selfish, greed , even 'personal fascism ' .