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im looking for a more simple practice basically, there is lots in this book for someone to get stuck into ,

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10 hours ago, Bruce Qi said:

im looking for a more simple practice basically, there is lots in this book for someone to get stuck into ,

 

You could start with the pore breathing practice, this is how WLP starts with new students. The chapter to begin with is 'Attracting Immortality' which has 12 methods. It starts from the very basics and unfolds into whatever depth you can manage.

 

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On 5/15/2019 at 10:21 PM, idquest said:

 

You could start with the pore breathing practice, this is how WLP starts with new students. The chapter to begin with is 'Attracting Immortality' which has 12 methods. It starts from the very basics and unfolds into whatever depth you can manage.

 

 

That's interesting - I just transcribed a Chunyi Lin talk and he also starts with pore breathing.

 

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So qigong, here specifically Spring Forest Qigong, at the very beginning helping you connect yourself to the Divine by the breathing. Inhaling energy coming in through the Universe, through every pore, every cell, and put in the lower dan t'ien in the navel. And you exhale - visualize all these stresses, these aches and pains, and smoke shooting out, from every part of the body, returning back to the Universe.

https://elixirfield.blogspot.com/2019/05/controlling-qi-can-be-dangerous.html

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On 5/16/2019 at 11:21 AM, idquest said:

 

You could start with the pore breathing practice, this is how WLP starts with new students. The chapter to begin with is 'Attracting Immortality' which has 12 methods. It starts from the very basics and unfolds into whatever depth you can manage.

 

So does this new book also include Yin Xian Fa, and three immortals? 

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4 hours ago, Jaguar said:

So does this new book also include Yin Xian Fa, and three immortals? 

 

Yes this new book includes the Yin Xian Fa although it was translated to English as 'Attracting Immortality'.

 

To be honest, now that I've received the book myself and had a chance to quickly flip through it, I see how it could be confusing. I'd say even more, the impression from the book is very different than from WLP's retreats. With this, for any new readers and anybody new to WLP's system, I'd recommend start reading from chapters 3A and 3B, and after that jump right to chapters 13A and 13B which is Attracting Immortality (Yin Xian Fa), and after that to 14A-B. This will give you more feel of how current WLP's retreats are structured.

 

Also, on a general note, some technical Chinese terms were translated to English which also can be confusing. Here are some of them:

- shen - translated as 'spirit'

- Jing - translated as 'essence'

- ling - translated as 'life force'

- Xiatian (what is usually referred to as dantian) - translated as lower field.

I see how these translation choices could also be confusing.

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15 hours ago, idquest said:

 for any new readers and anybody new to WLP's system, I'd recommend start reading from chapters 3A and 3B, and after that jump right to chapters 13A and 13B which is Attracting Immortality (Yin Xian Fa), and after that to 14A-B. This will give you more feel of how current WLP's retreats are structured.

 

 

thanks so much for this as i took one look at the book and basically gave up before i even tried  !

can i ask , which part is the golden flower ?

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15 hours ago, Bruce Qi said:

thanks so much for this as i took one look at the book and basically gave up before i even tried  !

can i ask , which part is the golden flower ?

 

The Secret of the Golden Flower is taiyi jinhua zongzhi (I hope I did it right) which is chapters 14A-B in the book. For the beginners (such as myself) there are two distinct practices there: opening the 3rd eye with li, and An Shen Zu Qiao. WLP usually teaches the first one in the beginning, and the second one in the end. It is recommended that one has done good volume of pore breathing and xiatian (lower field/dantian) work before starting with the 3rd eye.

 

Another comment re the book: it is NOT a textbook and it is NOT a map for WLP's teaching. In my view the content of the book is more like a collection of transcripts of WLP's talks and guided meditation from 90-s and early 2000-s that are combined in almost random order. Those who attended at least one retreat will figure out what is what. Otherwise it is very difficult to figure out how to build practice based on this book.

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2 hours ago, idquest said:

Another comment re the book: it is NOT a textbook and it is NOT a map for WLP's teaching. In my view the content of the book is more like a collection of transcripts of WLP's talks and guided meditation from 90-s and early 2000-s that are combined in almost random order. Those who attended at least one retreat will figure out what is what. Otherwise it is very difficult to figure out how to build practice based on this book.

Yup... I've read through parts of the Attracting Immortality and personally have no clue how one is supposed to actually practice from that. :lol: Seems like it would be helpful to someone who's been to a retreat and got the guided instructions the book refers to. The "sleep" practices seem relatively straightforward however.

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Got my copy last week.  Awaiting the impulse to dive into training again and will open it then.

 

As for Sleeping practices... woof!  They were by far the most paradigm shifting experiences for me on the retreat.

They were reality expanding experiences.  Much like some of my sessions with Zhou Ting-Jue.

 

Still so grateful to have met and worked with Master Wang and Richard.  Hope it works out again timing and location wise to go again.

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On 5/16/2019 at 4:21 AM, idquest said:

You could start with the pore breathing practice, this is how WLP starts with new students. The chapter to begin with is 'Attracting Immortality' which has 12 methods. It starts from the very basics and unfolds into whatever depth you can manage.

 

On 5/23/2019 at 7:30 PM, idquest said:

Yes this new book includes the Yin Xian Fa although it was translated to English as 'Attracting Immortality'.

 

To be honest, now that I've received the book myself and had a chance to quickly flip through it, I see how it could be confusing. I'd say even more, the impression from the book is very different than from WLP's retreats. With this, for any new readers and anybody new to WLP's system, I'd recommend start reading from chapters 3A and 3B, and after that jump right to chapters 13A and 13B which is Attracting Immortality (Yin Xian Fa), and after that to 14A-B. This will give you more feel of how current WLP's retreats are structured.

 

Also, on a general note, some technical Chinese terms were translated to English which also can be confusing. Here are some of them:

- shen - translated as 'spirit'

- Jing - translated as 'essence'

- ling - translated as 'life force'

- Xiatian (what is usually referred to as dantian) - translated as lower field.

I see how these translation choices could also be confusing.

 

22 hours ago, idquest said:

The Secret of the Golden Flower is taiyi jinhua zongzhi (I hope I did it right) which is chapters 14A-B in the book. For the beginners (such as myself) there are two distinct practices there: opening the 3rd eye with li, and An Shen Zu Qiao. WLP usually teaches the first one in the beginning, and the second one in the end. It is recommended that one has done good volume of pore breathing and xiatian (lower field/dantian) work before starting with the 3rd eye.

 

Another comment re the book: it is NOT a textbook and it is NOT a map for WLP's teaching. In my view the content of the book is more like a collection of transcripts of WLP's talks and guided meditation from 90-s and early 2000-s that are combined in almost random order. Those who attended at least one retreat will figure out what is what. Otherwise it is very difficult to figure out how to build practice based on this book.

 

Thank you very much.

 

 

22 hours ago, idquest said:

It is recommended that one has done good volume of pore breathing and xiatian (lower field/dantian) work before starting with the 3rd eye.

 

As in years for the LDT work?

 

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