Relationships with older women

[gendao]

Rainbow Vein, you objected to this claim. Do you know something I don't?

 

I can't think of any young women that have ever been on here except Makyea, who left soon after she came, and perhaps MichelleD, who might have been a troll.

Exactly. In addition, look at the high number of older female/younger male couples here. All of this debunks the unsubstantiated claim that "women emotionally mature faster than men." When obviously, more men have to seek older women to find equivalent maturity.

 

We could start polls for age ranges of male & female posters here...but when women make up their minds to rationalize emotional preferences - facts aren't going to change them. They will just keep moving the goalposts back everytime you kick a field goal. I see that game already happening here...so it's not worth jumping through hoops when you can never win.

 

 

cat & RV - 2nd-wave feminists are the ones who fought for the sexual revolution - that heated up the sexual arms race amongst both genders. So by the same token, men are also being judged now for their abs & eggbeaters like supersized porn stars.

 

Also, in reality, most of the discussion here revolves around health, spirituality & qigong methods. Not SKF.

Edited May 6, 2010 by vortex

[gendao]

Yes, I agree. Statistics show that women increasingly seek men that look good to. Why? Because women have steadily been making more money over the last 30 years. They are depending less and less on the income of their male partners and have more options when choosing a man.

 

Oh, and what's SKF?

Exactly! Not to mention our welfare state that also provides & cuckolds for single moms now too. So, beta male providers are becoming obsolete as "necessities" & replaced by recreational alpha male boy toys as luxuries. The rules have officially changed over the last generation...

 

Unfortunately, beta males driven to provide for sex...is what builds civilization. If you take away that motivation, civilization falls apart because alpha male studs don't have to do much to get laid & breed rampantly. In fact, they tend to drain society with poor lifestyles & illicit behavior. On a micro scale, this is what forms urban ghettos. Which we're also seeing at large in our collapsing nation today.

 

What's actually happening now is a perfect storm brewing that will hit our children & grandchildren like an asteroid. You combine family breakdown, beta male disenfranchisement, more Socialist entitlements, plastic pollution, GMO crops, spiraling debt, NW0, global warming, rapidly shifting demographics, etc...our irresponsibility now is leaving them a shameful inheritance of less than nothing. But sorry, I digress...

 

Sexual kung fu.

Edited May 7, 2010 by vortex

[NeiChuan]

Hi Vortex..

 

1) So younger women are going crazy, because they expect themselves to be like airbrushed size zero porn queens and also to be like men.

1a) Being on taobums isnt a certificate of emotional maturity. far from it. Especially not when your focus is gaining powers and getting over premature ejaculation.

2) Traditionally younger women have been prized for their reproductive capacity and fresh out of the box quality. That's about it. Young men dont have to be prized biologically, what with spunk being available from

old dudes. ha ha.

2a) I dont see a reduction in vitality in women post menopausally, necessarily. Certainly not sexually, from what I hear, the freedom from fertility is a terrific aphrodisiac, and the orgasmic capacity just deepens and deepens.

 

Short term hook ups can be dependant upon nothing more than availability and convenience, really. Like a bag of chips.

 

Great post cat =D. 1.a made me chuckle

[Birch]

/Kate/ reaches for her snack

[三江源]

men are also being judged now for their abs & eggbeaters like supersized porn stars.

 

 

how depressingly futile.

[markern]

1) False. Just look at the demographics of this spiritually-oriented site. There's a lot more younger men than young women (are there even any of those here?). This also accounts for the recent rise in cougar/boy toy pairings. Young men must often date older women now if they want to find partners of similar maturity. Whereas younger women tend to act like ADD frat boys on crack these days (see Lindsay Lohan & Britney Spears).

 

 

 

 

Exactly. In addition, look at the high number of older female/younger male couples here. All of this debunks the unsubstantiated claim that "women emotionally mature faster than men." When obviously, more men have to seek older women to find equivalent maturity.

 

 

 

If you look at any yoga or meditation class you will find that not only hte majority but usually arround 70-80% of the attendants are women. However, considering how few of the students are men there is a disproportional number of men who are teachers or who have a hihg level practice. I think this is because men tend to go into something with much more effort when they find something they really want to go for while women tend to favour more balance and achiving many smaler goals on a broader spectrum.

 

THis page is a special case. A huge number of the posters have come here because they were initially interested in having multiple orgasms and nothing more. A very high number have also come here through martial arts practice which is very male dominated.

 

THe number of young women with older male partners far outnumber the number of young men with older female partnerrs in our society. If these pairings ar an indication of who matures quickly then it is the women.

[gendao]

If you look at any yoga or meditation class you will find that not only hte majority but usually arround 70-80% of the attendants are women. However, considering how few of the students are men there is a disproportional number of men who are teachers or who have a hihg level practice.

Well, I think women tend to gravitate towards cardio or flexibility exercises because they want to get lithe & toned, not big & bulky. Gym yoga is not very explicitly spiritual - and many just do it primarily as a stretching routine. Similarly, aerobics classes are also about 95% women - by the same token. So, I don't think these are good examples demonstrating "emotional maturity" - but moreso of gender preferences in physiques.

 

You are correct in that our data pool is very skewed by our fringe interest, though.

 

However, the point remains that if men really emotionally matured slower...then why are so many women here dating younger men? If a man their same age is less mature, then an even younger man would be even MORE immature! So, either all these women here prefer babysitting far more immature boys...or men emotionally mature FASTER than women. Do you really think it's the former, instead??? Was I giving women too much credit here?

Edited May 7, 2010 by vortex

[Enishi]

Personally speaking, when I was 25 and first started breaking out of my shell, I initially felt more drawn to older women. I think part of that was due to the emotional needs I had at the time.

 

I had fun with several 30+ women back then, but have far less desire to do so now (although a couple of 30+ non-anglo latina and asian ladies have managed to turn my eye). Not only do I feel much greater physical attraction to women who are my age (28) or younger, but I feel more of an emotional draw to them as well. Although many are indeed quite immature, I think this has more to do with the unhealthy aspects of industrialized societies.

 

In regards to women not being as spiritually driven as men, I have actually meet quite a few young women who are interested in spiritual cultivation and have better chi ability than most men. However, they tend to bounce around more emotionally, and aren't as driven to devote huge amounts of time to intense drawn out debates on forums or hours of seated meditation to attain high levels of power/enlightenment (which could be a good thing depending on how you look at it).

Edited May 7, 2010 by Enishi

[3bob]

I once met a very ancient woman who is far beyond the count of years, and my God She is always and forever young, new and beautiful!

 

Om

[gendao]

You may have been giving some women too much credit...

Lol

 

Bad news for cougars seeking boy toys though:

Cougars die young (but sugar daddies live to a ripe old age)

 

Research shows that women who tie the knot with younger men tend to die before their time. And the younger her beloved is, the harder it is on her health.

 

Men, on the other hand appear to thrive when they marry someone younger. In fact, the more youthful his wife, the longer a man lives.

 

The disparity was revealed by an analysis of the marriage and death records of two million Dutch men and women.

 

It showed that men who marry younger women live longer than those who choose a spouse of their own age.

 

For instance, a man with a wife seven to nine years his junior - often nicknamed a 'sugar daddy' - is 7 per cent less likely to die at any given time than one who picks a woman of the same age.

 

And the bigger the age gap, the longer his life. In contrast, a woman who snags a man seven to nine years younger is 20 per cent more likely to die than one who tied the knot with a chap of her own age.

 

And for any woman 'lucky' enough to marry a man more than 15 years younger, the risk soars to 30 per cent, say the findings, reported in the journal Demography.

Might still be worth it though! Edited May 13, 2010 by vortex

[markern]

Well, I think women tend to gravitate towards cardio or flexibility exercises because they want to get lithe & toned, not big & bulky. Gym yoga is not very explicitly spiritual - and many just do it primarily as a stretching routine. Similarly, aerobics classes are also about 95% women - by the same token. So, I don't think these are good examples demonstrating "emotional maturity" - but moreso of gender preferences in physiques.

 

You are correct in that our data pool is very skewed by our fringe interest, though.

 

However, the point remains that if men really emotionally matured slower...then why are so many women here dating younger men? If a man their same age is less mature, then an even younger man would be even MORE immature! So, either all these women here prefer babysitting far more immature boys...or men emotionally mature FASTER than women. Do you really think it's the former, instead??? Was I giving women too much credit here?

 

THe point about strecthing exercises etc. is valid but the same difference in numbers shows up when you look at meditation classes and also any sort of new age gathering.

 

To repeat, despite several women on this forum dating younger men it is still the case that in western societies there are a lot more older men dating younger women than there are older women dating younger men. THe difference is huge even if it is now starting to even out. So if which sex dates most younger people is an indicator of who matures the fastest then it is the women who mature the fastest.

Edited May 13, 2010 by markern