Flying Phoenix Chi Kung

[Boreas]

1 hour ago, zen-bear said:

 

Hi Boreas,

 

I don't quite understand what your acupuncturist had diagnosed you as having when you wrote:   "I was checking the box for the beginning of a deviation..."

Where is the "deviation"?  In what part of the body?

• What presenting problem or type of pain(s) do you have that caused you to seek treatment from an acupuncturist?

 

Unless you are having symptoms that prevent you from doing the FPCK breathing formulas and/or that make assuming the basic postures such as  Monk Holding Pearl, MHPeach, and Monk Gazing At Moon painful, then hold back from practice.  But FP Qigong is  so mild, so restorative and stress-dissipating that you can continue practicing it so long as you are feeling its calming, energizing, and  rejuvenating effects.   And should any of the standing FP Meditations become difficult or painful, then practice the seated Monk Serves wine seated Meds. in Volumes 2 and 7.

 

Remember:  I was vetted and cleared by the I.R.B. of Cedars-Sinai Medical center in L.A. in 1999-2000 to write the first in-hospital Qigong protocol in American medical history for the Dept. of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery to accelerate the recover of acute-care pot-operative patients (who had major heart, lung and back surgeries...having their chests replumbed.).  This content of first of its kind protocol was 80% FP Qigong.

 

Good luck.

 

Sifu Terry

 

 

https://www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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He told me that apart from some Liver Yang rising, qi in my back meridians started to disperse horizontally.

As for the pains, as I've wrote a few posts before, it's been almost two years that my middle and upper back are painful and nothing seems to do the trick to reduce it. With that, I have regularly acute pains in my lungs that my doctor could never explained as well because, same as my back, they are 100% healthy according to all tests.

So, if those pains are coming from a more energetic angle, I just wanted to be sure that I wouldn't "fuel the fire" by continuing qigong practice...

[Antares]

12 hours ago, zen-bear said:

The Chinese term you've defined as "yuan shen = original spirit" does not have a functional role in the practice of FP Qigong.

 

On 23.07.2013 at 12:32 AM, Warrior Body Buddha Mind said:

YES Ant, what is sunn gung?

Edited March 21 by Antares

[Antares]

On 24.07.2013 at 8:58 AM, pitisukha said:

Searching the two characters here http://www.chinese-tools.com/tools/dictionary.html

神

功

I think it can be translated as "spiritual/heavenly achievment"

 

In this case it should be used by people on a spiritual quest

 

Don't know about Sunn Dar...

 

On 24.07.2013 at 9:07 AM, Warrior Body Buddha Mind said:

getting there

 

[zen-bear]

On 3/21/2025 at 3:43 AM, Boreas said:

He told me that apart from some Liver Yang rising, qi in my back meridians started to disperse horizontally.

As for the pains, as I've wrote a few posts before, it's been almost two years that my middle and upper back are painful and nothing seems to do the trick to reduce it. With that, I have regularly acute pains in my lungs that my doctor could never explained as well because, same as my back, they are 100% healthy according to all tests.

So, if those pains are coming from a more energetic angle, I just wanted to be sure that I wouldn't "fuel the fire" by continuing qigong practice...

Thanks for the additional info, Boreas,
What the acupuncturist said describes energy quality and movement tied to the liver.
Liver, as per 5 Element Theory is tied to the element of Wood and emotion of anger.

Acute pains in tne lungs is associated with the element Metal and the emotion of grief.

Did you suffer some incident 2 yrs ago that caused you grief and  great anger?

 

You can try a little bit of FP Qigong at a time (5 to 10 minutes)...and see if it has good effect.  If it exacerbates any of the pain symptoms, then or course stop.

 

Good luck,

Sifu Terry

 

P.S.   Pain in the upper and middle back and in the lungs are of two types of "body syndromes" in my school/set theory of holistic healing and counseling that is anchored by hypnotherapy (Kappasian, as in John Kappas, founder of Hypnosis Motivation Institute (HMI) in Tarzana, CA--where I trained and was certified in the mid-1980's.)  If you want to do a consultation via Zoom, you can contact me at [email protected]

 

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Edited April 19 by zen-bear

[daobro]

On 3/20/2025 at 5:04 PM, Boreas said:

Well, as I mentionned I think in one of my first post on this thread, I came to qigong via Anthony Korahais’ Flowing Zen Qigong (that is basically a rebranding of Wong Kiew Kit’s Shaolin Cosmos Qigong) and I got into the habit of starting my day with a short session of 15 minutes of it before getting into my FPCK morning routine.

 

Could it come from there...?

 

I also practiced Flowing Zen for about 4 years before getting into Flying Phoenix. I noticed that the qi didn't mesh that well when I practiced back to back, so now I wait at least a few hours between the two.

Edited March 22 by daobro

[Boreas]

19 hours ago, zen-bear said:

Thanks for the additional info, Boreas,
What the acupuncturist said describes energy quality and movement tied to the liver.
Liver, as per 5 Element Theory is tied to the element of Wood and emotion of anger.

Acute pains in tne lungs is associated with the element Metal and the emotion of grief.

Did you suffer some incident 2 yrs ago that caused you grief and  great anger?

 

You can try a little bit of FP Qigong at a time (5 to 10 minutes)...and see if it has good effect.  If it exacerbates any of the pain symptoms, then or course stop.

 

Good luck,

Sifu Terry

 

P.S.   Pain in the upper and middle back and in the lungs are of two types of "body syndromes" in my school/set theory of holistic healing and counseling that is anchored by hypnotherapy (Kappasian, as in John Kappas, founder of Hypnosis Motivation Institute (HMI) in Tarzana, CA--where I trained and was certified in the mid-1980's.)  If you want to do a consultation via Zoom, you can contact me at [email protected]

Not that I'm aware of... I was just in the middle of an opera production in USA and those pains just appeared one morning and never left me since...

 

We'll do and keep a diary to record if it exacerbates those even though I don't recall feeling it worse after FPCK practice.

 

And thanks for your offer! I'll see first how it goes with this new acupuncture experience but I keep it in mind

[Boreas]

@daobro, good to know, thanks!

But beside that, never had an adverse reaction from Korahais system in itself?

Edited March 22 by Boreas

[zen-bear]

Reminder to all FP practitioners:

 

Today from 2:00 to 3:30pm EST, I am teaching a beginners' class in Tao Tan Pai ("Taoist Elixir Method") Basic 31 Meditations followed by 45 minutes of FP Qigong. 

 

This is an excellent opportunity to learn the TTP-31 and the Tao Tan Pai Short Form Power Yoga (a classical distillation of the TTP-31 into 5 essential meditations).   Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung is totally different from FP Qigong in  terms of yogic methodology, as it is highly shen-driven while FP Qigong is very Shen-passive.  Yet all levels of the Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung traditiion serves as a superb foundational catalyst that enhances and prolongs the healing effects of the Flying Phoenix Qigong.

Here is the Zoom log-on information and the tuition info:

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• FEE: $40 per class; $280 / 8-class series; or $500 / 16-class series

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See you soon on Zoom!

 

Sifu Terry

[daobro]

11 hours ago, Boreas said:

@daobro, good to know, thanks!

But beside that, never had an adverse reaction from Korahais system in itself?

No. Both have been extremely safe for me. (assuming you do the form and breath control correctly for FP)

Edited March 22 by daobro

[zen-bear]

To all FP Practitioners:

 

Reminder that today and every Sunday from 3pm to 4:30pm EST I will be teaching my weekly Intermediate/Advanced Qigong class that covers:
A.    Tao Tan Pai ("Taoist Elixir Method") 31 Meditations (a complete system of Chinese Yoga in and of itself  that accelerates and prolongs the healing effects of FP Qigong) 

B.    Tao Tan Pai 5 Animals Kung Fu forms and weapons.  Each TTP Form is a Shen-driven Qigong exercise.

C.    Advanced Flying Phoenix Qigong

       1.  Essential form corrections and refinement of "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" (on Vol.3) and  "Long Form Capstone Meditation" taught (on Vol.4)

       2.  Advanced Flying Phoenix Qigong - Level 2  (9 standing meditations).

 

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See you in class or on Zoom.

 

Sifu Terry

 

 

 

Edited March 27 by zen-bear

[daobro]

Hey everyone! I just took the Saturday class on Zoom today and got tons of corrections from Sifu Terry on Silkweaver's Exercise, Short Form Power Yoga (Tao Tan Pai), and Moonbeam Splashes on Water. Highly recommend.

 

One thing I'm wondering but forgot to ask in class -- @zen-bear you mentioned before that whenever I move my hands, I should feel corresponding energy movement in the body mass. Is that specific to Flying Phoenix? Or does it apply to other Bak Fu Pai qigong systems too? (10,000 Buddhas, Advanced Flying Phoenix, etc.)

 

Thanks,

Alex

[daobro]

Holy shit- I’ve had this nagging tension in my trapezius muscles since yesterday that I couldn’t get rid of. But after just 1 round of Bending the Bows it’s almost completely gone. 

[zen-bear]

On 4/4/2014 at 5:18 AM, Joolian said:

 

Hi Sifu Terry,

 

thank you very much for your answers! That has been helpful to me. I always enjoy reading your posts

 

Maybe I will substitute exercise #1 for the new one, because I don't have the time to do 4 exercises in the morning...But first I have to work on my morning sluggishness/sleepiness - because of it I do catch myself cutting the practice time down to 6 minutes per exercise :/ ... Should I first extend the practice time to a greater amount of time before learning a new exercise?

 

And, do I understand this correctly, that at some point in time others (non-practicioners) could also see my light?

 

Best,

Julian

Hello Julian,

 

I'm truly sorry that it's taken 11 years and 15 days to finally see your post for the first time and now answer your question about others being able to see your light.  I had missed and completely overlooked your posting that in the first week of April 2014  because that was precisely the time when I received the devastating news that the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear my appeal of lower California appeals courts and CA Supreme court decisions refusing to hear my Writ of Certiorari seeking a retrial of my lawsuit in California against Dreamworks Animation for stealing my story, concept and characters for MY original kung Fu panda concept, characters (13 main characters) , and pilot story called "The Adventures of Zen-Bear, the Kung Fu Panda" that I had begun in 1991 and worked on for 9 years before pitching my project to the No,2 executive at Dreamworks Animation, a senior V.P. who reported directly to the "K" in Dreamworks SKG, inc..  All the public information in the court record of the first trial--including all of  my intellectual property work product and other registered evidence and testimony about proving the primacy of my creation of my characters, original concept of a kung fu-fighting panda bear, and elaborated story involving 12 other animal characters for children's books, for mulitple seasons of an animated  TV series, and my movie idea is mounted on this website that I created in 2016:  

http://www.kungfupandalawsuit.com/Timeline_Hotspots_New.html

 I lost a veritable fortune starting in June 2010 to file this lawsuit (seeking minimum damages of $20 million for breach-of-implied-contract) and bring it to trial in July-Aug. of 2011, only to lose at trial by a hair due to public corruption and being out-lawyered and  by DWA's dirty tricks law firm, appealing to the CA Court of Appeals in 2013, tghe CA State Supreme Court the same year, and then the US Supreme Court in 2014--all to of no avail.  Thus I was buried in four years of legal bills, 4 full years of having all my creative business momentum brought to a standstill (because no one creative can be productive while in a lawsuit ag, a Hollywood film studio),  and suffering from  cumulative fallout from losing the first trial in August 2011, and then have 3 appeals all the way to the SCOTUS to be heard.  That said, I'm sorry I couldn't answer your question when in posted it 11 years ago and half a month ago.

 

But here now is the answer to  your question,  "And, do I understand this correctly, that at some point in time others (non-practitioners) could also see my light?":

 

• Yes, at some point in time, non-practitioners will be able to see the cumulative Flying Phoenix Healing Qi that you have steadily cultivated through your practice, which you call "your light"--even though most or all of them are not practitioners of Qigong or Yoga.

The very first kind and most common recognition by others (non-practitioners or "everyday people") of your FP yogic cultivation is their "seeing" your  very "clean" aura.  It often happens when you enter a public place like a restaurant or coffee shop, and almost every head in the room turns to look at you.  It's similar to the instinctive and instant turning ones head and upper body to look at a person that you have just sensed as having entered the room--especially if your back is facing the entrance.  All my FP Qigong students within their first six months of weekly classes (and regular daily practice) have sooner or later reported this head-turning phenomenon whenver they went to a public eatery right after class.  This phenomenon of  everyday people  seeing  "your light" is a very common and regular occurrence.

 

But the more background and experience any person has in any style of authentic Yoga, meditation, or quiescence, the greater potential he or she has of  instantly seeing your FP-charged aura---as a natural side-effect of their practice(s).

And you can be sure that whenever you began to see the distinctive, signature "blue light" that accompanies concentrated and long-ter FP Qigong practice,  more everyday people and certainly more yoga-meditation-qigong practitioners will be seeing your pristine blue-radiating aura.

I hope you've already discovered most of these features about Flying Phoenix Qigong that I've described.

Please let me know how your practice has progressed over the years and about the effect or impact that the FP Qigong has had on your life.

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry

 

 

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Edited April 19 by zen-bear

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

Hi all, spent a few days in the Jordanian desert and managed to film myself doing Long Form (quite badly unfortunately!). It’s too fast and has a few mistakes as I was too focused on not slipping and falling off the cliff, please @zen-bear could you help point them out so others can learn what not to do!

 

It was fun filming anyway, check it out!

 

 

 

[Miffymog]

2 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Hi all, spent a few days in the Jordanian desert and managed to film myself doing Long Form (quite badly unfortunately!). It’s too fast and has a few mistakes as I was too focused on not slipping and falling off the cliff, please @zen-bear could you help point them out so others can learn what not to do!

 

It was fun filming anyway, check it out!

 

 

 

 

I effing loved it!

 

And if you ever felt like posting any of the other meditations, DO IT!

 

(as long as Sifu Terry doesn’t mind, of course) 

 

 

[zen-bear]

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I will also be demonstrating Tao Tan Pai ("Taoist Elixir Method") Kung Fu and Qigong, created during the Tang Dynasty by its patron saint, Taoist Immortal Lu Tung Pin. Tao Tan Pai is a different ancient Taoist monastic tradition of Qigong & Kung fu unrelated to the Ehrmei Mountain Bok Fu Pai (White Tiger Style) Kung Fu, which was created in 1644 by Taoist monk Feng Do Duk.

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Edited Saturday at 03:15 PM by zen-bear

[zen-bear]

On 4/23/2025 at 3:30 AM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Hi all, spent a few days in the Jordanian desert and managed to film myself doing Long Form (quite badly unfortunately!). It’s too fast and has a few mistakes as I was too focused on not slipping and falling off the cliff, please @zen-bear could you help point them out so others can learn what not to do!

 

It was fun filming anyway, check it out!

 

 

 

Hi Pak_Satrio,

Great that you were able to practice the FP Long Form in the Jordanian desert.  It looks beautiful and inspiring.
Great that you've learned the sequence of postures for the entire Long Form--even though you have  numerous serious errors in the postures and in the transitions between them.  But memorizing the entire form that best you can is a very big first step.

 

BTW, until you get the FP Long Form fully corrected and refined, do NOT discontinue your practice of all the preceding 7 standing FP Meditations on volumes 1 and 3.

Here are my comments to correct and improve your form.
1.  First of all:  start with a slight wider horse stance (ma bu):  feet two shoulders' widths apart.

2.  At 24 secs., your right jab over the left bridge is extending too far--dont' straight the arm that much.

3.  At 28 secs, after the Rt. Willow leaf palm on centerline, when you shift left and rotate clockwise and curve the left arm:  you're lifting the arm too high and also straightening it.  Wrong.  Move your left hand from the tan tien and keep the hand at waist level as you shift left and rotate clockwise.

4.   then when you turn waist right and circle the left arm clockwise, the arm is supposed to be curved.  But you are nearly straightening the left arm AND turning too far to the right.  The back of your left hand faces the right normal (wrong); just rotate right until back of left hand faces the front right corner (45º).

5.  At 38 secs, as you lower left palm towards the right hand at the tan tian:  keep for fingers together and cup the left palm very slightly.  And float the hand and forearm down softly--don't "push" the palm down.

6.  Your movements from 1:07 to 1:24 require too, too much correction and refinement to put into words here.  We'll cover the necessary corrections in your next private lesson...or if you can take next 3-day (14-hour) Flying Phoenix Qigong Workshop on Zoom.

7.  Your movement starting at 2:26 to 2:33 is WAY OFF mark.  Not in the form at all.  You swing your chest to left knee, across to right knee and then immediately upright into the PRESS,  You added an entirely new move with arms fully extended ( 2:30 to 2:31) that's not in the classical  Meditation!.   It is a very creative and interesting addition though!
8.  When you do your two "Presses" (left palm on right wrist) from 2:32 to 2;40, you are leaning forward too much on each one. Keep you back vertical the entire time.

9.  From 2:47 to 3:23:   On your 5 outward blocks with the forearms (thumbside edge leading), these are the errors:

     A.   Your elbows are too high and your forearms are angled forward too "flat" away from the body.
     B.   Your hands are not high enough.  Fingertips should be slightly above eye-level and can be up to the level of your hairline.  (Watch any of my 3 Youtube videos of the FP Long Form as reference,)

     C.   How you switch from one blocking forearm to the other (after traversing it 180º) is WAY OFF--and too long to explain here in writing.  The major corrections needed here will require private lesson time.

• Pak_Satrio:   That's all I time and energy I can provide for your corrections on this site.  All the corrections above can be made more easily during  a Zoom session.

Good work, nonetheless, on memorizing the FP Long Form choreography.  Memorizing the Form is, of course, the essential first step.   As Master John Fey said to me after I demonstrated the 6 Harmonies/8 Methods (Liu He Ba Fa)  form in Pasadena, CA before a large audience during World Tai Chi Qigong Day in 1985 (I had just learned the form from Dr. York Why Loo):  "Well, at least you know a complete Form."   LOL.

But now lets' tackle the corrections whenever you're able.

Note to all FPCK subscribers--as Bill Maher puts it:   

NEW RULE:

Feel free to post links to your FP Long Form performances on this thread---BUT NOT BEFORE you post a video of your demonstration of "Moonbeam Splashes On Water" ( the 2nd moving meditation on Volume 3).  One must become proficient in "Moonbeam" through lots of practice and refinement before starting practice of the Vol.4  Long Form.
I know for a fact that not enough FP practitioners are mastering "Moonbeam" before starrting the FP Long Form --because there aren't any questions being posted here about the practice of that meditation. 

SO EVERYONE, GET BUSY ON MOONBEAM!

 

Sifu Terry

 

 

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Edited Monday at 03:00 PM by zen-bear

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

@zen-bear thank you for the feedback! Will keep on working on it. I will also try to film a Moonbeam video to post here too!

[Master Logray]

On 4/23/2025 at 3:30 PM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Hi all, spent a few days in the Jordanian desert and managed to film myself doing Long Form (quite badly unfortunately!). It’s too fast and has a few mistakes as I was too focused on not slipping and falling off the cliff, please @zen-bear could you help point them out so others can learn what not to do!

 

It was fun filming anyway, check it out!

 

 

 

 

 

You really look like an Arab, but with robes would be even better.

[DanC]

On 27/04/2025 at 8:38 PM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

@zen-bear thank you for the feedback! Will keep on working on it. I will also try to film a Moonbeam video to post here too!

 

A cool video would be you doing "Monk Serves Wine" in front of the great Pyramid of Giza