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@Cleansox Thanks for your response I feel like we're having a good exchange. It's only sensible to go with what feels to be more in tune with one's body and energy, I just wanted to share my own experience. Be blessed!

@Master Logray as long as it is comfortable, and doesn't leave you feeling out of breath. In the beginning it's only a few seconds. Later, you can hold your breath comfortably for several minutes at a time, while you're in a meditative state during the exercise. @virtue @Cleansox @Master Logray Breathing is related to the qi. Let me give you a basic, western example, just to make it more relatable. If you take a trained athlete, they will have more energy than an untrained person. Why? 1) Because they have more qi, 2) Because they have more blood. Blood is the mother of qi. If you get more blood, it will birth more qi. Qi is the commander of blood. It helps the blood circulate more effeciently. Qi without blood will over time die out. Blood without qi will not circulate will and reach all tissues. Someone who runs a lot will have more blood. Therefore they'll have more qi (compared to an untrained person). Furthermore, their stores of glycogen in the liver and muscles will be larger. That means they can store more glucose (sugar), i.e. more energy from their food in their bodies. Breath and food is always mentioned as some of the main sources of qi. If you can store more energy from your food, you have more energy. If you have bigger, stronger lungs as well as more blood, you'll also have more energy. Someone who can hold their breath for a long time (who holds their breath regularly) will also have build up more blood than a regular, untrained person. It's a training adaptation, just like running or swimming. Therefore they'll have more qi as well. Even from a normal, everyday western perspective, we all know that physically trained people have more energy and blood. I completely agree that one should be sensible and progessive in holding their breath. As always it's not black and white, it's nuanced. It's not "holding one's breath is the devil" or "holding your breath is God". It's more nuanced than that. Holding your breath can provide great benefits - if done right (in a sensible, progressive manner). I'm sure you can also damage yourself, if you don't do it sensibly. That's similar to everything else in our life; e.g. driving a car is a blessing, it takes us efficiently from A to B. Driving a car can also get you killed. However, we don't go around spouting "cars are the devil" or "cars are God". It's simply a tool. If used correctly, it's a blessing. If used incorrectly, it can get you killed. I just wanted to nuance the debate about breath holding a bit, as well as de-mystify it (with an everyday, western, relatable example). I hope it's clear my point of writing on this forum is sharing knowledge and experience, and not fighting or ridiculing others' point of view. I try to make sure every post has a point; it has knowledge and experience, or it has a nuancing of something viewed in a black and white manner. May you all be blessed

@Cleansox Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences! Regarding semen and women's cultivation: for women it's blood. Some chinese teachers say "jing, qi and shen" for men, yet "xue, qi and shen" for women (xue is blood). This is to specifically state that women lose jing through blood, e.g. through menstruation and pregnancy. If you've had different girlfriends in your lifetime, you will have noticed they menstruate very differently. I've had girlfriends that menstruate lightly for 2-3 days, and it barely affects their mood, energy levels etc. Then I've had girlfriends that bleed heavily for 5-7 days, and they're completely miserable on all levels; physically, emotionally and mentally. Why is there this difference in menstruation? Firstly, each individual has a unique bodily system. However, it's also health related. The healthier a woman is, the less of a toll her menstruation will take on her. This is something that can be improved with cultivation. That's why they say "xue, qi and shen" to women (some teachers, not all). It's the same for men regarding semen. Everyone is different in their level of semen production and sexual desire. Some can ejaculate a thousand times a day, and it never hurts them. Other people can ejaculate once in a blue moon and get dark under the eyes, get suicidal and depressed, and feel completely lethargic for days. So each individual body is different. However, it can always be improved with cultivation. So the principles are identical for both men and women, it's just a different emphasis, jing/semen vs xue/blood. @freeform Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree to a certain extent that forced breath holding done wrong is not necessarily ideal. However, I don't agree about how you say it unmistakenly will damage and deplete you over time. I agree with what you say about jing, that both blood, tears, secretions, cerebrospinal fluid etc are all related to jing. If something is related to jing, it means if you take care of it, you're indirectly also caring for your jing. Since they're related. Regarding blood loss, e.g. through donation, this is quite rare, and definitively within our control. Shedding tears is an activity that only happens every once in a while, and from my perspective not enough to waste away our jing. Similarly, loss of cerebrospinal fluid only happens after an accident, or in case of medical tests or certain operations. However, semen is particular in this regard. It's a surplus product that's habitually "evacuated" willingly. If you waste it away, you're unecessarily eating away at your jing (since semen is related to our jing, just like you also mentioned). That's the only reason I'm specifically mentioning semen, since it's related to our jing, and it's something most willingly waste away to an unecessary degree. If done in a healthy manner, it's all fine and dandy. However, it's one of the things related to jing we can actually control, and by making sure we do it in a healthy manner, it will help guard our jing. Which is good.

@EFreethought I learnt genital weightlifting, lovemaking etc in person (yes, this was an adventure in and of itself..) I learnt all of Master Wu's qigong in person. Spring Forest Qigong I've learnt the first 3 levels online (I bought the bundle). Jiang Yu Shan (Hisham al Haroun) I've bought the online program and have also spoken with him one-on-one via zoom. Simplified Kundalini Yoga I've learnt everything in person, one-on-one, with direct energy transmissions (first through touch, then the eyes, and latest through the mind).

@freeform thanks for sharing your thoughts!!! I agree, in the books, in the classes, it's very seldom anyone talks about the importance of breath holding. From my limited understanding, studies and experience, it's because it's actually one of the secret, key ingredients to internal alchemy. It's seems very simple, almost too simple,. However, from my point of view, it's a treasure hiding in plain sight. Yes, I agree, the yogic vs the qigong vs the neigong approach aim at the same target, harmony with everything and everyone, however, they work towards that aim in a little bit different manners. They share similar principles though (from my point of view), e.g. using the body, the breath, mantras and the mind, and of course upright moral conduct. Yes, jing! It's quite the subject I agree, saying that jing simply equals sperm is an oversimplification. However, from where I see it, sperm is very much related to one's jing. After all, the source of our own life is the joining of the jing of our mother and father in the moment of conception, the sperm and the egg. From that original source of jing, we've built up everything. So, sperm and eggs have the power to create new life. From my perspective, it makes sense to be aware of this valuable treasure hiding inside our genital organs.

That was my understanding of what you wrote. Feel free to correct me. As always, it's the author who knows the exact intended message. Be blessed

@virtue you're of course welcome to have your own opinion and feeling about my writing. I think it's always most beneficial to look at the point of something, the message of it. My message is: holding the breath is a part of tibetan buddhist practice. Your message is: holding the breath is a part of tibetan buddhist practice. So, we actually completely agree on the fundamental message: holding the breath is important. The only thing we can then discuss (if you wish) is whether they do it "a lot" like I firstly mentioned, or whether "it's not common at all" like you mentioned in your post. "A lot" vs "it's not common at all" is of course relative, so I don't feel any need for discussing this further. The reason being, that we agree on the fundamental point, whereas it's merely the adjective we could discuss further. Furthermore, you mentioned muscle locks. Yes, it's true, this is very important in both qigong and yoga, also tibetan buddhist practices. Regarding free divers, due to breath work and calming the mind, they could be viewed as pretty good yogis if you ask me. So, again, it's relative to one's definition of "a yogi". Is it someone with good control of their body, breath and mind? Then a free diver is definitively a stronger yogi than an average person. If a "yogi" is someone who's one with the Universe, God, the Divine, Dao, Brahman, The Cosmic Soul, The Void, The Emptiness, Shunya, then yes, I completely agree with you; we cannot know that from simply observing their breath holding while submerged in the ocean. So, it all comes down to one's definition of things. How I define "a lot" and how you define "not common at all". How I define "a yogi" and how you define "a yogi" (free divers being the investigated case). Personally, one of the definitions of yoga I really like is "harmony". How to be in harmony with everything and everyone. Harmony between body, breath and mind, between oneself and one's family, collegues, society, and in the end all living beings.

@Jaba Yes, exactly. In the beginning it's very short intervals (a couple of seconds). Later you can be in a meditative state while also holding your breath for longer periods (up to several minutes). I know the tibetan buddhists also practice this a lot.

@Jaba Yes! It can be. Just to clarify what I mean by holding your breath: yes, 4 phases of breathing, 1) breathing in, 2) holding your breath with your lungs full of air, 3) breathing out, 4) holding your breath with your lungs completely empty, 5) repeat Standing on one leg for a prolonged time (just as an example) puts tremendous strain on your circulatory system. This alone can make even young and healthy people faint. When you add holding your breath (both with full lungs and empty lungs), this can make people pass out and fall over. Simply standing in place in a particular posture for just 5-10 minutes without movement can also make you pass out. So that's also why it's not emphasized in the usual qigong health class; it can make people faint. When you do the repeated breath holds, you should never feel "out of breath". Furthermore, if you ever feel faint, you should immediately breathe normally and sit down. If very serious, lay down on your back with your legs in the air (to make the blood flow back down to the organs and brain). I had to do this several times during a 4 day intensive workshop. I was very strong and healthy at the time, but I was about to pass out from holding my breath several times. When we worked on the Liver/Gallbladder system I got extremely nauseous and was also close to both vomiting and passing out. I had to sit down for quite some time to rest, because it was just too much. So always be humble and take a sensible, progressive approach

Hi @Rakiel, Thanks for your message Yes of course. Chunyi Lin mentions that there are 4 ways to cultivate, activate and manipulate energy: 1) Body 2) Breath 3) Mantras / sound 4) Mind The small universe in SFQ uses especially 1) the mind and 2) mantras to open and circulate the small universe. It's done in a seated position. Building the lower dan tien and opening the microcosmic orbit or small universe is something every single system of qigong I've ever tried focuses on. What's good about SFQ is that mantras are very powerful, so they will activate and get your energy moving. Over time, when you have practiced it daily for a longer period, the channels "get used" to being open and circulated. Another advantage in SFQ is that because you're in a relaxed, seated position, it's doesn't matter if you're elderly, sick, have bad knees etc. Everyone can do the practice and benefit from it. Compare this to other more strenous, standing, more body oriented methods, and there's a definitive advantage in SFQ. Personally I can feel the vibrations of the qi as I focus my mind on the different energy spots and say the mantras. I can also see/sense the color of the energy. I can also see/sense if some places are more blocked than others, or more open. Finally I can also see/sense the strength of the energy. My perception of energy (being able to firstly sense it as pulsating vibrations, and later being able to see it) started with Simplified Kundalini Yoga (I've written about it in another post). Later when I started qigong, it was very handy to be able to sense the qi as it moves about the body during different exercises. Then you can truly sense which teachers give strong qi transmission, and of course which exercises really work for your body and energy. I personally really like SFQ.

@EFreethought @virtue I cannot speak for others' experiences with Spring Forest Qigong and third eye experiences. However, I can share my own. Opening the third eye is like growing a new organ. Just like your 5 physical senses can do different things, the energetic senses can also do different things. Just like your interpretation of reality (as perceived through your 5 senses) is dependent on your mind, similarly, your interpretation of the energetic reality (as perceived through your energetic 5 senses, including the third eye) is dependent on your mind. Your mind is built up of structures. These structures are created in an interaction with the physical world. After receiving life-long inputs from the outside world through your 5 senses, you've built up a mental idea about the world inside your mind. As you go through new sense experiences, these are then interpreted based on the structures already present in your mind. Therefore you can expose two people to exactly the same, identical physical sense-experience, however, they will interpret it completely different. Why? Due to the different structures in their mind. However, we can always get feedback and correction about any sense-experience we acquire, as most people more or less share the same physical sense perception. These corrections lead to people acquiring a "consensus-reality". This consensus-reality is then shared amongst people of similar race, culture, religion, belief system etc. When we enter into the non-physical realm (i.e. Qi, energy), it's much more difficult to get feedback and correction about the interpretation of our energetically-sensed experiences. This is because the number of people with energetic sense perception is less, and on top of that, their range of energetic sense perception differs. Therefore, they might also perceive an identical phenomenon completely different. Say, one has a range of 10% energetic perception, the other has a range of 60% energetic perception. Their sense-perception will differ. Therefore it's extremely important to be close to a guiding teacher you can trust when opening up these senses, so they can guide and correct you, making sure you stay in contact with reality, both physically and energetically. As we hear about others perceiving things outside our own perceptional range, it's only healthy to take these experiences with a grain of salt. Take your own perception of reality as your guide, and if there are people you truly trust, you can also consider their perception. In my own experience, yes, Spring Forest Qigong can open your third eye and allow you to perceive energy, channels, organs, auras and dis-incarnated souls. However, other styles of qigong and meditation can do the same. Just like bodybuilding, gymnastics, weightlifting and swimming can all develop your physical muscles. Similarly, this or that style of qigong and meditation can develop your energy. They might go about it slightly differently, but the end result is somewhat similar. A bodybuilders muscle mass, a gymnast, a weightlifter, a swimmer, they all have muscles, but their muscular frame, proportions and physical capacity is slightly different. It's the same with different systems of qigong and meditation. This was quite the rant, I simply tried to clarify some of the more "mystical" things of qigong in a logical manner. Feel free to ask questions, give comments, share your own thoughts and feelings if you have any. Be blessed

Hi @EFreethought thanks for your question Yes, I've practiced meditation and qigong a lot, it's been a major part of my life. I've practiced 4 different styles over the past 7 years. First genital weight lifting and the accompanying qigong, meditation and lovemaking practices for 2 years full-on, whereafter I put it on the backburner. I wrote about this in my post on genital weight lifting. I've now resumed it 1-2x/week for 10-20 minutes just to maintain. Secondly, I came into contact with Master Wu's qigong, which I've practiced for 5 years daily (and still counting). This has been my mainstay qigong practice. Thirdly, I came into contact with Spring Forest Qigong. This was for 2 reasons: 1) I personally resonated really well with Master Chunyi Lin's open, smiling, humble and compassionate personality. 2) Furthermore, he spoke openly about deeper meditation experiences, as well as the third eye, auras and the more spiritual side of qigong. This has been for the past 2 years. Fourthly, I heard about Jiang Yu Shan about a year ago. He had a very different style from the others, so in a spirit of curiosity, I decided to experiment with it. It's been a couple of months now. After so many years of daily practice, I wanted to share my experiences. When I was investigating all these styles of qigong, I thought it was very difficult to find and get clear guidance, and most importantly personal experiences with these styles. Either you find nothing, or you find nay-sayers completely dissing it in a one-sided manner, or you find the fans, who worship it, also in a completely one-sided manner. So, in accord with karma, I decided to give to others, what I myself would have wanted. My hope is to save others from uneccessary blood, sweat and tears, as well as being trapped in the chinese teaching mentality of withholding information, not explaining and answering questions, and not always guiding the pupil through different challenges, but instead mindlessly preaching the phrase "just practice". I got hurt from this mentality and lack of guidance. My body, my qi, my energy, my health, everything. Therefore I wish to share my experiences with others, and be available to answer questions, not in a one-sided manner, but in a nuanced and realistic way. I wish everyone who reads this all the best! Be blessed

Hey Virtue, I've done Spring Forest Qigong for a couple of years. Nope, no McDonald's side effects But feel free to ask any questions, then I'll see what I can do to answer them I always thought it was nice to be able to pick someone else's brain about a system, when considering for oneself whether to try out that system. Be blessed!

To his defense, he also has begun making "donation-based" online practices during the pandemic to help people out. Furthermore, from stories he's told, in his beginning years of learning qigong, he did many healings and teachings completely for free. But yes, like you said @virtue it's definitively something to be aware of. That's why I included it in my experience; to help guide others to make the best choices for themselves That's what I think makes the best "my experience of" posts. To give as nuanced and as objective as possible descriptions, to help others out.

Dear Dao bums, a small update: What I've noticed with herbs and sexual function is the following (for me personally, i.e. my personal energetic constitution): When I strengthen my heart, heart blood and heart qi, I get bigger, thicker and warmer erections. When I strengthen my liver, liver blood and liver qi, I am able to maintain "full size" erections for longer. When I strengthen my kidneys, kidney qi and bladder qi, I am able to last longer in bed without having the urge to ejaculate. From K'an herbs, these are some of the formulas I have used: "Passion potion", this one strengthens kidney yin and yang, blood and blood circulation. This one gives me bigger, stronger, thicker and harder erections. And it works on the same day. I feel it's the "he shou wu" (polygonum multiflorum) which strengthens blood circulation, and the "yin yang huo" (herba epemidi). These two in combination gives me bigger erections. "Tonify qi", this one makes me able to last much, much longer with no problems. I feel it's the "eleuthero root" that strengthens kidney and bladder qi. "Strengthen fire". This strengthens the heart and gives me bigger and warmer erections. "Strengthen wood". This makes me able to maintain the full size erection all throughout the lovemaking session, without the erection size, hardness and strength going down with time due to lack of blood circulation power. My best combination is passion potion for huge erections, and tonify qi for being able to last longer. My only problem is that it dries up the yin and fluids, so I have to balance it out with some yin herbs, e.g. rehmannia and or tremella. Please note, my personal constition is: Kidney yin and jing is my biggest weakness. Spleen qi is my second biggest weakness. Blood and blood circulation is my third biggest weakness. Weak kidneys are what makes liver herbs so effective for me. Because water generate wood, kidneys strengthen liver. Because my kidneys are weak, this weakens my liver slightly. Therefore liver strengthening herbs are very effective (as the liver is already weakened) Weak spleen qi makes my digestion and conversion of food to qi and blood sub-optimal. Because of that, my blood is weak. Furthermore, my heart is weakened from strengthening my spleen, as Fire generates Earth, heart strengthens spleen. That is why heart and blood herbs work so well for me (as the heart is weakened from supporting a weak spleen, and my conversion of food to blood is weak due to weak spleen). Therefore, the above herbs affect my system in the ways described. It could be disatrous for your own personal constitution, so make sure you consult someone knowledgeable in chinese medecine before you take any herbs.

Furthermore, if anyone feels like trying out genital weight lifting, but are mindful of potential risk, this is what I would recommend: 1) Don't do anything with the testicles, unless you get supervised guidance by a certified/trained teacher! 2) What I would instead recommend is tying a weight of 250g-500g (approx. 0.5 - 1lbs) around 1-2cm (0.5-1 inch) behind your penis head. If you don't have a weight, use a small water bottle that is either half full or completely full (making it 250g-500g or ca. 0.5-1lbs). With the small weight securely tied, you stand completely still, and by squeezing/sucking up only your genital muscles, you will make the weight/bottle rock back and forth. You do a max of 100 repetitions. Then you untie the weight, and massage your penis head by "rolling it" between your hands. With the weight being so extremely light, there is absolutely no risk of injury. I started out myself with a bag of flour in a plastic bag it was about 400g (almost 0.5 lbs). The first couple of times, you need to get the mind muscle connection. After that, you really start building muscle strength. On top of that, the penis itself gets stretched, and with training you fill it up with blood during the exercise (due to the muscle contractions). Muscle strength, penis stretch and increased blood circulation all lead to more sexual power, bigger, harder and thicker erections and improved endurance in bed.

If anyone is thinking about starting sexual qigong, but don't know how to start, or are afraid it's too risky, this is what I would recommend to start with: 1) "stop the urination" exercise, where you squeeze your genital muscles until the urge to pee stops. Then you restart. You do this 2-3 times in a single "session". Do it only once or twice a week, otherwise it can annoy your bladder. 2) Once you've learned to squeeze the muscles during urination, squeeze for time (naked in front of a mirror). As a man, you can visibly see your testicles getting "sucked up" and staying sucked up as long as you hold the squeeze. Hold your breath while squeezing. 3) Massage your testicles in the following way: grab all of your package, and circle them around 36 times each direction.

I would like to ask people about their ideas; what is the karma for prostitution? 1) What caused the prostitute to become a prostitute? 2) What karma does the prostitute get from selling sexual services? 3) What karma does the people who buy sexual services from a prostitute get?

Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and perspectives! It's very interesting to hear different people's thoughts on such a controversial subject

Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts, feelings and commentaries! Don't anyone feel like analysing the karmas for both the prostitute and client? Don't be shy, it's nothing about shaming, judging or telling others what to do, or what's right or wrong, it's simply a neutral, curious and intellectual analysis of the laws of the universe what we send out we shall again receive, that's the law of karma. 1) What caused the prostitute to become a prostitute?2) What karma does the prostitute get from selling sexual services?3) What karma does the people who buy sexual services from a prostitute get?

@Jaba thanks for the links! And thanks for your interesting questions Lovemaking time I live a completely normal life, going to work, seeing friends and family, and coming home in the afternoon. So I meditate in the morning, qigong when I get back home and in general need to fit my cultivation into a normal life. So! The time spent in lovemaking varies depending on my weekly schedule. In the weekends one can spend a lot of time, many times a day. However, during a normal work week it's usually once a day, and the time varies from as short as 15-20 minutes to several hours. It depends on the mood and the time available Energy affecting the neighbourhood If one's energy gets very strong, then yes, it will influence people close to you and the ones living close to your house. If one has good, strong, healthy energy, it's a benefit to all living beings you come into contact with Special / secret pills or herbs Unfortunately, I have not learnt about herbs from any of my teachers. However, I regularly look at my own tongue, take my pulse, see how my organs feel during qigong, and then eat herbs based on that. Nothing secret however, just standard chinese medicine practice. My own personal favorite herbs and mushrooms so far, which seem to benefit my individual body very strongly are: astragalus (huang qi), (strengthens qi, the spleen and lungs, drains dampness), polygonum multiflorum (he shou wu), (increase and improve blood circulation), chaga (a mushroom, this is very harmonizing for my body, slightly cooling and strengthens the shen), salvia (cooling, good for the heart and strengtens blood circulation), tremella (mushroom, cooling, strengthens yin, produces fluid, nourishes the brain and testicles), eclipta, good for the liver, blood and yin. Those are just some examples. However, I usually eat herbs in already made formulas. E.g. by K'an Herbs, Sage Solutions, Myco Herb etc. My innate weaknesses are especially jing. My innate qi and shen are quite good. So, I try to strengthen my jing. Furthermore, my blood, blood circulation, spleen qi and kidneys (both yang, yin and qi) need attention, and my liver needs some extra circulation (otherwise I easily get liver stagnation, which over time produces heat in my system). Gay lovemaking This is something I know absolutely nothing about. So, I can't share anything in this regard. Sexual kung fu and warming up Yes, you always do a "warm up" before swinging. This consists of breathing, holding your breath, muscle contractions and very importanly: massage exercises. Sucking up fluids with the penis This is something I have heard a lot about, and have seen done in India. However, it's not something I myself have practiced. But it is a genuine and valid sexual kung fu skill, and I know it's a part of the traditional curriculum if you learn sexual kung fu. Erections Yes, with training, one can firstly eliminate or strongly reduce an erection through muscle control. Later, one can circulate one's qi with muscle contractions and breathing, and thereby regulate the erection. At the highest level, one can through mind power alone make the erection go up or down. Celibacy This is a very good question! Some teachers clam celibacy is ultimate, some claim lovemaking is ultimate, others claim that it doesn't matter. I have personally experimented back and forth between: 1) complete celibacy and no ejaculation, 2) ejaculation every single time (whether sex or masturbation) and finally 3) both sex and masturbation, but regulation of ejaculation. I have been celibate for 6 months with no sex and no masturbation. My own findings and experimentation so far, have led me to the conclusion, that for my body, energy and mind, number 3 is best. As much sex and masturbation as desired, but a regulation of ejaculation. Completely celibacy strengthens your qi and shen incredibly, and very fast. If you do it in meditation retreats, it's very helpful. It improves your mind power. However, for me personally, it started to weaken my prostate and erection power after about 3-4 months. Ejaculating every single time feels awesome and great, and it's good for the prostate, however, you don't build up your "power" as much. Therefore, my own experimentation has led me to number 3, free sex and masturbation, but a regulation of ejaculation. That's my personal experiment. I advise everyone to experiment for themselves, because each body, each energy system, each mind and each unique soul is different. So, what's good for someone could be disastrous for someone else. Chakras Which chakras get activated depends on the persons. For some, sex only activates their first chakra, because it's only a physical act. For others, if they're more playful and creative, the second also gets activated. If they're very powerful, have knowledge of sexual techniques and think about these, the third could also get activated. If they're loving, romantic and poetic, the fourth is also activated. If they speak and express themselves freely during the act, the fifth also get activated. If they can see auras and energies, the sixth is also active during the act. If they become one with the Divine (God, the Universe) during the act, the seventh also opens. So, it depends on the persons involved, and what they do. Sexual kung fu and longevity I actually think lovemaking is one of the best longevity practices. It balances the yin and yang and strengthens the jing (through the sexual fluids and saliva exchange). But this is of course only if done "correctly", i.e. regulation of ejaculation and alongside cultivation (qigong, herbs and meditation). Sucking sexual energies Sucking sexual energies can make you EXTREMELY powerful, and very, very, very quickly. HOWEVER!! Don't do it it's like robbing a bank. Yes, you get rich FAST and EASY. However, due to karma, you'll suffer later. If you drain others, you yourself will get drained in the future. You can try it, but it will come back quickly (karmically). So I wouldn't recommend it Why suck energy from plants, animals or other human beings? They have only limited energy, and their energy is not necessarily 100% pure. Instead, meditate on God (or the Dao, the Universe) and gain energy from a source which is unlimited, with the purest possible energy. That's what my own experimentation has shown me so far. Restoring yuan qi Some claim yuan qi can never be replenished, it can only be "guarded" (through herbs and correct life style). Others claim yuan qi CAN be replenished and restored (through herbs, correct life style and most importantly cultivation). I personally do believe (as a man), if you cultivate AND protect your semen (within reasonable limits), that extra semen will help replenish you over time. Whatever the case, one thing is certain: through correct sleep, diet, cultivation, herbs and life style, we can all improve

@jaba Tantra, sexual kung fu and lovemaking as a system Yes, tantra, sexual kung fu and lovemaking can be a complete spiritual system in itself Sperm and saliva Regarding saliva and sperm: yes, when you enter higher and higher states of ecstasy in lovemaking, and circulate the energy in your body, the saliva and sperm will taste different. It will taste sweet if in a very refined state. Spirits Spirits can also be used, yes. However, I have not personally learnt about this with lovemaking, nor used it with lovemaking. But I do know that altar offerings, incense, prayers and mantras should usually be recited for 49 days, alongside the qigong practice. If done for 49 days, you become "friends" with the specific lineage masters and spirits. Then they will always come and help you when you practice, or if you pray for their help. In higher stages, you can speak to them in dreams, or at even higher stages when the 3rd eye is open, you can directly see them and talk to them. Firstly in the night time, but at later stages also during day time. Kundalini and chakras In one understanding, kundalini shakti is simply life force energy, or qi. In this frame of mind, kundalini is indeed used in sexual kung fu. This is because the sperm and the blood is the physical container for life force energy (kundalini / qi). By holding your breath, over time you get more blood. This will produce more qi. Similarly, if you do the sexual qigong exercises, you will produce more sperm. This in turn makes you have more qi. The chakras used and strengthened in sexual qigong is the muladhara or root chakra, and the swadisthana or sacral/genital chakra. Especially the swadisthana chakra becomes exceptionally strong and powerful in people who do swinging as well as retain sperm. If one is clairvoyant and can see auras, energies and chakras, seeing someone who swings weights and retain semen, they will have a bigger and more powerful swadisthana chakra than even any strong, healthy, horny teenager. Please feel free to ask more questions about the chakras and kundalini, if you want to. This is something I have not shared so much about in this thread yet Thanks for your great questions!

@Papayapple thanks for your comment! Yes, people get lovemaking super advanced very quickly. Let me give some very short pointers for lovemaking, sexual qigong and sexual meditation respectively. The shortest possible explanation of lovemaking I can give is: 1) the man should become more "yin" (loving and soft, spending more time on foreplay, kissing, caressing and focusing on her pleasure and satisfaction) 2) the woman should become more "yang" (active, enthusiastic, involved, she should completely let go and surrender physically, emotionally and mentally, and lose herself in the playfulness, love and affection of a free and overt sexuality) 3) mastering the physical techniques of foreplay, kissing, hugging and caressing is the first thing. Then the different positions, their variations and how to smoothly switch between them is the second thing. Ending the session lovingly is the third thing (by hugging, holding each other and sweet talking each other). 4) The psychological aspect is the most neglected; the man should stimulate the woman with sweet and dirty talk all throughout. Talking is what most people don't do naturally, but it's the easiest to stimulate each other. The shortest possible explanation of sexual qigong I can give is: 1) Through muscle contractions, breath holding and swinging (with the weight swinged increased over time), your sexual strength increases 2) With increased strength the man gets a bigger and stronger erection and can last much longer 3) With increased strength the woman gets wet and aroused faster and easier, and her orgasms are easier to achieve, and become more powerful and healing The shortest possible explanation of sexual meditation I can give is: 1) Both should be at a very high level of development in physical training and control, breath holding and control, and lastly they should be very, very good in meditation. Otherwise true sexual meditation is quite difficult. This is because in order to meditate sexually, the man should be able to attain an erection by "entering the emptiness" state in meditation. Just like a man wakes up with an erection. This is because we go into the emptiness in deep sleep. When you can achieve this state in meditation, and have sexual qigong strength, you'll also get an erection during meditation. You should then be able to have the woman insert the erect penis into herself, WITHOUT coming out of your state of deep meditation. As you can understand, this is a very high level. I am good in meditation and sexual qigong, but I still cannot do this after 7 years of daily meditation, 5 years of sexual qigong and lovemaking, and 4 years of regular qigong. I tried to make it short, concise and precise, but the last one got a bit lengthy Feel free to ask any other questions or make any other comments, share your thoughts about this very interesting subject

I just searched for "Martinus and sex", and I found a very interesting post on Quora According to this, prostitutes must fall under the "B - category" of people. Which type do you think they are? I think the people visiting prostitutes could be both B, C D, and E people. Of course the F and G people could also visit prostitutes. But H, I, J and K people... I don't think they could ever visit a prostitute.

I've consulted my most preferred "saint" on the science of karma, the Danish mystic Martinus. He lived from 1890-1981. In the 60s, during the sexual revolution and culmination of hippie-sex culture, someone actually asked him at a Q&A in Sweden. It was in 1968 in Varnhem Sweden. Here is the original transcript, I'll put an English translation below: "SPG: Er prostitution godt for seksuelt hungrende mennesker? SVAR af MARTINUS: ”Ja, det er det sikkert… [stor latter]” ”Ja, jeg ville nu ikke gøre det… [fortsat stor latter]” ”Nej, men øh.. prostitution… jaaa.. kan man sige.. øhh” ”Hvis denne prostitution, hvis den, øh, ikke berører andre mennesker end de to personer selv, øh, hvis den ikke skaber sorg og lidelser hos andre mennesker osv, så, og det ikke er gift, det ikke er et menneske der bryder troskab osv, så kan jeg jo ikke se at, øh, andet end de må selv om det” ”At de tager penge for det, det må de jo så selv bestemme [latter]” ”Hvis ikke prostitutionen var, så mange, mange, ja mange, normale… hvad kan man sige.. pæne kvinder ikke kunne eksistere, så ville der være voldtægter, en hel masse, jaa, jeg mener det er en meget stor sikkerhedsventil alt sådan noget, med prostitutionen.” ”Og det er jo sikkert en nødvendighed for tiden, det må være nødvendigt, men det er jo ikke noget jeg kan anbefale man skal give sig til at være [latter]” Here is the English translation: "Question: Mr Martinus, is prostitution good for the people who crave sex?" "Answer: Yes, most probably... [everyone erupts into enormeous laughter]" "Well, yes, I myself wouldn't do it" [everyone continues laughing]" "If this prostitution, if it doesn't touch the lives of others than to two people actually doing it... If it doesn't create hurt and suffering among other people.. E.g. if one is married or in committed relationship... As long as people are not breaking vows, promises or cheating on a spouse or partner... I can't say anything else, than it's simply a matter between these two people" "And if they decide to charge money.. Well, that's up for them to decide! [everyone laughs]" "If there was no prostitution, with all our beloved, devoted and innocent women... I'm afraid there would be massive rape.. I actually think prostitution is a big safety valve for the society": "I guess it's probable a necessary evil in this day and age, it must be a kind of necessity in our societiy.." "However, it's not something I would recommend! [everyone laughs]" Martinus was an elderly gentleman of about 70 years at this point. Hence the great laughter. Everyone found it suprising that a respectable elderly man, who taught spirituality, could be so humorous about such a serious topic. Also to be said, is that in that period in Denmark (the 60s), there was no woman trafficking like there is today (with women from Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia being trafficked and taken advantage of by pimps and criminals under threat of violence). Therefore the prostitutes were of a different kind, not being beaten, sold, threatened, used or controlled using violence. They chose it of their own free will, as an easy way to make money. Personally, these are my own thoughts: 1) Why does a woman become a prostitute? If she is caught, threatened and forced into making money for someone else, she has herself in a previous lifetime used and forced others. This could be slavery, or simply people living in primitive societies with maids or servants working under very bad conditions. If she chooses it of her own free will, it's simply because she feels it's an easy way to make money. 2) The karma a prostitute gets for selling sexual services Her desire for sex will over time morph. If done for many decades, this could cause her to have an unusually high sex drive in the next life time. Further, it could make her become to speculative and manipulating about making money, using contacts etc in either this or the next life. However, if she gives out pleasure and satisfaction physically, she is karmically bound to receive that. However, with money being charged, that equalizes it somewhat. 3) The karma for visiting a prostitute The person visiting the prostitute, is using the prostitute's somewhat disadvantaged situation (she needs to sell her body for money), in order to satisfy his own physical desire. If there was no money involved, she would not of her free will have sex with him. Therefore, the karma must be, that the person visiting prostitutes will in the future encounter a similar situation. He/she will be in a disadvantaged situation, where someone else will use this disadvantaged situation, to extract something they want from them, even though they would never give this thing of their own free will.