How should Christians address evil?

[Sanity Check]

 

Many view clashes between good and evil the way they would an action sequence from a John Wick movie.

 

 

They believe christians should pursue militant action to defeat evil. In the way kings of israel smote the philistines and laid waste to the lands of their enemies. They believe religions like christianity would best be perpetuated through ages old might makes right.

 

Yet in reading the bible, there are occasions where it might be said God Himself waged wars of genocide against the evil and wicked.

 

Noah and his family were selected to survive the Great Flood which drowned the evil and corrupt.

 

The city of Sodom and Gamorrah was smitten by fire as there could not be found 10 moral citizens who lived within the city.

 

In the aftermath of these events, there was no reduction of evil & corruption in the world. And it seems that God relented from pursuing further genocide against evil.

 

This indicates that evil and corruption cannot directly be fought with a sword or gun. Evil is circumstantial to some degree. Even if it were possible to push a button that would end the lives of the most evil people on earth. The circumstances which partly contributed to those people becoming evil would remain. These circumstances would drive others to eventually replace them. Nothing would change.

 

Eliminating the most evil could also carry severe negative effects in terms of the general public becoming more complacent and entitled. In the way that prey animals regress their survival instincts in the absence of predators.

 

Prospects of evil being circumstantial in nature are illustrated by King David in the bible. As a shepherd David might never have dreamed of doing what he did to Uriah the Hittite. As a king with power and authority however, it has been said that money and power change people. 

 

Money and power are a slippery slope which have lead to even the best of us unwittingly committing horrific acts of evil.

 

At some point in time we might acknowledge swords and guns are not best methods to address this.  Those methods are only temporary at best. What we are searching for is a permanent and lasting method of addressing evil. 

 

The bible gives us many insights and ideas about how evil might be addressed. 

 

It might even be said that the bible gives us all of the answers. 

 

Edited October 3 by Sanity Check

[zerostao]

Let’s look at The Flood, and every culture from every corner of Earth acknowledges this event. The animals were loaded two by two onto some vessel, and while they were on board, physically, at least, perhaps not morally. It rained forty days and forty nights, and it must have been torrential and forcefully falling rain in buckets and barrels. The Animals were well aware of what was going on. Every creature they knew and loved, everything they knew and loved, their entire world was being forcefully and violently drowned. How Traumatic is that?

In the immediate aftermath of that, these terrorized creatures see a Rainbow for the first time and are provided with its intended message: that God would never destroy Earth again by water.

That is one helluva caveat, eh? I think it can be just as easily viewed as a looming threat,  Promise.

[zerostao]

Let's look at John Wick.

"John Wick is often described as a "lone wolf" due to his solitary nature and immense combat skill, reminiscent of classic Westerns, but this is a simplification of his character. While he acts independently in much of his fighting, he actively relies on and builds a network of loyal friends, enemies, and even former adversaries who provide him with crucial support, weapons, and strategic assistance, demonstrating that relationships are a core element of his success."

 

The Powers that ought not be promote the Lone Wolf concept to encourage a mentality of Trust No One. They have emphasized for decades that defending against Lone Wolves is highly challenging for them.

If defending against Lone Wolves is difficult for those in power, confronting well-coordinated networks would be even more challenging for them. In recent years, these Powers have revealed their true intentions, notably while enforcing mask mandates.  (Ironically, they removed their masks of anonymity) This may have been an attempt to diminish individuality and lead us into conformity, as symbolized by the phrase: "Well trodden corridors into the valley of steel."

 There is a group whose symbol is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing. This group includes several sub-groups, all of which are widely recognized and are currently very active.

[old3bob]

 

an elephant in destructive rampage is in the room, what's left of it.

 

[Nungali]

John Wick  ?  

 

No . 

 

I think Buster Scruggs is a better one to combat ... if not evil, at least bad manners and ill considerations ! 

 

 

[Lairg]

10 hours ago, zerostao said:

The animals were loaded two by two onto some vessel,

 

 In 2022, it listed 2.16 million species on the planet. In the chart, we see the breakdown across a range of taxonomic groups — 1.05 million insects, over 11,000 birds, over 11,000 reptiles, and over 6,000 mammals.

https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-species-are-there

 

Two million species so far described.  It  must have been a big ship - and it must have taken a while to round up 2 million species

 

Perhaps the craft took genetic material - and perhaps the genetic material was held by those responsible for managing the planetary ecosystem

 

Better perhaps not to rely on religious accounts.  Who knows what agendas are behind religions?

 

 

 

 

[zerostao]

I guess sea creatures and ocean dwellers were spared?

 

 

[zerostao]

3 hours ago, Nungali said:

John Wick  ?  

 

No . 

 

I think Buster Scruggs is a better one to combat ... if not evil, at least bad manners and ill considerations ! 

 

 

 

Remo Williams and Chiun

[Sanity Check]

10 hours ago, zerostao said:

Let's look at John Wick.

"John Wick is often described as a "lone wolf" due to his solitary nature and immense combat skill, reminiscent of classic Westerns, but this is a simplification of his character. While he acts independently in much of his fighting, he actively relies on and builds a network of loyal friends, enemies, and even former adversaries who provide him with crucial support, weapons, and strategic assistance, demonstrating that relationships are a core element of his success."

 

The Powers that ought not be promote the Lone Wolf concept to encourage a mentality of Trust No One. They have emphasized for decades that defending against Lone Wolves is highly challenging for them.

If defending against Lone Wolves is difficult for those in power, confronting well-coordinated networks would be even more challenging for them. In recent years, these Powers have revealed their true intentions, notably while enforcing mask mandates.  (Ironically, they removed their masks of anonymity) This may have been an attempt to diminish individuality and lead us into conformity, as symbolized by the phrase: "Well trodden corridors into the valley of steel."

 There is a group whose symbol is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing. This group includes several sub-groups, all of which are widely recognized and are currently very active.

 

3 hours ago, Nungali said:

John Wick  ?  

 

No . 

 

I think Buster Scruggs is a better one to combat ... if not evil, at least bad manners and ill considerations ! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Wick ^

 

For better or worse, there is nothing like it that has been done before.

[Sanity Check]

32 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 

 In 2022, it listed 2.16 million species on the planet. In the chart, we see the breakdown across a range of taxonomic groups — 1.05 million insects, over 11,000 birds, over 11,000 reptiles, and over 6,000 mammals.

https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-species-are-there

 

Two million species so far described.  It  must have been a big ship - and it must have taken a while to round up 2 million species

 

Perhaps the craft took genetic material - and perhaps the genetic material was held by those responsible for managing the planetary ecosystem

 

Better perhaps not to rely on religious accounts.  Who knows what agendas are behind religions?

 

 

 

How many different ethnicities of people exist in 2025? Many.

 

How many ethnicities existed during Noah's era. Fewer.

 

How long did it take humanity to branch off into different ethnic groups. Not as long as most might guess.

 

Likewise there may be 11,000 species of bird now. But there definitely were far fewer in past eras. Due to something evolutionists proudly refer to as: speciation.

 

I think this is what they call: basic science.

 

But can it be that basic considering I would guess most are unaware of it.

 

Edited October 4 by Sanity Check

[Sanity Check]

11 hours ago, zerostao said:

Let’s look at The Flood, and every culture from every corner of Earth acknowledges this event. The animals were loaded two by two onto some vessel, and while they were on board, physically, at least, perhaps not morally. It rained forty days and forty nights, and it must have been torrential and forcefully falling rain in buckets and barrels. The Animals were well aware of what was going on. Every creature they knew and loved, everything they knew and loved, their entire world was being forcefully and violently drowned. How Traumatic is that?

In the immediate aftermath of that, these terrorized creatures see a Rainbow for the first time and are provided with its intended message: that God would never destroy Earth again by water.

That is one helluva caveat, eh? I think it can be just as easily viewed as a looming threat,  Promise.

 

 

Life is always traumatic for animals in the wild.

 

Edited October 4 by Sanity Check

[Sanity Check]

9 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

an elephant in destructive rampage is in the room, what's left of it.

 

 

 

Wait. Are you referring to me?
 

This is like...  2/10 effort on my part.

 

This is a watered down and mild version of what I originally thought about posting.

 

I'm too wild and uncensored for daobums now?

 

LOL

Edited October 4 by Sanity Check

[Lala Nila]

3 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

Wait. Are you referring to me?
 

This is like...  2/10 effort on my part.

 

This is a watered down and mild version of what I originally thought about posting.

 

I'm too wild and uncensored for daobums now?

 

LOL

post the unwatered down version, I'm curious and like passionate writing from the heart!

 

 

 

[Lairg]

25 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

there may be 11,000 species of bird now. But there definitely were far fewer in past eras.

 

I suppose the major extinctions are not an issue

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

[zerostao]

36 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

How many different ethnicities of people exist in 2025? Many.

 

How many ethnicities existed during Noah's era. Fewer.

 

How long did it take humanity to branch off into different ethnic groups. Not as long as most might guess.

 

Likewise there may be 11,000 species of bird now. But there definitely were far fewer in past eras. Due to something evolutionists proudly refer to as: speciation.

 

I think this is what they call: basic science.

 

But can it be that basic considering I would guess most are unaware of it.

 

 

O3b isn't referring to you....

 

The story goes there was a raven and a dove. Seems further punishment to animals, that one of each got left on the boat...

 

 

 

Apparently, a couple of wolves in sheep's clothing caught a ride.

Edited October 4 by zerostao

[zerostao]

1 minute ago, Lairg said:

 

I suppose the major extinctions are not an issue

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

 

Doesn't theory go that by being in our current simulation, we avoid the overdue next major extinction?

 

Spoiler

For a limited time only

 

[Lairg]

53 minutes ago, zerostao said:

Doesn't theory go that by being in our current simulation, we avoid the overdue next major extinction?

 

It may be better to think in terms of parallel timelines/processing.

 

The current timeline work is mainly to avoid the millennia of dictatorship that was likely to emerge jointly from Earth, Moon and Mars.

[Cadcam]

Life isn't black and white. A lot goes into people's choices. Sometimes evil is accidental,  or from external factors. We have to consider that we are all human, and don't always make the right choices.

[Sanity Check]

1 hour ago, Lala Nila said:

post the unwatered down version, I'm curious and like passionate writing from the heart!

 

 

 

 

 

When I was younger I'd spam all of the cutting edge and cool things I learned everywhere.

 

It took a long time but eventually I realized people don't appreciate facts & science the way I appreciate those things.

 

Once I realized I was only wasting peoples time sharing things they weren't interested in and in many cases - would prefer not to know.

 

It became much easier to honor peoples wishes.

 

So whatever is written in the present will always be somewhat watered down and diluted.

 

Until the day comes when people can embrace knowledge with a clearer conscience and mind.

 

 

[Sanity Check]

2 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

I suppose the major extinctions are not an issue

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

 

 

Speciation is a faster process than mass extinction. 

 

There is a thing that happens.

 

Where creationists say: evolution is not real as there is no example of one species branching into two separate species that has been observed.

 

Then evolutionists say its called speciation & there are examples of it:

 

Search Assist

 

Examples of speciation include Darwin's finches, which evolved into different species on the Galápagos Islands, and the apple maggot fly, which adapted to lay eggs in apples instead of hawthorn fruit, leading to reproductive isolation. Other examples are the Kaibab and Abert's squirrels, which evolved separately after the Grand Canyon formed, and various species of cichlid fish in Africa that arose through sympatric speciation.

[Lairg]

2 hours ago, Sanity Check said:

 

Speciation is a faster process than mass extinction. 

 

I am astonished - in several ways

 

 

[Apech]

Marcion had the answer.

[Sanity Check]

3 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

I am astonished - in several ways

 

 

 

 

Well, think of it this way.

 

Charles Darwin published Origin of Species in 1859.

 

2025 - 1859 = 166 years.

 

This means examples of a single species splitting into two separate species (speciation) needed to occur within a short span of 166 years for scientists to observe and document it.

 

Which is very fast in terms of evolution.

 

Mass extinction happen quickly today. Due to the population of people more than tripling from 1950 to 2025.

 

But back in past eras, when the human population wasn't as massive as it is today. Extinctions happened much more slowly.

[Apech]

27 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

Well, think of it this way.

 

Charles Darwin published Origin of Species in 1859.

 

2025 - 1859 = 166 years.

 

This means examples of a single species splitting into two separate species (speciation) needed to occur within a short span of 166 years for scientists to observe and document it.

 

Which is very fast in terms of evolution.

 

Mass extinction happen quickly today. Due to the population of people more than tripling from 1950 to 2025.

 

But back in past eras, when the human population wasn't as massive as it is today. Extinctions happened much more slowly.

Fossil record spans millions of years.

[Sanity Check]

9 minutes ago, Apech said:

Fossil record spans millions of years.

 

 

 

Good point. 

 

But the best examples are cases which occurred recently.

 

From:  https://talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

 

Rapid speciation of the Faeroe Island house mouse, which occurred in less than 250 years after man brought the creature to the island.

(Test for speciation in this case is based on morphology. It is unlikely that forced breeding experiments have been performed with the parent stock.)

Stanley, S., 1979. Macroevolution: Pattern and Process, San Francisco, W.H. Freeman and Company. p. 41