ChiDragon Posted 5 hours ago On 9/13/2025 at 12:01 AM, Antares said: Yes, this is the most difficult part of the entire alchemical process - one must hold the virtuous lifestyle preventing the leakages. And of course, I think this diagram illustrates that the body energy is leaking out the body. Don't you think it is a fallacy. What it is saying that all human beings, eventually, are having the possibility leaking all the body energy and die? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 5 hours ago are you asking if all human beings will die ? Errrmmmmm ...... what can I say ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Nungali said: are you asking if all human beings will die ? Errrmmmmm ...... what can I say ? I didn't say that. What I am saying that is what the diagram was suggesting. My interpretation was the energy in the human body is constantly leaking out. Eventually, all will leaked out, then, the body has no energy left to sustain itself . Edited 4 hours ago by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: I didn't say that. What I am saying that is what the diagram was suggesting. My interpretation was the energy in the human body is constantly leaking out. Eventually, all will leaked out, then, the body has no energy left to sustain itself . I understood that ..... and then ? if your interpretation is correct , does it not lead to what I suggested ? and my comment is about ones observations ... have you not observed that all people actually do die ? And my own take on 'leakage ' is very different , it should all be about flow , so the 'container' should be constantly 'outflowing ' but also inflowing . There is no problem with outflow it is actually required . However if 'leakage ' means damage to the container s it can never be filled or replenished ... then you have big health / vitality issues , which, yes, can result in death . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 4 hours ago I am still waiting for a simple and direct definition of eastern alchemy . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Nungali said: I am still waiting for a simple and direct definition of eastern alchemy . I thought the concept about the three treasures of Jing, chi, and shen was very clearly described as the eastern alchemy. I am so surprised that the concept had been floating around for centuries. Are you telling me that no one realize that is the original idea of eastern alchemy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites