Damo Mitchell - Need Advice

[Neirong]

On 29.08.2025 at 7:17 AM, Forestgreen said:

Activating the rainbow bridge (it's in the neijingtu, for reference) is a basic level accomplishment.

 

Activating the heche is an intermediate level accomplishment. 

 

Unless one continue with speed-reciting the names of the eight trigrams until qi moves in the du + ren channels at the speed of light ( the funniest scamgong I have seen in the 30+ years I have practiced), one moves on with more important aspects of practice. 

 

Maybe in your system these things are more central?

 

But I do agree that, as a consumer, I have the right to have potential teachers tested for accomplishments. Even brit expats. 

(Flickers through books...)

 

So, I think they should be tested for the abilities to levitate or fly, to shrink to an extremely small size, and expand to an extremely large size. Objective and verafiable claims. 

 

The established way to do that is with doctors and scientists present. Maybe one of those doctors should be a psychiatrist? And the big dudes in white coats, maybe they aren't scientists at all...

At the most basic level you should be able to see Qi.

Beginner cultivators with just 3-5 years of training can see it.
Getting that ability would pretty much destroy what most people think about a ton of these so-called great teachers and reveal what their actual level (non-imaginary) really is.

If you still can’t see it after decades of "training" the chances are very high (about 100%) you’re stuck in some cult or another worthless scamgong group that doesn’t teach anything useful.

There’s honestly no point in discussing cultivation stuff, accomplishments, milestones, levels, and so on, with someone who can’t even see the densest energy out there.

Like you can't see anything. You are confused. A lifelong 30+ years, ego trip with nothing to show in the end, unfortunate, but well deserved. 

[cake1234566]

I actually think damo mitchell is a very good source of info, especially when compared to other public offerings

(not an exorbitant amount of money or requiring knowing the right people)

I learned his neigong stuff long ago before moving elsewhere for neidan and still use the posture cues sometimes

Now, that being said
The quality of info being put out even freely in chinese by authentic lineage holders is much, much higher quality than anything public in the west

I would point someone interested in daoism to damo mitchell without any reservation, a serious practitioner I would recommend to learn mandarin and start networking haha

 

The main points against him are his friendship with adam mizner who is genuinely seriously questionable (super political social media and fake taiji demos where he pretends to be a jedi), as well as his early lineage discrepancies

Both from what i've been able to glean are not really relevant to his current teachings (he does not currently teach wuxigong nor does he publicly take a political stance)

 

The first year or so of his course just consists of sinking the body, preparing the space and initiating the ldt, and some basic qigong with hundreds of hours of meticulous explanation
There's worse ways to spend your time for sure lol

 

 

 

[Antares]

Some people here say he is "recognized" daoist, and that is why I wonder if they can give reference to any daoist text that corresponds with what he teaches as neidan/neigong. Or they just believe his teaching is authentic because he says it is?

[cake1234566]

2 hours ago, Antares said:

Some people here say he is "recognized" daoist, and that is why I wonder if they can give reference to any daoist text that corresponds with what he teaches as neidan/neigong. Or they just believe his teaching is authentic because he says it is?

His neigong is a collection of martial arts principles and yangsheng methods for the purpose of vitality, nothing too extravagant

I've seen pretty much all of them repeated from longmen lineage teachers which lines up with his claim of being initiated into longmen
He apparently teaches a neidan method after I think it was either 3 or 5 years but i didn't stay long enough to learn it, from what i've heard its wuzhen pian based

Neigong is kinda iffy on lineage because neigong is a very modern term lol but he has a page of teachers on his site

[Antares]

20 minutes ago, cake1234566 said:

I've seen pretty much all of them repeated from longmen lineage teachers which lines up with his claim of being initiated into longmen
He apparently teaches a neidan method after I think it was either 3 or 5 years but i didn't stay long enough to learn it, from what i've heard its wuzhen pian based

So no articles on neidan, his book on neidan is very primitive and seems to be modern Northern path of meditations. Wuzhen Pian is Southern. Nobody has seen his Chinese teachers but a lot of claims

[justjoseph]

23 hours ago, Neirong said:

At the most basic level you should be able to see Qi.

Beginner cultivators with just 3-5 years of training can see it.
Getting that ability would pretty much destroy what most people think about a ton of these so-called great teachers and reveal what their actual level (non-imaginary) really is.

If you still can’t see it after decades of "training" the chances are very high (about 100%) you’re stuck in some cult or another worthless scamgong group that doesn’t teach anything useful.

There’s honestly no point in discussing cultivation stuff, accomplishments, milestones, levels, and so on, with someone who can’t even see the densest energy out there.

Like you can't see anything. You are confused. A lifelong 30+ years, ego trip with nothing to show in the end, unfortunate, but well deserved. 

How do you know that what you're seeing is real ? and if it is real, how do you know that it's the same qi as the one he cultivates ? What if you learned to see an energy that is something else and yet you are judging others by that metric unaware that of course they won't measure up.

[cake1234566]

1 hour ago, Antares said:

So no articles on neidan, his book on neidan is very primitive and seems to be modern Northern path of meditations. Wuzhen Pian is Southern. Nobody has seen his Chinese teachers but a lot of claims

The book is intentionally bare bones, he tells you in the course to not practice from only the book but to wait for the oral teachings that go with it

I wouldn't say that his books are a good representation of what his course teaches, his actual methods are almost never discussed in the books they're more broad overviews of the subject matter, for both neigong and neidan

The wuzhen pian is featured heavily in several northern lineages im aware of including the most well known, dragons gate

 

That being said I would not recommend damo for serious neidan study, I wouldn't recommend anyone outside of china / taiwan for that but hes great compared to the bruce frantzis or mantak chia types out there lol

 

 

[Creation]

4 hours ago, cake1234566 said:

That being said I would not recommend damo for serious neidan study, I wouldn't recommend anyone outside of china / taiwan for that but hes great compared to the bruce frantzis or mantak chia types out there lol

Care to share some names? I have some Chinese speaking friends who might be interested in quality Chinese language material.