Neirong Posted 14 hours ago On 29.08.2025 at 7:17 AM, Forestgreen said: Activating the rainbow bridge (it's in the neijingtu, for reference) is a basic level accomplishment.  Activating the heche is an intermediate level accomplishment.  Unless one continue with speed-reciting the names of the eight trigrams until qi moves in the du + ren channels at the speed of light ( the funniest scamgong I have seen in the 30+ years I have practiced), one moves on with more important aspects of practice.  Maybe in your system these things are more central?  But I do agree that, as a consumer, I have the right to have potential teachers tested for accomplishments. Even brit expats. (Flickers through books...)  So, I think they should be tested for the abilities to levitate or fly, to shrink to an extremely small size, and expand to an extremely large size. Objective and verafiable claims.  The established way to do that is with doctors and scientists present. Maybe one of those doctors should be a psychiatrist? And the big dudes in white coats, maybe they aren't scientists at all... At the most basic level you should be able to see Qi. Beginner cultivators with just 3-5 years of training can see it. Getting that ability would pretty much destroy what most people think about a ton of these so-called great teachers and reveal what their actual level (non-imaginary) really is. If you still can’t see it after decades of "training" the chances are very high (about 100%) you’re stuck in some cult or another worthless scamgong group that doesn’t teach anything useful. There’s honestly no point in discussing cultivation stuff, accomplishments, milestones, levels, and so on, with someone who can’t even see the densest energy out there. Like you can't see anything. You are confused. A lifelong 30+ years, ego trip with nothing to show in the end, unfortunate, but well deserved. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
