Is It Over? The Dao Bums Fall

[Annnon]

I feel like we don't have the same energy anymore, old people left, the ones who stayed don't post that much.

 

Yes I know there are new people carrying the forum on it's back, if it weren't for them to post we would have like only a few posts per week.

Cheers to those new members

 

I also used to hype this forum when I started, good times back in 2019, and that wasn't even the peak, I came too late to this forum, envy for those who participated in those times

 

Seems like in the past 3 years we went downhill bro

 

I'm also out of ideas to post so I can't contribute, I tried to annoy people the other day but it wasn't a good idea

 

Recently I started to look for Tantra practices, and I had to PM 2 members here to get answers because no one commented on my post

 

Then I found Reddit, and reddit forum about Tanta, Hinduism and Buddhism are full of people, for vajrayana I found a whole forum dedicated to it, just like this one

 

But the qigong reddit is poor, very poor... And there is no other place like The Dao Bums

 

So the best place for qigong/daoist related topics is still The Dao Bums, but unfortunately for some reason we couldn't incorporate well other traditions, it would be nice to have more people here and everything in one place, but I have no idea how to make this happen, buddhism is quite relevant here too but as I said, in COMPARISON to other places this is not the best unfortunately 

 

Oh well I coundn't use all of the emojis

 

Anyways, I feel sad to have to use other forums for other traditions related questions.

 

If I'm wrong please correct me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lairg]

It is generally the case that spiritual forums have declined over the last few decades.  It may be that with the changing of the local cosmic cycle that inner processes are changing too and new interfaces are required.

 

Also the greater cosmic cycle may have different objectives/requirements for the inner processes of humans

 

[kakapo]

2 hours ago, Annnon said:

I feel like we don't have the same energy anymore, old people left, the ones who stayed don't post that much.

 

Yes I know there are new people carrying the forum on it's back, if it weren't for them to post we would have like only a few posts per week.

Cheers to those new members

 

I also used to hype this forum when I started, good times back in 2019, and that wasn't even the peak, I came too late to this forum, envy for those who participated in those times

 

Seems like in the past 3 years we went downhill bro

 

I'm also out of ideas to post so I can't contribute, I tried to annoy people the other day but it wasn't a good idea

 

Recently I started to look for Tantra practices, and I had to PM 2 members here to get answers because no one commented on my post

 

Then I found Reddit, and reddit forum about Tanta, Hinduism and Buddhism are full of people, for vajrayana I found a whole forum dedicated to it, just like this one

 

But the qigong reddit is poor, very poor... And there is no other place like The Dao Bums

 

So the best place for qigong/daoist related topics is still The Dao Bums, but unfortunately for some reason we couldn't incorporate well other traditions, it would be nice to have more people here and everything in one place, but I have no idea how to make this happen, buddhism is quite relevant here too but as I said, in COMPARISON to other places this is not the best unfortunately 

 

Oh well I coundn't use all of the emojis

 

Anyways, I feel sad to have to use other forums for other traditions related questions.

 

If I'm wrong please correct me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know there are certain topics they ask us not to talk about, so I will be vague.  

 

Right now spiritual people, at least the ones who are paying attention have a lot more on their minds than normal. 

 

I have a good Buddhist friend recently who committed suicide rather than deal with certain realities.  

 

I think a lot of people who would otherwise be posting here are not doing well because of things, and maybe they are withdrawing from communities like this one.

 

Just my $0.02

Edited Monday at 11:22 PM by kakapo

[BigSkyDiamond]

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

Also the greater cosmic cycle may have different objectives/requirements for the inner processes of humans

 

Interesting.  What might those look like for us?

[Lairg]

 By some accounts in the first version of this solar system (incarnation of the solar Logos) our god was a god of right intelligence.   Spiritual development for human souls was based  on learning to direct intelligent energies. 

 

In this incarnation of the solar Logos  our god is a god of love - or more correctly, a god of right relationship.  Human souls formed in/for this version of the solar system mostly are learning right relationship.  Some of the souls from the previous solar system prefer the old ways.  

 

Billions of years from now (if linear time is significant) there will be a new version of this solar system where our god will be a god of right intent.  A few brave souls are preparing the way.

 

Thus right intelligence provides usable structures, entities and groups

 

Right relationship develops coherence and strength in those groups 

 

Coherent groups with right relationship may be strong enough to be used with right intent.

 

At that stage our solar Logos may qualify for functions delegated by our galactic Logos.

 

etc. 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 02:26 AM by Lairg

[BigSkyDiamond]

21 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 a new version of this solar system where our god will be a god of right intent.  A few brave souls are preparing the way.

 

For those "preparing the way" how do we recognize that, what does it look like, what makes them different.

It seems like we are able to use intent now. I guess i'm not understanding why that is deferred to some future era.  Thank you.

 

Edited Tuesday at 02:45 AM by BigSkyDiamond

[Tommy]

I was a member of Zen Forum International for a while. It was a nice place to have discussions and get advice. There were teachers there but they never helped me. They had their own agendas. Promoting their websites or Zendos. Still a nice place to visit.

 

Been to a few other forums and the people, there, were in a know it all type of situation. Heavy into knowledge about everything about the Dharma and Sutras. Made me feel out of place. Sorry, I am simple and ignorant. Still willing to learn. 

 

So, by chance, someone mentioned The Dao Bums. And I have found it to be a nice place to visit. Have gotten some great advice. Good people here. Even though they know a whole lot more than I do, they have never made me feel stupid for not knowing ordinary things a beginner might know. So very happy to have been here and met the people that re-ignited my interest and practice.

 

But, as in all things, change happens. Maybe for the better??

[Lairg]

12 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

For those "preparing the way" how do we recognize that, what does it look like, what makes them different.

 

Long ago I knew a first ray (will) probationary disciple - thus able to control his physical energies but still struggling with emotional and mental processes.

 

His wife was an accepted (inner plane) disciple, able to control her emotions.

 

She said that on occasion she would have to scream at her husband to get him to pay attention to his foolishness.

 

The husband was an interior designer.  He told me of a mansion that he redecorated.  The owners moved out shortly after.  They could not cope with the decor 

 

Expand that to a planetary scale

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 02:57 AM by Lairg

[BigSkyDiamond]

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

 

Long ago I knew a first ray (will) probationary disciple - thus able to control his physical energies but still struggling with emotional and mental processes.

 

His wife was an accepted (inner plane) disciple, able to control her emotions.

She said that on occasion she would have to scream at her husband to get him to pay attention to his foolishness.

The husband was an interior designer.  He told me of a mansion that he redecorated.  The owners moved out shortly after.  They could not cope with the decor 

 

Expand that to a planetary scale

 

OK.  Thank you.

[Cobie]

 

21 hours ago, Lairg said:

… she would have to scream at her husband to get him to …

imo “she” has NPD. This to me sounds like narcissistic manipulation (‘You made me do it’). 

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:42 AM by Cobie

[Lairg]

9 hours ago, Cobie said:

imo “she” has NPD. This to me sounds like narcissistic manipulation (‘You made me do it’). 

 

She told me that one time she was screaming at her husband and saw her young daughters getting upset.  So she said to the girls:  Look into my eyes - am I angry?

 

They said:  No.

 

She went back to screaming at her husband

 

 

[Kati]

On 11.8.2025 at 10:26 PM, Annnon said:

I feel like we don't have the same energy anymore, old people left, the ones who stayed don't post that much.

 

Yes I know there are new people carrying the forum on it's back, if it weren't for them to post we would have like only a few posts per week.

Cheers to those new members

 

I also used to hype this forum when I started, good times back in 2019, and that wasn't even the peak, I came too late to this forum, envy for those who participated in those times

 

Seems like in the past 3 years we went downhill bro

 

I'm also out of ideas to post so I can't contribute, I tried to annoy people the other day but it wasn't a good idea

 

Recently I started to look for Tantra practices, and I had to PM 2 members here to get answers because no one commented on my post

 

Then I found Reddit, and reddit forum about Tanta, Hinduism and Buddhism are full of people, for vajrayana I found a whole forum dedicated to it, just like this one

 

But the qigong reddit is poor, very poor... And there is no other place like The Dao Bums

 

So the best place for qigong/daoist related topics is still The Dao Bums, but unfortunately for some reason we couldn't incorporate well other traditions, it would be nice to have more people here and everything in one place, but I have no idea how to make this happen, buddhism is quite relevant here too but as I said, in COMPARISON to other places this is not the best unfortunately 

 

Oh well I coundn't use all of the emojis

 

Anyways, I feel sad to have to use other forums for other traditions related questions.

 

If I'm wrong please correct me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, you're not alone in feeling this way about dao bums—others have been there too!
There must be some Daoist practices to channel good energy, right? But hey, I’m still a newbie at it myself. Otherwise, I’d be radiating so much positive energy into this forum that people would feel compelled to interact with each other. Okay, kidding aside.
I also try to contribute here and there. what i also do is: Reading posts that resonats with me and send the authors a private message. Works like a charm!

[BigSkyDiamond]

screaming at husband to the extent that children nearby are getting upset, does not seem to me  to be the behavior of someone with  balance in their thought, speech, actions, emotions.   If someone is balanced, then the only thing i can think of that would justify screaming at someone else, is if there is imminent danger or threat of harm, or extreme fear or trauma response.  there is a reason we teach children (and adults) not to scream at others.   I don't see it as justified (either the action or the justification offered) in the situation described; and i am unclear on how that is model behavior.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 09:44 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

On 8/11/2025 at 1:26 PM, Annnon said:

         

 

what does this emoji signify?  usually rolling over the emoji shows the sentiment indicated, such as "Wow" or "Oh boy" or "confused."  but this one just says "ph34r"      i can't find it online either.  closest to it is the ninja emoji, but he is shown with sword over the shoulder.

 

thank you

Edited Tuesday at 09:40 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[Annnon]

18 minutes ago, Kati said:

Hey, you're not alone in feeling this way about dao bums—others have been there too!
There must be some Daoist practices to channel good energy, right? But hey, I’m still a newbie at it myself. Otherwise, I’d be radiating so much positive energy into this forum that people would feel compelled to interact with each other. Okay, kidding aside.
I also try to contribute here and there. what i also do is: Reading posts that resonats with me and send the authors a private message. Works like a charm!

I used to do that a lot when I arrived here, best way to learn new things haha

[Annnon]

4 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

what does this emoji signify?  usually rolling over the emoji shows the sentiment indicated, such as "Wow" or "Oh boy" or "confused"

but this one just says "ph34r"      i can't find it online either. 

hahaha to be honest I don't know either!

 

I was just spamming different emojis at the end of every sentence.

 

But If I need to guess, I would say it should be used when you try to hide something or you did something bad and maybe you want so say "it wasn't me", but I really don't know, it's all people's interpretation at this point

Edited Tuesday at 09:41 PM by Annnon

[liminal_luke]

Just now, Annnon said:

hahaha to be honest I don't know either!

 

I was just spamming different emojis at the end of every sentence.

 

But If I need to guess, I would say it should be used when you try to hid something or you did something bad and maybe you want so say "it wasn't me", but I really don't know, it's all people's interpretation at this point

 

I think it´s supposed to be the "ninja" emoji.  I use it humorously to express secrecy.  Like if I hint that something might be true but don´t want to come right out and say it outright.  But I´m no emoji expert.  That´s just my interpretation.

[Annnon]

3 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

 

I think it´s supposed to be the "ninja" emoji.  I use it humorously to express secrecy.  Like if I hint that something might be true but don´t want to come right out and say it outright.  But I´m no emoji expert.  That´s just my interpretation.

yes I think you used the right word here "secrecy", it makes a lot of sense now 

[BigSkyDiamond]

11 minutes ago, Annnon said:

But If I need to guess, I would say it should be used when you try to hide something or you did something bad and maybe you want so say "it wasn't me", but I really don't know, it's all people's interpretation at this point

 

yeah, that comes to mind also.  it does have that look of "bank robber" or "bandit" or "protester" or "burglar" wearing ski mask to conceal identity during criminal or disruptive activity,  along those lines.  

Edited Tuesday at 09:53 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[Cobie]

 

3 hours ago, Lairg said:

She told me that one time she was screaming at her husband and saw her young daughters getting upset.  So she said to the girls:  Look into my eyes - am I angry? They said:  No. She went back to screaming at her husband

 

In my experience, with a narcissist as a mother - children dare not disagree.  These posts of yours, to me they come over as very inhumane.   I find your posts too unsettling to read any further.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:34 AM by Cobie

[BigSkyDiamond]

in a traumatic situation (yes parents screaming at each other is yes a traumatic situation for children) a child will say whatever is demanded of them or expected of them, to ensure their own safety and survival.  In a family situation where parents are screaming at each other, the kids learn early on what to say and do, what NOT to say or do.  And also they are told what they feel and what they do not feel. The child in that situation does not have a voice and is not safe.

 

is the incident described triggering for me?  Yes it is.   Do I find it disturbing?  Yes i do.

I am a grown up now, and I do have a voice now.   I am using the voice that i have now, to say what i just said above.

 

Edited Tuesday at 10:44 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[Nungali]

11 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

imo “she” has NPD. This to me sounds like narcissistic manipulation (‘You made me do it’). 

 

 

Oh no .....   she  was an accepted (inner plane) disciple, able to control her emotions.

 

:)  

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, liminal_luke said:

 

I think it´s supposed to be the "ninja" emoji.  I use it humorously to express secrecy.  Like if I hint that something might be true but don´t want to come right out and say it outright.  But I´m no emoji expert.  That´s just my interpretation.

 

 

So that's why I don't use that emoji !  

 

 

[Nungali]

33 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

in a traumatic situation (yes parents screaming at each other is yes a traumatic situation for children) a child will say whatever is demanded of them or expected of them, to ensure their own safety and survival.  In a family situation where parents are screaming at each other, the kids learn early on what to say and do, what NOT to say or do.  And also they are told what they feel and what they do not feel. The child in that situation does not have a voice and is not safe.

 

is the incident described triggering for me?  Yes it is.   Do I find it disturbing?  Yes i do.

 

 

Agreed !     My last partner had 3 little sons  (oldest 5  at the time )  , a handful  ....... she was  !   Volatile and often yelling , including at the kids  and sometimes some really bad  that kids should not hear .   A very difficult situation . 

 

I would have to council and nurture them and explain to them why I thought Mommy was exploding and didn't really mean the things she was saying to them . 

 

She would often be amazed at me and say : Through all of this ... you never fought with me , or yelled at me  .......   (oh good  ... but then ... )   " Where is your passion !   You have no passion !   Of course I have passion and yell and scream , I am a Latino woman !   "  

 

Yikes !  

 

I'm gonna stick this in here ....   

 

Spoiler

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:02 PM by Nungali

[Taomeow]

_/\_  That video gave me anxiety -- I was waiting for her to swallow her bubble gum.