Surya Posted yesterday at 10:36 AM For instance, if you are on the path to initiation, is there a 1st, 2st, 3st etc. stage to this, that can be mapped? And can this map help shed light on where you are, what to do and what comes next? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted yesterday at 12:10 PM 1 hour ago, Surya said: For instance, if you are on the path to initiation, is there a 1st, 2st, 3st etc. stage to this, that can be mapped? And can this map help shed light on where you are, what to do and what comes next? I think the Secret of the Golden Flower gives stages. And just as a point of interest the Ancient Egyptians liked to map out the process (though many would dispute that this is what they were doing). I would question the idea that the goal is the Light in the first place …. I would review how you think about the goal a little I think. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted yesterday at 04:08 PM 5 hours ago, Surya said: For instance, if you are on the path to initiation, is there a 1st, 2st, 3st etc. stage to this, that can be mapped? And can this map help shed light on where you are, what to do and what comes next? What system is this in reference to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted yesterday at 04:43 PM 6 hours ago, Surya said: For instance, if you are on the path to initiation, is there a 1st, 2st, 3st etc. stage to this, that can be mapped? And can this map help shed light on where you are, what to do and what comes next? students of various yogas go through stages which are recognized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 21 hours ago 12 hours ago, Surya said: For instance, if you are on the path to initiation, is there a 1st, 2st, 3st etc. stage to this, that can be mapped? And can this map help shed light on where you are, what to do and what comes next? Of course . This is , in the west, the 'degree system' . Most are based , at first, on the 'primal three' representing birth life and death . Its similar in indigenous cultures too ( that I have encountered ) . usually 'out of ' (as a 'pendant to ' ) the 2nd degree - life are a few other degrees related to it involving 'magick' , some attribute those to the 'post 3rd degree ' . It can be easily mapped . Not only can it shed light, where you are and what is next - that should be its purpose . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 20 hours ago 10 hours ago, Apech said: I think the Secret of the Golden Flower gives stages. And just as a point of interest the Ancient Egyptians liked to map out the process (though many would dispute that this is what they were doing). I would question the idea that the goal is the Light in the first place …. I would review how you think about the goal a little I think. It can be a metaphorical goal .... or an overall term that 'suffices for this stage ' . For example we had a 'Tracing board ' for use in instruction / as a 'mandala' / 'reminder' . ( Tracing boards are a teaching device and attempt to show the lesson of the degree' or the related 'knowledge lecture' in artistic symbolism eg . Frieda Harris' versions from the first three degrees of Co-Masonry ) It had a large circle with divisions for 'the six paths of magic and yoga ' , each colored accordingly , the color as it sent to the center of the diagram labeled 'enlightenment ' was white , as it went further out from the center to the circumference it darkened until it was black - labelled ignorance . For example the 'Love' sector for 'Invocational Magick / Bhakti Yoga was white in the center , toning into the blue of 'love ' and getting darker until it came to 'obsession ' . So in this simple schemata , 'the light' , at that stage , was what one was 'aiming for ' . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites