What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light

[Nungali]

5 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

 

 

I don’t do philosophising. Laozi literally means the female womb. 
 

As for the literal  “1, 2 and 3 ... ” see https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/56993-chapter-4/?do=findComment&comment=1057738

 

 

 

Did someone he know have twins  ?  

[Nungali]

5 hours ago, stirling said:

 

I think I would like these "they" very much!

 

 

Hmmm         'they'  like the old elders we used to have , don't seem to be around anymore .

 

A half dozen of those guys impressed me , they seemed the 'real deal ' .  They had 'special abilities'  that often would be tested . 

 

I saw one squatting on the balls of his feet , hands extended  and  someone opposite him standing  holding his wrists , could not push him over  .  Then another started pushing the standing guy'ships from the back , then two pushing them, eventually the whole class , it was ridiculous .  Then teacher dropped one knee , rotated his hands and the whole class ended up in a squirming pile  on top of each other .     
 

 A decade later the same organisation would teach all these movements  ( even the obscure preliminary 'ki gathering' movements )  , yet I never heard them use the word ki once .   I mentioned  the people that taught me originally , these new people knew of them and seemed impressed that I had trained with them  .... but this older generation of practitioners  were older than me and I am getting pretty old myself now . I heard that at least 3 of them have passed on now . 

 

This new lot, the head or the organisation turned up  (  for Australia ) ... I remembered him , he joined up  just as I was finishing  with  that early part .  He didn't seem to have what they had .

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

38 minutes ago, Lairg said:

Why should humans have such a pattern?

If the human is the microcosm, what functionality does that bring  in the macrocosm?

 

Humans have the pattern which delineates how non-physical infinite Source projects and interacts with finite physical worlds.  The functionality is for us, not for Source.   

 

"This is the 'divine image' in which the human being is created. By knowing ourselves as human beings, therefore, we are able to discover the divine. And by understanding the divine, we are better able to heal and nurture the human being."

 

The human soul yearns to reunite with its origin within Source.

Do you ever feel that yearning?  It feels like being homesick.

 

(source article by Tzvi Freeman)

Edited 23 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

Those are good questions.

"What new faculties appear in the stillness?"

At the inner level, listening, hearing, seeing, Inner knowing.  Experience that time "stops."

 

If by trans-human level, that is talking about enhanced abilities, or "supernatural" feats then yes people can access those.  But they still remain in Separation even if they are say working in the non-physical planes or as a "light body" or as some other life form, or zipping around to other universes or working on a grander scale.  

Regarding Tree of Life, I do not know, but am interested to hear from anyone on that.

 

 

Anyone ?  

 

It doesn't  actually fit .... well you can make it fit ... like you can make a triangular peg go into square whole - 3 out four is close . 

 

 

I could be wrong of course .... if  .... someone can show  a correlation between the two pre  - Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn .  ,     - 

 

 

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

I am not sure that is quite accurate.

 

On another thread I recounted an experiment where a friend gave heart light to herself back at age 5 and immediately felt better in this timeframe.

 

That suggests that both time zones continue to exist and can be operated in - despite the usual human experience of time as linear.

 

Some alien sources say (Earth?) humans are the only (soul-bearing?) species to experience linear time

 

 

 

Was this one of your 'confirmed experiments ' ?

 

Do you realize there could be many other answers  as to why  she felt like that after doing the 'visualization' ? 

 

 

[Lairg]

I time travelled with her.

 

 

[Surya]

10 minutes ago, Lairg said:

I time travelled with her.

 

 

From where? 👀

Edited 19 hours ago by Surya
Scratch that, prob shouldn’t ask, but can’t help to be curious when I hear about stuff so far removed from my experience haha

[Apech]

8 minutes ago, Surya said:

From where? 👀

I just travelled back to before you deleted that question.

[Surya]

3 minutes ago, Apech said:

I just travelled back to before you deleted that question.

 

[old3bob]

5 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

Humans have the pattern which delineates how non-physical infinite Source projects and interacts with finite physical worlds.  The functionality is for us, not for Source.   

 

"This is the 'divine image' in which the human being is created. By knowing ourselves as human beings, therefore, we are able to discover the divine. And by understanding the divine, we are better able to heal and nurture the human being."

 

The human soul yearns to reunite with its origin within Source.

Do you ever feel that yearning?  It feels like being homesick.

 

(source article by Tzvi Freeman)

 

a human soul (and other souls) are never completely disconnected from the "Source", but we may be heavily veiled from it. True Guru sees this and reveals this since soul can not normally untangle itself from mind identification without some help along the way... many people discount True Guru because of various false guru's corruption. (which is understandable but not the whole story or the end of it)

 

 

[stirling]

15 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

Form, time, space are all dependent upon Source and only have their existence because of Source.  They are changing and finite.  Source is not dependent on any of those.  Source precedes all of those.  Source is unchanging and not finite.

 

Yes, "source"/emptiness/Dao is unchanging and permanent, but it isn't a separate thing. If your training has gotten to the point where you can see it, or if you have permanent insight into it, you realize that, while all impermanence arises from that which is permanent, "source"/emptiness/Dao can ONLY be seen in impermanent appearances. They are one and the same, inseparable.

 

Emptiness IS Form, Form Emptiness. 

 

Time, space and self are intellectual constructs born of a misinterpretation about what we see in the world. It is obvious in the moment of insight, when time, space, and self fall apart. 

[BigSkyDiamond]

45 minutes ago, stirling said:

Yes, "source"/emptiness/Dao is unchanging and permanent, but it isn't a separate thing. If your training has gotten to the point where you can see it, or if you have permanent insight into it, you realize that, while all impermanence arises from that which is permanent, "source"/emptiness/Dao can ONLY be seen in impermanent appearances. They are one and the same, inseparable.

Emptiness IS Form, Form Emptiness. 

Time, space and self are intellectual constructs born of a misinterpretation about what we see in the world. It is obvious in the moment of insight, when time, space, and self fall apart. 

 

everything within the worlds of separation is inseparable from Source.

however Source is far more than only the worlds of separation.

Source expresses in ways other than just the worlds of separation.

 

i don't use the word "emptiness" because it indicates absence, absent.

Source is presence, present.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[old3bob]

16 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

everything within the worlds of separation is inseparable from Source.

however Source is far more than only the worlds of separation.

Source expresses in ways other than just the worlds of separation.

 

i don't use the word "emptiness" because it indicates absence, absent.

Source is presence, present.

 

 

yea, that term "emptiness" can be a loaded one...

[stirling]

36 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

everything within the worlds of separation is inseparable from Source.

however Source is far more than only the worlds of separation.

Source expresses in ways other than just the worlds of separation.

 

i don't use the word "emptiness" because it indicates absence, absent.

Source is presence, present.

 

I like presence as a term. Awareness might be my favorite. Not keen on Source, as (to me) it implies something separate from anything else. 

 

Worlds? Other than here/now?

[Cobie]

 

4 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

… the word "emptiness" …

Meaning depends on context.

 

English dictionary ‘emptiness’ : the state of containing nothing.

 

Google: In Soto Zen Buddhism, the concept of emptiness (sunyata) refers to 

the impermanence and interdependent nature of all phenomena, including ourselves. 

It's not about nothingness.

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Cobie

[BigSkyDiamond]

1 minute ago, stirling said:

I like presence as a term. Awareness might be my favorite. Not keen on Source, as (to me) it implies something separate from anything else. Worlds? Other than here/now?

 

"awareness" and "pure awareness" aptly describe the feeling of alert presence. I have used those at times.  However awareness too easily can be taken to mean perception.  And at the level of pure presence, even perception falls away.   

[BigSkyDiamond]

7 minutes ago, Cobie said:

English dictionary ‘emptiness’ : the state of containing nothing.

Google: In Soto Zen Buddhism, the concept of emptiness (sunyata) refers to 

the impermanence and interdependent nature of all phenomena, including ourselves. 

It's not about nothingness.

 

yes

 

regarding "impermanence of all phenomena including ourselves"

the human body, mind, thoughts, feelings, perceptions, emotions, personality, knowlwedge are all impermanent, yes.  However the part of the human that is the Divine spark is NOT impermanent.  It is permanent.  It has no beginning and no end, always was, always will be.  That is my understanding.

 

Edited 12 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[old3bob]

13 minutes ago, stirling said:

 

I like presence as a term. Awareness might be my favorite. Not keen on Source, as (to me) it implies something separate from anything else. 

 

Worlds? Other than here/now?

 

well I'd say the transcendent is connected to but also not limited to a something

[BigSkyDiamond]

35 minutes ago, stirling said:

Not keen on Source, as (to me) it implies something separate from anything else. 

 

sometimes i think of it as a wellspring, an unending source that flows and the result is, well, everything.  The Tao Te Ching also uses the imagery of water.

[BigSkyDiamond]

3 hours ago, stirling said:

Not keen on Source, as (to me) it implies something separate from anything else. 

 

another name used is Beingness.  I like that also.

it brings to mind the I AM. 

since "am" and "being" are both forms of the verb "be"

 

Be still and know that I AM.

   ---Tehillim 46:11

 

 

3 hours ago, stirling said:

Worlds? Other than here/now? 

 

Source is vast and contains all potential.  It is not a one-trick pony.  So as there are worlds of separation (the physical universes and everything in them) so too it follows there are expressions that are NOT encumbered or characterized by separation. 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[Nungali]

13 hours ago, Apech said:

I just travelled back to before you deleted that question.

 

 

Now  now , sarcasm isn't required here .

 

I tried the technique and it worked !  

 

I have felt bad all my life about stealing my friend's house payment  as it caused her and the kids to be homeless in winter and catch pneumonia . 

 

So I traveled back in time  *    and then didn't do it . 

 

Now I feel great ! No guilt whatsoever !    

 

*   with a friend ...  OK   !   

[BigSkyDiamond]

55 minutes ago, Nungali said:

I tried the technique and it worked !  

I have felt bad all my life about stealing my friend's house payment  as it caused her and the kids to be homeless in winter and catch pneumonia . 

So I traveled back in time  *    and then didn't do it . 

Now I feel great ! No guilt whatsoever !     

 

Bold above raises the question of:

Did you ever pay the friend back?  Or take any other steps to make amends for that?

 

Edited 5 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond