Surya Posted 19 hours ago Another question for the enlightened: how do you know you are enlightened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted 18 hours ago Hope you don't mind - I split this question from the thread you posted in. There is a lot of dark, angry baggage there that would probably detract from your question. _/\_ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Surya said: Another question for the enlightened: how do you know you are enlightened? I’m half way there by knowing I’m not enlightened. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surya Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Apech said: I’m half way there by knowing I’m not enlightened. ... I seem, then, in just this little thing to be wiser than this man at any rate, that what I do not know I do not think I know either. [Henry Cary literal translation of 1897] Edit: forgot to add what text the above is a translation of aha, it is from Platos "apology," qouting Socrates Edited 17 hours ago by Surya 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSkyDiamond Posted 17 hours ago (edited) my rule of thumb is that if someone claims to be enlightened, then they are not Edited 17 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSkyDiamond Posted 17 hours ago (edited) a related question, for anyone: how do you discern if someone is enlightened Edited 17 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Surya said: … how do you know you are enlightened? I ‘inner knowing’ know it 8 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said: … how do you discern if someone is enlightened we ‘know’ and smile at each other Edited 17 hours ago by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surya Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said: a related question, for anyone: how do you discern if someone is enlightened Amount of likes on daobums, naturally. But on the real, vibes, basically. At times i meet people who clearly function at a much higher level on conciousness than I. What traits do they tend to have... presence, kindness, humility, a tremendious ability to know what to say and what not to say. A spark in the eye. Also, I get a strong sense that they are able to read my mind... They never judge. Seem to have strong life force/vitality. Yeah, something along these lines, I think. So Cobies response is quite good, I think: they "smile". Are gentle and kind. What more can you ask for, really. Would anyone like to attempt to define the term? Edited 17 hours ago by Surya 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted 17 hours ago Quote There are, strictly speaking, no enlightened people, there is only enlightened activity - Shuryu Suzuki Enlightened activity gnows itself. Quote There is just a mysterious tacit understanding and no more. - Huang Po That "tacit understanding" belongs to no-one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said: a related question, for anyone: how do you discern if someone is enlightened Push their light body up through the mental subplanes. If it slides through the top of the mental plane without feeling any resistance, the person has met the most obvious requirement for first stage enlightenment. There are other requirements too, but those generally are less difficult to achieve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 14 hours ago 5 hours ago, Surya said: Another question for the enlightened: how do you know you are enlightened? By fulfilling your own definition of what you think it is . Or maybe you have adopted a specific definition ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 1 hour ago it helps to know that the you, you thought you were is not really or fully you, for there is no box big enough or strong enough to hold back Eureka!, Om Tat Sat or whatever term one relates to...and with you as a visitor that one day becomes a full time resident, so to speak. I'd say the picture below alludes to this process: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites