For the Enlightened: A Question

[Surya]

Another question for the enlightened: how do you know you are enlightened?

[stirling]

Hope you don't mind - I split this question from the thread you posted in. There is a lot of dark, angry baggage there that would probably detract from your question.  _/\_

[Apech]

1 hour ago, Surya said:

Another question for the enlightened: how do you know you are enlightened?

I’m half way there by knowing I’m not enlightened.

[Surya]

16 minutes ago, Apech said:

I’m half way there by knowing I’m not enlightened.

... I seem, then, in just this little thing to be wiser than this man at any rate, that what I do not know I do not think I know either. [Henry Cary literal translation of 1897]

Edit: forgot to add what text the above is a translation of aha, it is from Platos "apology," qouting Socrates

Edited 17 hours ago by Surya

[BigSkyDiamond]

my rule of thumb is that if someone claims to be enlightened, then they are not

 

Edited 17 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

a related question, for anyone:

how do you discern if someone is enlightened

 

Edited 17 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond

[Cobie]

 

1 hour ago, Surya said:

…  how do you know you are enlightened?

I ‘inner knowing’ know it

 

8 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

… how do you discern if someone is enlightened

we ‘know’ and smile at each other

 

 

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[Surya]

15 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

a related question, for anyone:

how do you discern if someone is enlightened

 

Amount of likes on daobums, naturally.

 

But on the real, vibes, basically. At times i meet people who clearly function at a much higher level on conciousness than I. What traits do they tend to have... presence, kindness, humility, a tremendious ability to know what to say and what not to say. A spark in the eye. Also, I get a strong sense that they are able to read my mind... They never judge. Seem to have strong life force/vitality. Yeah, something along these lines, I think. So Cobies response is quite good, I think: they "smile". Are gentle and kind. What more can you ask for, really.

 

Would anyone like to attempt to define the term?

Edited 17 hours ago by Surya

[stirling]

Quote

There are, strictly speaking, no enlightened people, there is only enlightened activity - Shuryu Suzuki

 

Enlightened activity gnows itself. 

 

Quote

There is just a mysterious tacit understanding and no more. - Huang Po

 

That "tacit understanding" belongs to no-one.

[Lairg]

3 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

a related question, for anyone:

how do you discern if someone is enlightened

 

 

Push their light body up through the mental subplanes.  If it slides through the top of the mental plane without feeling any resistance, the person has met the most obvious requirement for first stage enlightenment.

 

There are other requirements too, but those generally are less difficult to achieve

 

 

[Nungali]

5 hours ago, Surya said:

Another question for the enlightened: how do you know you are enlightened?

 

By fulfilling your own definition of what you think it is . 

 

Or maybe you have adopted a specific definition ?  

[old3bob]

 

it helps to know that the you, you thought you were is not really or fully you, for there is no box big enough or strong enough to hold back Eureka!,  Om Tat Sat or whatever term one relates to...and with you as a visitor that one day becomes a full time resident, so to speak.  I'd say the picture below alludes to this process: