Flying Phoenix Chi Kung

[BluePhoenix133]

Hope your right, wish i had stuck with that tai chi class i went to years ago.... was thinking of doing squats, but maybe your right and its tension or something.

Edited August 20 by BluePhoenix133

[BluePhoenix133]

Weird but i did DVD 3, so wide stance like bending the bows, and no shaking...although it felt like i almost would, when i did bending the bows earlier the shaking started before i did the breathing so i don't know guess my body needed to loosen up?

[BigSkyDiamond]

it comes and goes.  no biggie.  no rhyme or reason or pattern that i have seen.

people on this thread in general have noted the overall arc is that over time this decreases and goes away.

 

in my experience bending the bows generates the "strongest" flow.  To the point where i have had to limit how often i do it, and for how long, and during what part of the day.  It at times has felt like "too much" for me (not from the shaking, just from the "power" that bending the bows generates internally) so i just scaled it back and that has worked.  It is still my favorite part of Flying Phoenix Qi Gong

 

Edited August 20 by BigSkyDiamond

[Constantine]

On 20/08/2025 at 12:07 PM, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

in my experience bending the bows generates the "strongest" flow.  To the point where i have had to limit how often i do it, and for how long, and during what part of the day.  It at times has felt like "too much" for me (not from the shaking, just from the "power" that bending the bows generates internally) so i just scaled it back and that has worked.  It is still my favorite part of Flying Phoenix Qi Gong

 

I'm new to this system, but so far I have found bending the bows to be epic, my favourite on volume 1. It is helping to realign my body quickly,  and I feel like I am in a new, more fluid state. I feel like I move as liquid after doing it, and my steps are lighter, like I feel I am almost floating when I cool down and walk afterwards.  I can't wait to see what the system holds after several months of practice. 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

On 20/08/2025 at 4:47 AM, BluePhoenix133 said:

Weird but i did DVD 3, so wide stance like bending the bows, and no shaking...although it felt like i almost would, when i did bending the bows earlier the shaking started before i did the breathing so i don't know guess my body needed to loosen up?

Bending the Bows is the most intense practice of the system I reckon, just keep doing it and it will go away eventually.

[Ryder004]

EDIT: NVM found the answer to my question.

Only question I cannot find is: I know there is a 3 hour rule between FPCK and any other spiritual system.

What about lifting/going to the gym? I know immediately after doing FPCK, Terry suggests light activities like walking/cleaning.

After finishing FPCK,  after 90m passed can I go hit the gym without causing any conflict with the QI generates from the practice?

My normal morning routine is gym at 9:00AM

Right now I wake up about 6:30, and start FPCK around 6:50 and usually done by 7:20(still my first week so not trying to go crazy).

So if my session is over at 7:20 can I still hit the gym at 9am or do I have to wait till a minimum till 10:20?

 

Edited August 23 by Ryder004

[zen-bear]

On 7/1/2025 at 3:57 PM, Annnon said:

 

Can someone please go more in-depth on this topic on why good quality sleep is needed or quote the original post?

 

Hello Annnon,

 

GM Doo Wai explained that for FP Qigong to be optimally effective, one needs to have regular restful sleep--i.e., for FP Qigong to work well, one cannot be sleep-deprived.
He gave this answer in reply to my question if FP Qigong can replace lost sleep--citing the fact that the Tao Tan Pai ("Taoist Elixir Method"), which I learned from Taoist priest Share K. Lew (1975 to 1992), has high Yogas called "The Nine Flowers" and "The Five Dragons" that can replace lost sleep and thus enable one to function at full strength and high mental acuity without have regular restful sleep.
GM Doo Wai and Taoist Priest/GM Share K. Lew were friends and peers since the moment they met in America, what GM Doo Wai described as "fellow kung fu men."  Each was the senior lineage holder of a complete and intact Taoist monastic tradition of kung fu, nei kung, medicine, and spiritualism.

Back to your question:   "...why good quality sleep is needed or quote the original post?"

Answer:   It's just how the FP Qigong yogic methodology (utilizing the percentage breathing formulas) works .  Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung, in contrast, works on a different yogic methodology that 's rooted in the cultivation of human sexual energy, what some Hindu Yogas and other Tantric systems call "the kundalini" energy  ("coiled snake").  FP Qigong, in contrast, does not focus on the kundalini energy or on any other type or "flavor" of energy--for no visualization of any kind is required in the practice of FP Qigong. 

This great dissimilarity in yogic mechanism between FP Qigong and Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung is reflected/manifested in the fact that strict celibacy must be observed when learning the Advanced Tao Tan Pai Yogas, while no celibacy is required at all when learning and practicing any levels of Flying Phoenix Qigong--or any other Yogas under the Bok Fu Pai umbrella, for that matter.  Thus, as I had posted in one of the early years of this thread:   when I asked GM Doo Wai (with classmates present) whether we needed to observe any duration of celibacy when learning FP Qigong or any of the advanced Bok Fu Pai meditations (as I had to do when I was learning the advanced Tao Tan Pai Yogas), he answered,
"Nah, you can knock yourselves out."

 

However, to explain in any detail why and how FP Qigong requires regular restful sleep in order to work well would require rigorous testing and study by neuroscience, for starters.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

P.S.   This is a photo of GM at the grand opening of Sifu Dougla Wong's second kung fu school in Parthenia, Ca in 1981:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227420095559787&set=a.10227420037518336