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I wonder if this is compatible to take   toghter with the damo mitchell course im doing right now    ?

If taking both programs together  wont harm somehow my advancement in damo mitchell neigong course ?

Dmo mitchell will soon open an online course in his "internal arts academy"   - here is a video he made about bagua : 
 

Im looking for all videos in depth and shallow  (though  i am now leaning to the more in depth now -  dont mind highly technical videos as well )  ,  this can be good resource not only for me but for all who read this thread  and wants to watch broader stuff  or more in depth stuff  than what i will be currently looking for
 

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Is it more of an overview? Are you wishing to become a TCM practitioner? Do you wish to get a Chinese Medicine perspective on your practice? Are you looking into it to heal an issue?

I want this for many reasons , would be nice to get a "Chinese Medicine perspective" on my practice  ,  would be good to get an overview ,  would be good to heal some issue i have , maybe one day would like to be a TCM  practitioner and i would have some good background 

Above all I am already spending a good amount of time watching youtube videos  ,  so i would like to replace it instead with watching  TCM related video  ... since its not a hard thing for me to watch videos (including the more technical ones)  and its replacing a not "productive"  activity ,   than there is no problem for me to watch something i am not specifically looking into ,  that is too shallow  for me or too in depth .... i just care about it being accurate    that i wont watch  BS videos that might unconsciously by diffusion insert false information

I have been looking for some good videos on TCM(= traditional chinese medicine)   ,   but dont want to absorb any bad information even if just by subconscious diffusion   ,  so would like to hear if people here have recommendation for TCM (= traditional chinese medicine)  videos 

Also i ran into this youtube channel  that seems to have good videos  ,  but not sure if the info in it is correct, so it would be nice to read if someone who have seen it and think the information shared in it is correct or not :   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXeKpuxltFA_FiLdMYLrXlA/videos

Wanted to share my thought ,     that the fact that its not possible to have a "block"  option at the moment  is  (one of)  the reasons i didn't explain in detail my view on why exactly i think a block option is a good idea ,  and i think probably its the same for other users who don't give their view on this subject    -  cause in some way its a bit of an effort and time waster (a full debate)    ,  so i believe the moment it was written (and its good it was written)   that it is not really a technical option right now,  it took out the motivation of members to speak about the need for it   ....    so my point is :

In the future  if there would be an option to add a block option to this forum  ,  it would be nice if someone (no need for an obligation  - just in case some moderator remembers this issue)    will  notify  the users here   -   by making a thread (i think better a new thread as opposed to bumping this one)  about this and opening this option to debate         (in a date when it would actually be a possibility so people would want to give their opinion on this ) 

@Taomeow 

since the above thing  im going to shamelessly tag you   just in case you missed  -  if you saw and just want to ignore for whatver reason  - give my post is a like  ( and if that will happen a few times than i will stop tagging you in genral) 

tagging you for my long post i wrote before -  i wonder if you know the main questions answer  :
 

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so everything that causes liquid to be gelatinous are good ?  the things have an effect only if i consume them in thier gelatinous forum ?

Just to add in a comment and not just like  -  that i join taomeow will  to  have a block option   (unlike the usless ignore option)

And i see some negative impact it can have  but i think the positive impact it will have is greater  

So if any day in the future  - it would available (technically) to add this option  - wanted to add that i think it would be a good thing to add

On 6/23/2020 at 2:06 PM, Taomeow said:

Apologies for not responding the first time, I meant to and forgot.

 ohh and i felt im being too pushy lol  

That was a great read  -  I dont eat meat (but im down to hear about it  and its effects and learn from that)  so im trying to figure out what i can have  as well as what i can find in my supermarket     

* For the record i have now enough to go by on my own  -   now its just fishing for extra info   so you dont have to answer all  - and in bold i put the main questions :

On 6/23/2020 at 2:06 PM, Taomeow said:

They don't "work" immediately, they are "slow"

 
I will try this  -     you mean they dont work immediately  as in they take a few hours to feel an effect   or that i need to consume them for a few days  or    a few weeks before i can see their effect ?

 so everything that causes liquid to be gelatinous are good ?  the things have an effect only if i consume them in thier gelatinous forum ?     i mean for example the parsley  - if i eat its leaves just like that in leaf form do they have the same effect ?       or for example  do potatoes  have the effect ?   (maybe the potato starch powder is more dense  - but it means the potato will also have a small effect?)      - or  potato startch but to add it to many dishes i make like pad thai  , will that have a good effect ?  -    i have now a few things in house  :  pesto paste  (From parsley from the garden - parsley little salt little garlic and lots of oil )  is it good?    i got industrial  jeli   with sugar some and some with sugar substitute  -   both of them not good?     jams are gelatinous  but if it has sugar than its not good ?   what about dairy products like yogurt ?  or puddings ?

cornstarch jelly?
Mămăligă   ?
tapioca ?

this things can be consumed with the meals ?  like i do water ?     like i will sit with the meal and a  big bowl of " kissel "   and just "drink"  it with a spoon between bites like i do with water ?

What about fruits and vegetables - some of them can be seen as  gelatinous   ... like watermelon ,  some peaches (the yellow inside ones)  , cucumber etc ?

i will go shopping soon   -  will look for stuff  so  im trying to figure out this thing better so if i ran into something in the store that is good  i will take it   thats why the many questions  - so i get the basic rules i go bye

@Piyadasi  Great replies  , even partial answers are good  (and defintly better than full nonsense replies)  ,  from the replies i get from everyone on this forum (and the internet in general and books , teachers etc)  take all good info i can and act as much as i can based on it

Thats why i ask many questions (that some users in this forum are annoyed by the amount and the fact i repeat them with different (but important) variations and see it as nitpicking)     like me wanting to get how much of an effect different stuff have  ( how bad it is i dont eat the vegetable a second after its picked  ...   or a year after its picked)  or to understand why stuff is recommended 

Another example is the drinking warm water which at winter time i do a lot even without connection to qigong  (just warm water to warm up  - i wonder if tea  no sugar is also good?)       but now at summer time where i live (especially in my house) its really warm and so consuming warm foods make me sweaty and cold ones cool me   -  thats another reason why i try to get as close as possible to understand how much of an effect things have

 

4 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

Google jin ye. 

 

When i googled before this was one of the results i got : 

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Jin

These fluids are clear, light, thin and watery, and circulate in the exterior of the body (skin and muscles) with the Wei Qi. Under control of the Lungs, which disseminate them to the skin and of the Upper Burner, which controls their transformation and movement.

Functions:

• To moisten and partly to nourish skin and muscles. (exuded as sweat, but also manifests as tears, saliva.
• To form a compound of Blood (thin out the Blood and prevent its stasis)

Ye

These are the more turbid, dense, and heavy fluids, and they circulate in the interior of the body with the Ying (Nutritive) Qi. Move relatively slowly.

Under control of (transformed by) Spleen and Kidneys, moved and excreted by Middle and Lower Burner.

Functions:

• To moisten the joints, spine, brain, bone marrow.
• Lubricate the "orifices of the sense organs" i.e. eyes, ears, nose and mouth

 

https://www.sacredlotus.com/go/foundations-chinese-medicine/get/jin-ye-body-fluids-vital-substance

but how that sits with it as a method ?
 

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and advocates "slow yin fluids" as a far superior method to rehydrate in most cases

@Taomeow  

just to make sure you see this  -    i would like to know what are the  "slow yin fluids"    -  even in general  so i can google search about them      (cause by myself im not sure if the results i get are the same thing you meant)


(  im re-tagging  in case you missed the first one  , if you dont reply than i take it you seen this just dont want to reply )

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 Basically, why would you want food that almost just gives you negative amounts of energy

why do you say it gives a negative amount of qi ? because of the contraction and sting feeling ?    does that feeling somehow make you think it drains qi or something like that ?
 

38 minutes ago, Piyadasi said:

Cold water && Ice cream? = yes;

Effect = bad;

How much = quite a bit;

Ignore = unwise;

popsicle -> warm? = no;

 

In human speech: don't ignore it if you want to get anywhere, it's just general health advice too, if you get sensitive enough, it's perfectly obvious why.

 
Its effect is cause the cold reach the ldt area (intestines?)  and than causes qi to move slower there which makes it harder to make changes to the ldt  ? 

would add also a question about frozen food that we reheat   (frozen vegetables mainly)   are they considered cold in some way or effect ? 

Does cold water effect the lower dantian ?  does ice cream  effect it ?   how it effects it , in what way  ?   and how much it effects it (is it a big effect or minor one you can ignore)  ?

also lets say cold water can really cool your body  but  some ice creams lets say a Popsicle  can get pretty warm before it really enters your throat - so does it really have a significant effect?

I wonder if anyone here has a view  about the TCM nutrition  book  :     " Healing With Whole Foods: Asian Traditions and Modern Nutrition"  written by paul Pitchford   ? 

@salaam123

this is the link to damo mitchell   "internal arts academy"        that costs 40$  per month  (or  440$ for a year in advance)   -  that starts from the basics  (and teaches also how to build the lower dantian )   :

https://damomitchell.com/

As i asked before about the need for isolation when training in qigong  and got the reply we need to isolate or else the yang qi  escapes to the earth (  the yin qi moves freely and that is what should happen)  and that you still  get benefit from training barefoot on the ground you lose some of the effectiveness (if i remeber was told something like 15%) 

...  So  the question is  what is a good isolation material  - what works what not :

How thick the material should be ?        ( 0.0001 cm / 0.1 cm  /  0.5 cm /  1 cm  / 2 cm  / 5 cm / 10 cm  ) 

What material it should be ?         ( rubber ?  cotton  ? )

Are shoes good ?    are tai chi shoes good ?  are slippers good ?   

Are socks good enough ?     what about really  old socks that are worn out  - can they work too ?

A bed sheet on the floor  -  a very thin one (is it too thin?) ?     

A bed sheet folded a few times ?

Can i use a towel i have    ?   or is a towel  too stimulating on the feet   so in that sense it takes off your mind from inside your body ? 


* Where i live its warm  -  if anything i go barefoot  just to cool a tiny bit , the house tiles which are granite porcelain are ab it cool   - but if i stand in place after a few seconds where i stand will be warm as well


(  I ask about material for isolation but if someone wants to say his views  about the subject of isolation its great as well -  about the need for isolation ,  about how it effects us ,  about how much it effects our practice etc)

I found this book from a book swapping stand and i wonder if its good  -   the name of the book is "practical feng shui"  by Simon G. Brown 

  I had it for some time and already read it  in the past , but now rediscovered it in the house and its dirty  so i can read it where i dont want to read other clean books im reading which are more important to me to read (about qigong practice and buddhism)  -  but just as a fun read to pass the time ....  but  than i wonder if i can  take some good concepts from it  on the way ,  or maybe  i can pick up  (even subconsciously) some bad advice  in case  this book has a high percentage of bad advice

So i wonder if this book is good  or maybe the advice in it is not that good but decent or maybe it is even misleading with harmful advice ?

@freeform 

does it matter in the  lower dan tian aspect  ,  if i drink ice cold water long after any practice i do ......  lets say a few hours after  before i go to sleep  i eat an ice cream  - would it have a negative effect  LDT wise ?

@Taomeow , @ilumairen

i do drink a lot  prior to eating as well  (and all through the day)      -   about chewing i think i chew pretty well  -  at least during orgnized meals ...  but maybe there is room to improvement there  ....  and about the book couldnt find the chapter online and im in the middle of another book 

 

the "slow yin fluids" do sound very promising  - i read it in the text , thought thats great than forgot  -       i tried to google search about it and didnt find much    -     are slow yin fluids   the same as  "yin tonics"  (one search result i got)  ?  

Thanks for the reply  -   what i wrote about the ldt wasnt clear   -

What i should have written is :  if  somehow  the cold water driking can effect the building process of the dantian ?   

i wonder if the fact im thirsty a lot  especially when i eat  means i have some health issue  that chinese medicine knows about    -  or is it just purely a bad habit 

 

is drinking water with your meals  bad  ?   and why   ?    

Im asking cause i heared something about it affecting the "fire"  aspect of digestion  or something like that

if drinking water with meals have a bad affect  in what areas does it have ? (as in a an effect from the qi aspect or from a spiritual aspect or from a health aspect etc )

how bad is it   ? 

is it bad just for example until you build your ldt  ?  or always bad ?        

does drinking water with your meals have a good side  ?

what about drinking water in general  not during meal ? 


(and since i seem some people get mad i ask this questions to make clear there is a reason  -  for instance to ask  how bad is it  , its not just nitpicking  -  cause i drink a lot of water with my meals  - it would be very hard for me to stop this habit  (i have a hard time eating without any water) , so if its bad i wonder how much of a difference it makes or how much i can ignore it)

What are your thoughts on stoicism ? 

Stoicism VS Buddhism ?             ( differences , similarities, benefits , disadvantages )

Stoicism VS Daoism ?   ( differences , similarities, benefits , disadvantages )

can you reach enlightenment with it alone ? 

@idiot_stimpy           true  it is   ,      with being with the pain and accepting it ,    by doing your chours  without wanting them to end  -  to be fully washing the dishes   to do your job without waiting for the clock to tick .................                     

but what about the moment where you need to make a more complex decision ?           how do you do it than ?  

how to "go with the flow"  and make "perfect"  decisions ?