Nungali

SUFI DANCE On certain nights I attend Sufi dance. I can't remember where it is or how I get there, or, for that matter, how I get home and back into my bed. I talked to a friend about it. He told me I was dreaming. But if it is a dream why do I wake up so sore and tired? Sometimes I have blisters on my feet. But I feel I'm getting somewhere with it, I'm no longer getting as dizzy as I used to. I seem to be developing more love and patience. I look good, people tell me. I was practicing a very difficult part of the dance last month. The teacher wore orange robes and the dance was very technical. The month before, a different teacher, (who wore a red robe) taught a simpler stamping dance, a somewhat angry yet purposeful dance. There was a teacher before that a beautiful woman who wore a silver robe, her dance was fluid and graceful. I didn't do very well. I think I became a little infatuated with her, it was hard to concentrate. I liked the blue teacher, his dance was joyous and expansive. Good things happened to me after his lesson. In my mundane life, that is. The green woman! Well, that was easy! But I was a little confronted. Well worth it, because after those lessons, I met her - in my mundane life. The Golden One seemed to be saying he is what I will become. I found him a little confusing. I haven't been taught by the black teacher yet, I have had a glimpse of her style. She is naked and black and sprays of stars and spiral galaxies cover her body. But now, it’s all mixed up. Sometimes I seem in one level of the dance, and at other times in another level. But lately there is no teacher. No particular colored robe and no difference between the me here in this part of the dance and that me there in that part of the dance and another me over there in another part of the dance. But at the same time I am out of the dance and watching myself and the other dancers. When that happens the dance becomes a huge astral entity, a massive cone of light with layers and bands of colors and dancers and teachers. Each colored circle, one on top of each other, diminishing in size; a huge cone of dancing, multi-colored, banded light floating and rotating amongst the blackness and stars of space. At times while I am in the dance other dancers come into my space and bounce and career off me spinning madly, grinning, singing and dancing off to their destinies on other paths and trajectories. In this part of the dance are wild eyed poets giggling on LSD, dancers that are leaping and floating like fauns and satyrs somersaulting leaving behind them trails of stars and sparkles. Lately I have connected with a dance partner. We dance exquisitely together, she looks just like my partner in the mundane world but lately she seems to have distracted attention. Something seems to be bothering her, perhaps it is me? It probably is. My dance is far from perfection. When I look up through the translucence above, I see exquisite dancers. They are vibrant and ecstatic. I want to be like them. They fall and tumble but this helps then to rise in their total control of the dance. Even when they misstep. I want to be like that. And when I look down I see the dancers below me still learning the dance. I remember when I made those mistakes. Some are awkward and squabbling like cranky penguins but others are concentrating and aspiring. But sometimes, when the dance blends with my mundane life and I seem stuck in the middle part of the dance. A crazy insane part of the dance that must be passed through to finish the dance. It does with me what it will and I can only respond to its energy and lose myself in the ecstasy of not being there. But I know I am there. Just as I know that at this moment life seems much too serious to be taken seriously and so much is happening all at once, that it must be a dance or a dream. But it matters not because one thing I have learnt is that no matter how hard the dance is, if I persevere and continually attempt to see life from the top of the cone, in my higher consciousness, with purified love, I will survive and rise up beyond the cone to the ecstasy of infinite space and feast upon the stars of life. ~ Nungali

."We never punish a nation until We send a Messenger" What .... you punish nations by sending a Messenger ?". That's harsh I thought messengers were supposed to help nations . And ummm ... "We have sent Messenger to every nation. Everybody is responsible of his/her acts since there have been a Messenger for every nation between Prophet Adam and Prophet Muhammad." What messenger to send to my Nation and my friends Bundjulung Nation ... where is their messenger? Where is messenger for Australia ? No Messenger , no punishment, so not responsible

The 'power of ignore'. This is great! I think he has me on ignore so I can say whatever I like about him and he doesn't respond ... I feel POWERFUL <flexes ... expands chest > I can defeat Isimsiz Biri's sword of cutting logic and witty argument with invisibility technique ... hang on ... did he just admit to trolling ... with a sword .... wade in to a thread as a troll and practice 8 direction cutting ? Problem is he appears to be using a feather duster

Of course they are so why do you keep using them and devolving your own arguments and other peoples threads and questions about various subjects INTO religious arguments YOURSELF ?????

I meant to add: Another reason is that many western systems kind of suppress the unconscious and they turn the Daimonic World into the Demonic. The eastern view seems more liberal, natural and accepting of the power of the unconscious and the Daimonic. (but it can also seem more religiously oriented hence the 'demonology' and 'miraculous ' flavours'.

I did that for years ... now I haven't had a nightmare for years, now the dreams I see are respectful and don't try to 'Lord it' over me. I also relieved the stressful situation of someone , continually visiting me and talking weird shit (like . from my front door asking how I would deal with him if he was with his mates and they were doing a home invasion. I threw a knife I kept behind my chair into the door frame next to his head. He didn't come back with that attitude again either

Some people 'hold' a lot in the unconscious .. for them. it is best to clear and balance that before opening 'Pandora's Box'.

Of course ... but that is just because you are a nicer person than me

It has great analogical value IMO If I am told to line up my body and push my weight through that it doesn't work as well as holding my 4 principles and extending ki through my opponent. But then again I am logically a materialist ... but artistically a mystic

Yes ... what I said in post 13 ... break 'ki' first ( a head butt to the face, some fingers in the eyes and a big toe in the testicles might break the 'ki' )

Yes, he is good at pushing inanimate objects. Maybe if he was allowed to 'break opponents Ki' first ... and then push ?

Set square stance ? http://www.teachme-dt.com/setsquare.jpg

Hmmm two things at once ... 1. Refrigeration. If the Stirling cycle engine is connected to the solar reflector to create a high heat source and the energy is drawn from a differential heat flow, to a cold output (heat in cool out) and that does x y z and drives a pump or generator to make electricity etc ... why not just use the cold sink as the refrigerator? Or simpler (?) ... I am thinking of the old kerosene powered fridges , if the solar dish can focus on a similar heat receptor that the kerosene flame was on it could work ... and cut out a whole lot of other stuff in the middle. As usual , with solar power, the issue is tracking to get a good constant output. 2. Magnetism and my earlier comment. " Earth's magnetic field ... seems so weak (takes a whole planet to more that teenie compass needle " ??? But a magnetic field is very strong as it can lift a nail against the whole gravitational field of the Earth. Also 'magnetism decays' - yeah? What causes the opposite, can it be boosted by energy going in, like heat?

Its all relevant to my situation (for me) 1. I could get a gas powered fridge but the small camping / caravan size one is too small for my needs and the big ones are Xpensive and troublesome IME. 2. With the earth's magnetic field that is exactly the source I am interested in but it seems so weak (takes a whole planet to more that teenie compass needle ??? ) . That is why I am interested in that "where does it go to ... and where does it come from" in a 'broken looped system' but WHY I want that is too far out, even for this thread ! But thanks for the input

. The sort of hell I am postulating is that those lines do connect and thus complete the circuit ... but they connect in a variant time space 'field' or 'continuum' Like the black / white hole thingo. And being able to access this type of magnetic curiosity could be a power source ... but a magnetic charge does dissipate eventually , apparently DAMN ! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S5p_MPAJGCA/T7bfvdo3XiI/AAAAAAAAAww/m9MzbUNWCFA/s400/shot-down.jpg The biggest issue I have with being off the grid ( a mini solar system I can set up, operate and repair , gas bottles for cooking on the stove {especially in summer } and wood for heating / oven in winter) is refrigeration ... but then I found this : https://www.google.com.au/search?q=magnetic+refrigeration&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KniFUrDBGMOckAXnyYHYDg&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1093&bih=468 might be feasible in yeaaaars to come , but now v. $$$$$$$$ ! .

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This is not the correct version of the picture appropriate for this thread. Look at this version in the collection of Romio Shrestha look at the bottom right corner where we can see flaming skeletons wrestling in hell ... is that two of the members here ? http://books.google.com.au/books?id=DH9_dGFbekQC&pg=PA285&lpg=PA285&dq=wheel+of+deluded+existence+collection+of+romio+shrestha&source=bl&ots=y7EPRFNHpV&sig=3H9zdkzikpRbyfizxaWE_J0n_4A&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qlWFUov-JaS5iQeXu4GwAw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wheel%20of%20deluded%20existence%20collection%20of%20romio%20shrestha&f=false

I have the same deck ... they are all blank ... until I quickly write on one ( with one of my 'witty and intellectual responses' ) here is a card in response to you ( hang on .... scribbling) " You live in poo ! " <smug> that showed 'em ! Now I go on to defeat my next opponent - Hai!

I don't . Shall we post a poll?

Brian, on 14 Nov 2013 - 10:25, said: First hit: http://www.answering...las/suicide.htm I would have thought that instead of making silly insults you would have used knowledge to defeat your opponents and shared some wise advice about Islam, Holy Quran and Prophet Mohammed ??? You should point out that with this suicide story Mohammed did not say he did that ... the words that describe the event are not Mohammed's, it is not in the Holy Quran, it is story via Al-Zuhri’s addition that is not sourced properly because Al-Zhuri does not give a valid reference, is very clear from his qualifying clause, “as we have come to know”. This is no more of a reference than 'it is said' ... or 'some believe' ... or just gossip! Isimsiz Biri ! Fight for Prophet Mohammed properly !

http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/magneticDipole.jpg http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/magfi.gif Well ... since people are throwing questions at scientists I have a magnetic question; Looking at a magnetic field pattern around a bar magnet (with paper and filings) or around the Earth (as I have seen depicted in images) the 'lines of force' ( force? intensities in the field ? ) run out from one pole (-) at a steep angle, hug the magnet bar or sphere and run in (+) at the other. Yeah ? As the lines run out from the pole, closer to the exact pole, they curve less and travel further out from the surface then curve back in to a similar position in the opposite pole ( because nearer the centre they emerge with or have more force ?). And so on, until dead centre of the pole a line flows straight out of the pole and one flows straight in at the opposite pole and all are aligned along the magnetic axis . Yes? If that is right my question is where do these ends of these central straight lines meet to keep that force flow happening? All the other lines seem to flow out one pole and curve into the other in a + and - magnetic charge. Or am I basically wrong about magnetism ? (I thought was a spin direction) ?

At least prefix your comments with PING! and PONG!

Wow ! Thank you ! ( " .... and these are a few of my favourite things .... " )

Not really ... I can see a bit further sometimes as I stand on the shoulders of my teachers ... and I try to see the similarities where things and people can relate to and understand each other ( Mr 'chop suey' ) There is one or two learned fellow 'lurking' about her though YES! I could go on and on ... their Zoroastrian cultural heritage site is a gas. A friend saw that picture and freaked out as she had visions of him ... she thought he was some type of ghost of a fireman that had died in the burnt out building next door ... but that didn't add up for her . Also one maybe should realise that that pic may be drawn in a certain way to make that connection (okay I am cynical as well ) - it is a comic book after all Yes ... I have a poem ; 'Angel of Light' (I will get around to posting it in mystical poetry thread at some stage Not a fan of that idea ... as it just makes me ask "Where did the 'Atlanteans' get it from then How about we acknowledge the genius and brilliance of the ancients (like the Old Kingdom Egyptians ) in and of themselves they were 'ordinary people' using their potential ... I think the western ego tries to attribute alien technology and stone cutting mirrors and all that stuff as we just cant conceive that they DID do it with the tools and minds at their disposal as our tools and minds just aren't up to scratch .... and we don't like to take a hit at our modern egos ... we ARE wrecking things you know (Australian Aboriginal culture preserved themselves their culture and lived in harmony with their environment without harming it for over 40,000 years ... we have nearly wrecked ours in a few hundred ... how great is modern man ( sarcasm with the cynicism now)

THE AUGOEIDES. * * From a letter of Fra P. Lytton calls him Adonai in 'Zanoni,' and I often use this name in the note-books. Abramelin calls him Holy Guardian Angel. I adopt this: 1. Because Abramelin's system is so simple and effective. 2. Because since all theories of the universe are absurd it is better to talk in the language of one which is patently absurd, so as to mortify the metaphysical man. 3. Because a child can understand it. Theosophists call him the Higher Self, Silent Watcher, or Great Master. The Golden Dawn calls him the Genius. Gnostics say the Logos. Zoroaster talks about uniting all these symbols into the form of a Lion --- see Chaldean Oracles. * *A similar Fire flashingly extending through the rushings of Air, or a Fire formless whence cometh the Image of a Voice, or even a flashing Light abounding, revolving, whirling forth, crying aloud. Also there is the vision of the fire-flashing Courser of Light, or also a Child, borne aloft on the shoulders of the Celestial Steed, fiery, or clothed with gold, or naked, or shooting with the bow shafts of Light, and standing on the shoulders of the horse; then if thy meditation prolongeth itself, thou shalt unite all these symbols into the Form of a Lion." Anna Kingsford calls him Adonai (Clothed with the Sun). Buddhists call him Adi-Buddha --- (says H. P. B.) The Bhagavad-Gita calls him Vishnu (chapter xi.). The Yi King calls him "The Great Person." The Qabalah calls him Jechidah. * We also get metaphysical analysis of His nature, deeper and deeper according to the subtlety of the writer; for this vision --- it is all one same phenomenon, variously coloured by our varying Ruachs * * Ruach: the third form, the Mind, the Reasoning Power, that which possesses the Knowledge of Good and Evil. --- is, I believe, the first and the last of all Spiritual Experience. For though He is attributed to Malkuth, * * Malkuth: the tenth Sephira. and the Door of the Path of His overshadowing, He is also in Kether (Kether is in Malkuth and Malkuth in Kether --- "as above, so beneath"), and the End of the "Path of the Wise" is identity with Him. So that while he is the Holy Guardian Angel, He is also Hua * *The supreme and secret title of Kether. and the Tao.* * The great extreme of the Yi King. For since Intra Nobis Regnum deI * * I.N.R.I. all things are in Ourself, and all Spiritual Experience is a more of less complete Revelation of Him. Yet it is only in the Middle Pillar* *Or "Mildness," the Pillar on the right being that of "Mercy," and that on the left "Justice." These refer to the Qabalistic Tree of Life. that His manifestation is in any way perfect. The Augoedes invocation is the whole thing. Only it is so difficult; one goes along through all the fifty gates of Binah * * Binah: the third Sephira, the Understanding. She is the Supernal Mother, as distinguished from Malkuth, the Inferior Mother. (Nun) is attributed to the Understanding; its value is 50. Vide "The Book of Concealed Mystery," sect. 40. at once, more or less illuminated, more or less deluded. But the First and the Last is this Augoeides Invocation. [snaffled from someone else's work] ..