-ꌼęŚę§ ęŚąęŚ ęŚżęŚśęŚŞęŚşęŚ´- Posted Saturday at 05:15 PM On 05/12/2025 at 4:37 PM, ChiDragon said: It is because there is no such thing as qi energy that someone can feel it. How long have you been practicing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꌼęŚę§ ęŚąęŚ ęŚżęŚśęŚŞęŚşęŚ´- Posted Saturday at 06:00 PM (edited) @PestiferMundi since no one else is helping out Iâll post about another system I do:  -!Answer!- 1.1. Name of the qigong training method that allowed you to feel qi energy for the first time (really important that it's the first time, as doing something comes a lot easier once you've experienced it once, and practicing other things after that first time may have only been effective because of that first time)?  Authentic Neigong (feeling qi for the second time)  1.2. If it wasn't exactly qigong (Chinese origin) but of some other origin (e.g. Korean "Sundo" or Japanese "Kiko"), what is it and where does it originate (answer all of the following questions as you would if it was a qigong method)?  N/A  1.3. State the source of the qigong training method (book, course, etc. - include the author/creator name) - Not quite sure about the forum rules, but if you aren't allowed to directly link to it because it's seen as "advertising" or something else unacceptable, I'm sure you can at least just state the name of it and the name of the author/creator.  https://authenticneigong.com/ 2. What was the qi energy experience and what made it "undeniable" to you that it was qi energy (what distinguishes it from all the other body sensations or energetic experiences you've already had, that made you believe it was qi)?  Feels like heat or electricity inside the body  3. What should one avoid doing during practice that may unintentionally get in the way of generating that energetic experience (if the source you stated already goes into detail about this then you can just say to refer to the source material)?  Refer to source material  4. Were you using any herbs, drugs, or hallucinogenic substances within a week of that experience, or on the very day of that experience?  No 5. How long did you practice before you first had that experience? (e.g. around 1 month)?  A few weeks. After around 3 years my wife is able to feel electricity in my lower dantian when she touches it. 6. How often did you practice (e.g. every day or only on weekends), how long was the practice session (e.g. 20 minutes), and how many sessions (e.g. two 20 minute sessions per day or one session)?  About 40 mins a day 7.1. Did you practice any martial arts prior to that qigong training method or did you practice it along-side the method, if yes then name it/them (if there is a book/course/etc. source, please state it too)?  No  7.2. If yes to Question 7.1, is the martial art you practiced directly related to the qigong method (e.g. The Yiquan martial art from my observation basically has a hardwired qigong training method - Zhan Zhuang)?  N/A 8. Did you practice any kind of occult/meditative exercises prior to that qigong training method or did you practice it along-side the method, if yes then name it/them (if there is a book/course/etc. source, please state it too)?  N/A  9. If you are willing, include any other details you think would be relevant to the training and the goal of experiencing qi energy for the first time?  I practiced Flying Phoenix for 5 weeks before starting this  10. What are the possible risks of the method if overdone, if not done properly, or even if done properly as the method is "extreme" (assuming the practice bears such risks)?  Maybe qi going where it shouldnât be, or too much qi in a certain area. Start slowly and build up to be safe, follow the timing instructions.  11. Does the method have advanced levels/goals after the first bare minimum goal of experiencing qi energy for the first time and what are they? (e.g. Flying Phoenix Qigong has multiple volume dvds, never tried it but if the volume 1 standing exercises allowed me to feel qi energy, the next obvious step would be to continue training it and then move onto the volume 2 seated meditations, but not all qigong methods have such a clear and outlined path so that's why I'm asking this question)?  Level 1 â˘Activate and establish the dantien â˘Open and fill channels â˘Cultivate and store qi  Level 2 (after 1 1/2 years) â˘Links Qi to the hands â˘Move Qi inside the body â˘Refine QI  Level 3 (after 3 1/2 years) â˘Refine the Qi â˘Compress the Qi  Level 4 (after 4 1/2 years) â˘Enlarge the Channels â˘Refine Qi Edited Saturday at 06:57 PM by -ꌼęŚę§ ęŚąęŚ ęŚżęŚśęŚŞęŚşęŚ´- 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PestiferMundi Posted Saturday at 06:24 PM On 05/12/2025 at 12:37 PM, ChiDragon said: there is no such thing as qi energy that someone can feel it. 1. Either way this is something I would want to test for myself. In the same way single comment online won't convince me of something, a single comment also won't dissuade me from thinking it's possible either. Â 2. If you are wrong I hope you never find out at this point because it would only frustrate you. It seems like you've been practicing for years. Imagine finding out that you've dedicated a good chunk of your life to something "fake". 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted Saturday at 06:29 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, PestiferMundi said: Imagine finding out that you've dedicated a good chunk of your life to something "fake". I hope I'll never find that out. 𤣠I wish you luck with success in your endless discovery. đ Edited Saturday at 06:32 PM by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29Gathering Posted Saturday at 07:27 PM (edited) . Edited Saturday at 08:49 PM by 29Gathering ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29Gathering Posted Saturday at 07:34 PM On 12/1/2025 at 2:57 PM, -ꌼęŚę§ ęŚąęŚ ęŚżęŚśęŚŞęŚşęŚ´- said:   You can do it standing, seated or lying down. You can ignore the part about the ginger.  Try it out and let me know how it feels!   Can vouch for this. Have done this a few times in the past few months, the feeling from this is different and very interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PestiferMundi Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM 6 minutes ago, 29Gathering said: It was not much of a method so it didn't have structure. I mean... you didn't actually state the method lol (no name or source). I kind of wondering if you made a mistake and forgot it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29Gathering Posted Saturday at 08:27 PM (edited) Ok, I removed what I said since the questions were unanswerable in my case since how I experienced for the first time as a beginner was different than was asked and the criteria for answering was more strict than I understood. Recommend Grandmaster Doo Wai videos practice to get the first experience of qi even though that wasn't how I got it. Edited Saturday at 09:25 PM by 29Gathering original questions were unanswerable in my case 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PestiferMundi Posted Saturday at 08:47 PM 6 minutes ago, 29Gathering said: Also why I said I can't answer this perfectly. I'm sorry but it isn't even remotely an answer, the main part of the answer (to my actual questions) is to get an actual practice that anyone new to qigong can test themselves, and all you've given is a story and a vague description of a practice (that upon searching would produce multiple suggestions online). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꌼęŚę§ ęŚąęŚ ęŚżęŚśęŚŞęŚşęŚ´- Posted yesterday at 06:12 AM 10 hours ago, 29Gathering said:  Can vouch for this. Have done this a few times in the past few months, the feeling from this is different and very interesting.  9 hours ago, 29Gathering said: Recommend Grandmaster Doo Wai videos practice to get the first experience of qi even though that wasn't how I got it. Yes it definitely is one of the best videos for introducing people to qi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites