Sanity Check Posted 12 hours ago Jesus was crucified on a wooden cross. Christians wear crucifixes in remembrance of this great victory. But how does that work? How is the Son of God being crucified a victory for christians? Part of the answer to this question may have been uncovered by archaeologists digging through the remains of ancient roman cities. While examining the contents of ancient roman trash, archaeologists were horrified to discover large numbers of human remains. Not in scattered or isolated incidents. But rather as if the practice of disposing of human corpses in trash were the set standard for ancient roman society. While the human remains found at trash sites may have belonged exclusively to slaves. This reflects one of the most underrated and unappreciated aspects to how Christ's fate is a victory. In a way that can be measured and quantified via empirical methods. Prior to Jesus the standard for society was human life having no value. There was no thought towards helping the poor or the needy. Indifference and apathy towards the downtrodden were standard fare. One of the main driving forces behind the spread of christianity was its invention of elaborate welfare programs for the poor and needy. Christianity treated people as if their lives were precious and had value. Even if they were poor or sick. This was a revolutionary and mind blowing concept for its time, fueling the spread of christianity across the world. Thanks to this, we all spectacularly benefit from the christian moral framework greatly elevating standards of justice, life and prosperity. A great victory not only for christians but for all. Of course, none of this happens without the Crucifixion. One of the key points to note here is forces of evil crucifying Jesus carries a massive net effect of making life significantly harder for themselves. Over the past 2,000 years since the Crucifixion cases of war, slavery, genocide significantly decreased. Prior to the Crucifixion Lot could not find 10 moral people living in Sodom. After the Crucifixion the number and proportion of moral people in the world increased substantially. The number of moral people per capita today is much higher than in the era of Sodom. This is reflected by homicide, crime and violence rates per capita hovering at all time lows pre COVID. If a price tag were attached to crucifying Jesus the cost would be unaffordably expensive for team evil. So overwhelmingly expensive that the smart move is to NOT crucify Jesus and spend the day listening to Taylor Swift albums instead. It is a mistake to crucify people under circumstances where the net effect will be shifting the world in an opposite direction than intended. This is why christians wear crucifixes as symbols of victory rather than defeat. Even if they themselves do not comprehend the specific circumstances behind it. In observing evil, their quest is to diminish the number of moral people in the world, to reshape the world in their own image. But if crucifying Jesus multiplied morality & multiplied the number of moral people in the world. Would targeting and killing other good and moral christians carry a similar net effect? Therefore, if evil is to have a chance of victory against forces of good, evil must restrain itself from crucifying Jesus and those like Him. Give me feedback please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 8 hours ago Apparently there have been 16 crucified saviors. Perhaps it takes a while to get it right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World's_Sixteen_Crucified_Saviors 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 7 hours ago Not to forget 'Our Master ' Mansur el Hallaj ; Arguments for a stake: The Greek word stauros primarily means an upright stake or pole. Another word, xylon, is used synonymously and means "wood," "stake," or "tree". Some argue this means Jesus died on a single upright pole, citing that some early sources use these words in their basic meaning of a stake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 7 hours ago then again , some suggest that the idea of Jesus at the stake refers to the last supper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites