The fallacy with the notion of breath and energy.

[ChiDragon]

I was reading randomly online investigating what  people say about directing the breath and energy during meditation. From understanding, it is a fallacy to say that taken in the oxygen and energy or directing the breath and energy inside the body. Unfortunately, perhaps some people are took it for granted. 

 

I will quote some of the texts and point out the fallacy.

Edited September 20 by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

Nasal Breathing:
Most breathing, both inhalation and exhalation, are done through the nose to have better control and direct the breath and energy. 

Edited October 3 by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

1. 4. Focus on Relaxation:

   Throughout the practice, maintain a state of relaxation in your shoulders and lungs to facilitate deeper breathing. 
2. 5. Repeat:

   Continue this process for several minutes, allowing for a deep and full breath to take in oxygen and energy. 

[Lairg]

When I breathe in, I take in life force from the Cosmos.

 

Sometimes I direct that life force to deficient areas of the physical body

 

 

[ChiDragon]

54 minutes ago, Lairg said:

When I breathe in, I take in life force from the Cosmos.

 

Sometimes I direct that life force to deficient areas of the physical body

 

 

If that is true, then, what else you are breathing in that you are not aware of? Is it possible that you might be breathing some other bad force along with the cosmic life force. That which might cause harm to your body?

Edited September 14 by ChiDragon

[Nungali]

Micro plastics are in the air now . 

[ChiDragon]

Micro plastics are measurable as opposed to some unknown force in the air which is not. However, oxygen are measurable and it was known it helps to produce energy in the body. The cosmic force in the air is an imaginary force which is causing beyond reasonable doubt.

Edited September 15 by ChiDragon

[Lairg]

13 minutes ago, ChiDragon said:

If that is true, then, what else you are breathing in that you are not aware of?

 

I am careful about where I live and go, and what I take into my physical, emotional and mental bodies.  I keep EMR exposure to a minimum.

 

There are no apparent chem trails and I have yet to detect graphene in the air

 

 

[Lairg]

3 minutes ago, ChiDragon said:

the cosmic force in the air is an imaginary force

 

Unless the universe is the living body of a great entity

 

 

[ChiDragon]

3 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 

I am careful about where I live and go, and what I take into my physical, emotional and mental bodies.  I keep EMR exposure to a minimum.

 

There are no apparent chem trails and I have yet to detect graphene in the air

 

 

In that case, then, please don't forget to wear a gas mask when you walk on a busy street.

[Sanity Check]

This thread is a good reminder to me.

 

To breathe more.

 

And breathe more deeply.

[thelerner]

In Ki-Aikido they separated breathing exercises from meditation practice.  I've always liked trying different breathing rhythms, in Aikido they'd do very long 1 minute cycle, a minute in, minute out.  Quite difficult, but cheating was allowed til it was doable.  Lately, I like 7in-7hold-7out for 30 minutes.  

 

After doing a breathing exercise, your normal unguided breath lengthens,  allowing you to move deeper faster during meditative sitting.

 

[ChiDragon]

On 9/18/2025 at 11:57 AM, thelerner said:

Lately, I like 7in-7hold-7out for 30 minutes.

Now, I am constantly breathing slow and deep until a large amount of breath sink into the dantian(LDT). Without holding my breath, I continuously breathing in with a tiny bit of air through my nose into my lung. Up to a point that I cannot breathe in anymore air, then, I exhale slowly until I am out of breath. Hence I repeat the same cycle. 

I think this is a good practice when I am arm wrestling with my brother-in-laws. I can see their faces turning red while holding their breath. I was peaceful and calm while regulating my breath. I was complimented by one of the sister-in-laws. She was saying look at him. He is so calm and the face didn't turn red and his arm didn't even move!

Edited September 19 by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

On 9/14/2025 at 2:11 PM, ChiDragon said:

Nasal Breathing:
Most breathing, both inhalation and exhalation, are done through the nose to have better control and direct the breath and energy. 

The fallacy here is your body can only direct your breath but not energy.

Edited October 3 by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

On 9/14/2025 at 2:17 PM, ChiDragon said:

5. Repeat:
..... allowing for a deep and full breath to take in oxygen and energy. 

Again, a full breath can only take in oxygen but not energy. The energy was produced within the body cells. To be exact, it is the mitochondria that was converting the glucose with oxygen into energy.

[Lairg]

32 minutes ago, ChiDragon said:

a full breath can only take in oxygen but not energy.

 

Unless the Earth Mother is alive

 

In which case our human forms are cells within the body of the EM

 

 

[ChiDragon]

18 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 

Unless the Earth Mother is alive

 

In which case our human forms are cells within the body of the EM

 

 

The human body relies on the health of the cells to be alive. Does the EM depend on humans to live?

[Lairg]

35 minutes ago, ChiDragon said:

Does the EM depend on humans to live?

 

It seems that humanity is a very recent organ within the EM.  

 

Who could have imagined that growth could occur in the Cosmos?

 

 

[Jenn]

15 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

The human body relies on the health of the cells to be alive. Does the EM depend on humans to live?

 

Not all cells in the body are part of the animal. Some are there for their own benefit. 

 

Like the cold cells I am currently fighting off. Bastards can stay away from both my energy and my breath (in the few intermittent moments I can get air through all the mucus...)

[ChiDragon]

4 hours ago, Jenn said:

 

Not all cells in the body are part of the animal. Some are there for their own benefit. 

 

Like the cold cells I am currently fighting off. Bastards can stay away from both my energy and my breath (in the few intermittent moments I can get air through all the mucus...)

The healthy cells in the immune system will keep the foreigners out of the body. Just fine tune the body to the ultimate state of homeostat with qigong. 

[Lairg]

31 minutes ago, ChiDragon said:

The healthy cells in the immune system will keep the foreigners out of the body.

 

The germ theory of disease has often failed experimental testing.  Some prefer the terrain theory of disease.

 

Still others look more deeply - into trauma and relationships

 

Others consider karmic influences to be greater still

 

 

[Jenn]

18 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

The healthy cells in the immune system will keep the foreigners out of the body. Just fine tune the body to the ultimate state of homeostat with qigong. 

 

New threats and diseases often get past the immune system, it takes time for the organism to recognize the threat and build an appropriate defense.

 

Probably why we are just now starting to see the inflammation symptoms kicking it. Early defense usually involves raising temperature, reduced ability to recover / bounce back, fatigue, reduced activity - while the "TCell army" amasses for a more targeted approach.

 

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This was a lame joke I'm not sure landed. You are Lairg were discussing the EM as an organism, I was adding in that if we are cells within an EM organism, that doesn't necessitate that we are a part of her, we might in fact just be invading cells.

 

Does a virus know it is a virus, or does it just act according to its own nature?
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