"may all beings be happy" context?

[old3bob]

 

Has anyone come across context for the big hearted Buddhist saying of, "may all beings be happy" ?  Taken literally or without context it would include all Beings including those that willfully choose and or practice evil? (and which makes them happy)

 

[forestofclarity]

Do you think that truly happy beings would commit evil acts? 

[old3bob]

3 hours ago, forestofclarity said:

Do you think that truly happy beings would commit evil acts? 

 

does the saying give that presumptive context, btw FOC do you truly understand evil?

Edited Sunday at 04:35 PM by old3bob

[BigSkyDiamond]

3 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

Has anyone come across context for the big hearted Buddhist saying of, "may all beings be happy" ?  Taken literally or without context it would include all Beings including those that willfully choose and or practice evil? (and which makes them happy)

 

 

one of the most powerful acts a person can do, is to bless everyone, including their enemies.

what you "put out there" comes back to you.

what you broadcast is delivered to you.   so "be careful what you wish for"

 

Edited Sunday at 04:28 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[old3bob]

10 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

one of the most powerful acts a person can do, is to bless everyone, including their enemies.

what you "put out there" comes back to you.

what you broadcast is delivered to you. " be careful what you wish for"

 

what did Jesus  (or what any spiritual master would)  do when dealing with evil, to begin with he did not bless it...

Edited Sunday at 04:37 PM by old3bob

[BigSkyDiamond]

darkness does not extinguish darkness.  it just adds more darkness to the world.

each of us individually makes the choice what we broadcast.

hate begets hate.   is that what we want to propagate and promote and increase in this world?

 

Edited Sunday at 04:40 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[old3bob]

4 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

darkness does not extinguish darkness.  it just adds more darkness to the world.

 

 

Jesus did not use darkness to rid the possessed of darkness, please get in context if you can?

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

7 minutes ago, old3bob said:

Jesus did not use darkness to rid the possessed of darkness, please get in context if you can?

 

well the context of the opening post for this thread is a Buddhist tradition. It is powerful.
 

May all beings be peaceful.
May all beings be happy.
May all beings be safe.
May all beings awaken to the light of their true nature.
May all beings be free.

Edited Sunday at 04:48 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

"The Dhammapada teaches us: “Hatred is never appeased by hatred in this world; by nonhatred alone is hatred appeased. This is an eternal law.” Although anger can indicate that there is injustice or harm happening, it’s easy to slip into ill will toward the targets of our anger. It can be momentarily satisfying to wish harm on another, but the harm rebounds on ourselves. It’s the proverbial drinking of the poison and hoping the other person gets sick. A phrase like “May you be happy and healthy,” directed to the source of our anger, can help purify us of this poison."

 

from Lion's Roar

Loving Kindness:  May All Beings Be Happy

 

Edited Sunday at 04:57 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

47 minutes ago, old3bob said:

do you truly understand evil?

 

what is your understanding of "evil" in Buddhism?  

it sounds like you are grappling with reconciling "what Jesus" said or did with what Buddhism says and does.

 

32 minutes ago, old3bob said:

Jesus did not use 

41 minutes ago, old3bob said:

what did Jesus 

Edited Sunday at 05:13 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

it's not about what others are doing.

it's about how  we feel about what others are doing.  

what is our reaction, our response

 

that is our point of power, within ourself.

and as a byproduct, this then brings about change in the world.  

AND it changes how we see the world.

 

Edited Sunday at 05:25 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[old3bob]

1 hour ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

what is your understanding of "evil" in Buddhism?  

it sounds like you are grappling with reconciling "what Jesus" said or did with what Buddhism says and does.

 

 

Keep on deflecting...

Anyway I'd say most forms of Buddhism (and Bon) have ways and means
(aka fierce guardian's) to address evil, evil spirits, etc.. (with no dilly dallying around)

 

Speaking of "eastern" ways what did Rama do with Ravana, to begin with he didn't roll over with niceties'.

Edited Sunday at 06:48 PM by old3bob

[old3bob]

2 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

well the context of the opening post for this thread is a Buddhist tradition. It is powerful.
 

May all beings be peaceful.
May all beings be happy.
May all beings be safe.
May all beings awaken to the light of their true nature.
May all beings be free.

 

ok the 4th line is conditional context and without it the other lines are at least problematic per what I've been trying to get at...

[forestofclarity]

2 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

does the saying give that presumptive context, btw FOC do you truly understand evil?

 

I've never heard a teacher give such teachings without some sort of context. Buddhism isn't a series of stand-alone axioms, it is a whole tradition, usually transmitted from a living teacher to a student. 

[BigSkyDiamond]

2 hours ago, old3bob said:

what any spiritual master would)  do when dealing with evil

 

the master recognizes anything and everything as a mirror, reflection, and outpicturing of their own inner state.

and resolves it from within

 

[old3bob]

15 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

the master recognizes anything and everything as a mirror, reflection, and outpicturing of their own inner state.

and resolves it from within

 

 

sounds profound but nope for dealing with evil in the manifest worlds, and for a master that has already overcome things within themselves.

Edited Sunday at 07:31 PM by old3bob

[old3bob]

24 minutes ago, forestofclarity said:

 

I've never heard a teacher give such teachings without some sort of context. Buddhism isn't a series of stand-alone axioms, it is a whole tradition, usually transmitted from a living teacher to a student. 

 

you chose not to answer my previous question which is telling...

[BigSkyDiamond]

5 minutes ago, old3bob said:

sounds profound but nope for dealing with evil in the manifest worlds, and for a master that has already overcome things within themselves.

 

it is always only and ever

resolved within 

[old3bob]

11 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

it is always only and ever

resolved within 

 

transcendental by-passing doesn't work for dealing with worlds and its Beings...

Edited Sunday at 07:47 PM by old3bob

[Cobie]

 

 

47 minutes ago, old3bob said:

… dealing with evil in the manifest worlds …

 

29 minutes ago, old3bob said:

transcendental by-passing doesn't work for dealing with worlds and its Beings...

I admire Titus Brandsma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Brandsma (his shrine is in my neighbourhood). He resisted, got put in a concentration camp, spent his time there talking to the others about mysticism. I like the blend.
 

 

Edited Sunday at 08:17 PM by Cobie

[BigSkyDiamond]

23 minutes ago, old3bob said:

transcendental by-passing doesn't work for dealing with worlds and its Beings...

 

So let's look at spiritual bypassing:  a tendency to use spiritual ideas and practices to sidestep or avoid facing unresolved emotional issues, psychological wounds, and unfinished developmental tasks.

 

It is also bypassing to dismiss and reject core foundational spritual principles as "platitudes" "niceties" and "rolling over."  For the very same reasons.

 

Edited Sunday at 08:10 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

it is like watching someone very thirsty and begging for water, and then pushing away the water when it is presented.  repeatedly.

 

Edited Sunday at 08:17 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[forestofclarity]

47 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

you chose not to answer my previous question which is telling...

 

Because I don't understand it. 

[Cobie]

 

2 minutes ago, forestofclarity said:

Because I don't understand it. 

 

That’s me most of the time here.  
 

 

Edited Sunday at 08:21 PM by Cobie

[liminal_luke]

7 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

Has anyone come across context for the big hearted Buddhist saying of, "may all beings be happy" ?  Taken literally or without context it would include all Beings including those that willfully choose and or practice evil? (and which makes them happy)

 

 

You raise a great point old3bob but May All Beings Be Happy Except The Evil Ones doesn´t trip off the tongue.