Stranger things

[Taomeow]

Interesting.  "Tao gives birth to one, one gives birth to two, two give birth to three, three give birth to ten thousand things."  This statement, physically and biologically absolutely accurate for our 3D world,* contains within itself "laws" that can't be broken by 3D beings, whether domesticated or wild, whether benign or malicious. 

 

Now of course beings from a realm that has more dimensions can overcome these limitations unless there's a law that stops them.  But determining whether those interdimensional criminals are the ones responsible for our plight is above my pay grade.

 

*Tao: from wuji with no dimensions, to one which is a single point, to two which is a 2D line, to the 3D structure that breaks out of the flat 2D plane into the next dimension, to ten thousand things you can build out of these building blocks by stacking them together this way and that way. 

A 4D being can manipulate objects and entities of a 3D world as easily as you can draw on a 2D surface of a sheet of paper or type on a 2D surface of your computer screen.  If they choose to write malicious code, they can.  Scary, huh? 

You can write outrageous laws on a flat sheet of paper and 2D beings will obey them.  4D beings can write outrageous laws into a 3D world and we will obey them. 

The only way to not break the laws of nature is to imitate it ("tao patterns itself on itself"), approach nature as complete and perfect, and write no additional code into that.  I don't know who's that wise (or that lucky) but it's not us.       

[old3bob]

 

"Interesting.  "Tao gives birth to one, one gives birth to two, two give birth to three, three give birth to ten thousand things."  This statement, physically and biologically absolutely accurate for our 3D world,* contains within itself "laws" that can't be broken by 3D beings, whether domesticated or wild, whether benign or malicious. " 

 

My interpretation is that all manifestations, dimensions,  forms, beings,  both subtle as with light and gross as with dense matter are ultimately under the law of and within the overall One.  (which will also "return" at the end of its life aka the cosmic cycle)

 

pretty much agree on the 2d,3d,4d superseding steps. And lots of the  other stuff  is also  above my pay grade ;-).

 

if the Great Tao/Mystery  could be broken then we would be SOL, or would never have gotten to where that could even occur. 

 

[Nungali]

7 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

Cats do break the law they are under.  Granted domesticated cats are under domesticated man's law -- but they do break it unless the owner bends them into submission with early detachment from mother, nutritional deficiencies and toxicities, veterinary iatrogenic damage, impoverished non-stimulating environments, obligatory boredom and loneliness and removal of parental and mating behaviors via surgical mutilations, outright cruelty, and other human laws a cat may be too overwhelmingly changed to break.  

 

We are in the same boat.  No one knows what non-domesticated man is like.  (Let alone non-domesticated woman.)  But I have a hunch that domestication breaks all the laws of nature, whether in man or in cat or in cattle.  Whatever we think up to take their place serves somebody I guess -- but hardly the species itself.  Somebody else.  The owner.   

 

 

You never had a teenage son  ?  

[Nungali]

5 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

from a wider perspective I'd say the law of the One, the law of the Two, and the law of Three are not broken, but the law of the ten- thousand has so many variables who can keep track?   So one might ask has a great sage evolved to the law of the One (or even further to the Great Tao)....as for the rest of us it is said we go far.

 

 

 

 

 

Judaism has  '10,000' laws  ..... while Thelema  has  'the law of the one ' .   (ie.   'the one commandments '  )

 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:14 PM by Nungali

[Taomeow]

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

 

 

You never had a teenage son  ?  

 

Haha.  I don't think he could avoid domestication entirely -- if you're caught in the rain you can't avoid getting wet -- but he did a pretty good job.  

 

[Cobie]

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Edited Monday at 10:53 PM by Cobie

[Gerard]

 Oyster mushroom

Harmless, tasty. Yang (obvious pleasure).

 

Destroying angel

 

Soul shattering, very nasty, pretty to look at tough. Yin (hidden danger).

 

Interesting how two species of the same genus can be so vastly different.

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Gerard

[Sanity Check]

4 hours ago, Gerard said:

 

Destroying angel

 

Soul shattering, very nasty, pretty to look at tough. Yin (hidden danger).

 

Interesting how two species of the same genus can be so vastly different.

 

 

 

There was a man who accidentally ate that all white mushroom.

 

He was lucky to survive and blogged about the experience.

 

Where he became temporarily paralyzed and hospital medics dressed him in an adult diaper.

 

https://blog.mycology.cornell.edu/2006/11/22/i-survived-the-destroying-angel/

[Taomeow]

Mushroom poisoning is like swimming accidents -- most of them happen to experienced folks who get too cocky.  I will never forget an episode from my childhood -- at my grandmother's, on the countryside-like outskirts of a town surrounded by mushroom-rich forests.  Everybody was into foraging, me too of course, since I was 5.  So anyway, my grandmother had a falling out with a neighbor over her cat, whom the neighbor accused of breaking her precious lily flowers in a flower bed she cultivated in the front yard.  The cat purportedly made a bed for herself among those lilies.  My grandmother pooh-poohed the accusation, words started flying and the two women wound up becoming sworn enemies.  Then at one point the neighbor banged frantically on our door in the middle of the night, crying and begging my grandmother for help -- her husband ate some foraged mushrooms and was supposedly dying.  Hardly anyone had phones then and there, no private cars, no means to get to the hospital till morning.  My grandmother, a nurse, tended to the poisoned guy until the neighbor located a phone somewhere and called the ambulance.  Took a while.  I don't know exactly what my grandmother did to save the neighbor's husband, but the verdict at the hospital was, she did.  So, the cat was allowed to take her daytime naps in her favorite spot among the lilies again from then on, and did.    

 

This was the ultimate prize when mushroom hunting in those parts -- the King Boletus.  His royal majesty.