Stranger things

[Sanity Check]

3 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brawndo! 

 

The thirst mutilator!

 

...

 

Incidentally:

 

Farmers in India in the state of Chattisgarh use Coke and Pepsi as pesticides because it's cheaper than pesticides and gets the job done just as well.

 

Pepsi and Coca-Cola strongly disagree that their products can be used as pesticides because they say there is nothing in the drinks that can be used as pest control. But, the Farmers in the Durg, Rajnandgaon and Dhamtari districts of Chhattisgarh disagree and have successfully used Pepsi and Coke to protect their rice plantations against pests. 

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/side-by-pesticide/

 

Edited April 18 by Sanity Check

[Sanity Check]

12 minutes ago, Nungali said:

My God ! 

 

Someone has been spying on me trying to chair a community meeting ! 

 

 

( fer real !  Once when discussing roadworks   that needed to be redone PROPERLY  , I had to make a diversion to explain to some how water flows down hill  -  if the road slope is steeper than the slop into the gutter , water will go down the road and not off the road into the gutter  .....    blink   blink   ... ' kangaroos in the headlights '   !   )

 

 

... have you ever wondered what is down a geyser hole  ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Learning this at an early age.

 

Might save me a lot of trouble in the long run.

[Taomeow]

From my conversation with Grok:

 

Very briefly summarize speculative evidence for alien design of humans undertaken for alien purposes rather than for our thriving

 

Speculative evidence for alien design of humans for alien purposes, not human thriving, includes:

• High Mutation Rate: Elevated genetic variability (e.g., diverse MHC genes) suggests humans as a testbed for alien experimentation, prioritizing diversity for alien utility over stability, leading to disease susceptibility (Nature Genetics, 2003).
• Loss of Body Hair: Absence of fur, unlike most mammals, implies engineered vulnerability to environmental stressors, possibly to enforce dependence on alien-controlled environments or technology (Journal of Human Evolution, 2006).
• Loss of Tail: Vestigial coccyx and lack of tail indicate deliberate reduction of physical agility, potentially to limit autonomy or escape in alien-managed settings (Evolutionary Biology, 1999).
• Continuous Sexual Receptivity: Unlike seasonal estrus in most mammals, permanent fertility could maximize reproduction for alien labor or subject supply, fostering social conflict to weaken human unity (American Journal of Primatology, 2001).
• Menstruation: Energy-intensive, overt menstruation, unique among primates, may serve as a biological marker for alien monitoring or to periodically weaken females, reducing resistance (Quarterly Review of Biology, 1996).
• Genetic Quirkiness: Unstable genetic elements (e.g., retrotransposons) and rapid adaptability suggest humans were designed as versatile tools for alien genetic or environmental experiments, at the cost of health inconsistencies (Genome Research, 2007).

Interpretation: These traits—seemingly maladaptive for thriving in isolation—could imply an alien agenda valuing human malleability, population control, or experimental utility over resilience.

[Sanity Check]

 

 

[Giles]

[Gerard]

 

 

[Nungali]

When ....   'it'   ...... gets so bad that 

 

the  wack-a-doodle  'alternative researchers' are flabbergasted at how far out, wrong, crazy, and double-wack-a-doodle the 'scientific researchers'  have become   !   

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

Strange goings on at the Egyptian museum . 

 

Remember  Zawi Hawass  ...... whi specialized in 'hawassment ' of ufologists , ancient alien proponents and pyramidiots ? 

 

 

Yes, he got fired  sometime back  .....   but 

 

" ... Hawass was sacked by the country’s ruling army council, which reshuffled the government cabinet to purge it of Mubarak henchmen, a move widely seen as an attempt to placate the millions of Egyptians involved in the nation’s revolutionary upsurge... 

 

... In February of 2011 I wrote The Museum at the Center of Egypt’s Revolution, an article about Mr. Hawass that detailed his record as an ardent supporter of the former dictator Hosni Mubarak (who is scheduled to go on trial Aug. 3 over charges of corruption and having given the orders to murder dozens if not hundreds of pro-democracy demonstrators). 

 

 

...Typical of Western press coverage of Mr. Hawass’ downfall, the New York Times simply mentioned on July 22, that Hawass had drawn criticism from critics “for his ties to the Mubaraks, his role in sending artifacts abroad on traveling exhibitions and his relationship with National Geographic, which paid him up to $200,000 a year as an explorer-in-residence.” There is much more to say about why Hawass has been such a controversial figure for Egyptians.

 

My above mentioned article not only addressed how Egyptian archaeologists and state museum workers viewed Hawass as running the nation’s archaeology institutions for his own personal profit, it focused on another very disturbing possibility; as Egypt’s chief archaeologist, the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, and the Minister of Antiquities (a newly created cabinet post given to him by Mubarak just prior to the dictator’s demise), Hawass certainly had to be aware that the Egyptian Museum was being used by Mubarak’s army as a detention center where prisoners were brutally interrogated and tortured.

 

...allegations made by Human Rights organizations that Mubarak’s soldiers had “secretly detained hundreds and possibly thousands of suspected government opponents since mass protests against President Hosni Mubarak began, and at least some of these detainees have been tortured.” The article reported that “some of the detainees have been held inside the renowned Museum of Egyptian Antiquities”. While the article published the testimonies of those who claimed to have been mistreated while held inside the museum,

 Dozens of detainees held a press conference where they said that on March 9 they had been “dragged into the Egyptian Museum where they endured six hours of torture and mistreatment.” Egypt’s largest news organization, Al-Ahram, also published these accounts, reporting that “According to eyewitnesses, thousands are still being held in the military camps with detainees packed inside the Egyptian Museum, which has been turned into a torture chamber by the army.”

 

https://art-for-a-change.com/blog/2011/07/the-firing-of-zahi-hawass.html

 

So if you ever went to the Egyptian museum and noticed part of it was closed off downstairs  ... they might not have been hiding the 'alien artifacts' down there after all . 

[Taomeow]

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

 

 

So if you ever went to the Egyptian museum and noticed part of it was closed off downstairs  ... they might not have been hiding the 'alien artifacts' down there after all . 

 

Everything of top/stupendous value and of narrative-devaluing controversy is in private collections...  and I'm not talking Egypt only.    Museums have very little compared to that.  Although the Vatican might be an exception -- here's what Grok tells me:

 

The Vatican Apostolic Archive (formerly the Vatican Secret Archive) and the Vatican Library house vast collections. The Library alone has about 1.6 million printed books, 75,000 manuscripts, and 8,600 incunabula (books printed before 1501). The Apostolic Archive contains around 85 kilometers (53 miles) of shelving with documents dating back to the 8th century. Access to these is heavily restricted—only accredited scholars can enter, and even then, they must request specific items without browsing. General public access is essentially nonexistent, except for rare exhibitions like the 2012 Lux in Arcana, which displayed 100 documents, a tiny fraction of the total.

The Vatican Museums hold roughly 70,000 works of art and artifacts, of which about 20,000 are on display at any given time. This suggests around 70% of the museum’s collection is not publicly shown, stored in reserves or used for research. However, this doesn’t account for items too fragile, sensitive, or controversial to ever be exhibited.

 

Combining these, a conservative estimate suggests 80-90% of the Vatican’s books and artifacts (across the Library, Archive, and Museums) are never shown to the public, with the Archive and Library being far less accessible than the Museums. This is driven by the need to protect fragile items, maintain security, and control historical narratives. 

 

[Lairg]

On 4/20/2025 at 1:55 AM, Taomeow said:

Very briefly summarize speculative evidence for alien design of humans undertaken for alien purposes rather than for our thriving

 

Apparently only monkeys and humans do not make their own vitamin C.

 

A human-sized animal would make about 10g a day.

 

How could that be evolution?

 

Blavatsky maintained that monkeys descended from earlier human species

 

 

 

[Taomeow]

21 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 

Apparently only monkeys and humans do not make their own vitamin C.

 

A human-sized animal would make about 10g a day.

 

How could that be evolution?

 

 

Humans and monkeys -- and just one more species, the guinea pig.  Another genetic experimentation favorite?.. -- to this day, by the way.

 

Yes, I've researched the vitamin C story in much detail, beginning with Linus Pauling's take, and also had the audacity to compare the RDA for humans according to the FDA (75 mg for adult females, 90 mg for adult males) and the amounts zoo keepers give their apes -- 3500 mg to prevent deficiencies, and up to 10g if they want them to thrive.  Interestingly, books for MDs and medical students, which I used to read for fun for many years (I have some stranger hobbies), describe in gnarly and very, very scientifically presented detail how exceeding the RDA even by 50 mg will destroy you.  (On occasion I've taken up to 17 grams in a day -- 1000mg every hour -- to stop a cold, Linus Pauling of two Nobel prizes told me to.  There were no ill effects whatsoever, and 9 times out of 10 it stopped the cold in the space of the same day when it started.  The trick here is not to stop taking it abruptly and taper off gradually instead, because at such high orthomolecular* doses the body sets the metabolic mechanism for removing it higher and takes a few days to wind it back down, so if you stop abruptly, you might wind up with a deficiency.)

 

*Orthomolecular medicine, a branch of "alternative," advocates using certain natural substances which normally act as nutrients in "unnatural" amounts, effectively turning them into drugs.  This is used as temporary interventions for various health problems, not as a nutritional strategy.  

[old3bob]

Some things that may be worth looking into further?

 

"Generally, taking vitamin C with over-the-counter cold medicines is not likely to cause significant interactions, but it's still important to be aware of potential side effects and risks. Some medications might contain ingredients that could interact with vitamin C, and it's always best to consult with a doctor or pharmacist if you have concerns or are taking other medications. 

 

Here's a more detailed look at the potential interactions and considerations:

• No major interactions found:

  For some over-the-counter cold medicines like Tylenol Cold & Flu Severe and Robitussin Cough + Chest Congestion DM, no specific interactions with vitamin C were found, according to Drugs.com and Drugs.com. 

   
• Potential for increased side effects:

  In some cases, vitamin C might increase the side effects of certain medications, particularly those containing aluminum, such as some antacids. It's also possible that vitamin C could interact with acetaminophen (Tylenol) in high doses, according to Mount Sinai. 

   
• Individual variations:

  Not everyone will experience the same reactions or have the same sensitivities to vitamin C and cold medications. Individual factors like age, overall health, and other medications taken can influence how the body reacts. 

   
• Caution with combination medications:

  Some over-the-counter cold and flu medicines contain multiple active ingredients, including those that might interact with vitamin C. Always read the labels carefully and consult with a healthcare professional if you have any concerns. 

   
• Vitamin C benefits:

  While some studies suggest that vitamin C may help reduce the duration or severity of a cold, especially when taken early, the benefits are not always conclusive. Additionally, there's a possibility of side effects from high doses of vitamin C, including nausea, vomiting, and kidney stones. 

   
• Always consult your doctor:

  If you have any health concerns or are unsure about taking vitamin C with your cold medication, it's always best to consult with a doctor or pharmacist. They can assess your specific situation and provide personalized advice."

[Taomeow]

@old3bob I'm pretty sure OTC cold medications are harmful with or without vitamin C, and one reason I started looking into "what else is out there," many moons ago, was that one of them (later banned by the same FDA that had approved it, after an undisclosed number of deaths among young women specifically) nearly sent me into a coma from a single dose.  And no, I wasn't taking vitamin C then, I was still a total NPC looking to the medical officialdom for all the answers and gobbling up all the health-related prolefeed like a good little robot.

Ah, the age of innocence...  the starry-eyed trust...  blessed are the sacrificial lambs who retain that trust all the way to the altar whereon they're slaughtered.           

[old3bob]

ST wtf is your problem, grow up!

 

3 hours ago, Taomeow said:

@old3bob I'm pretty sure OTC cold medications are harmful with or without vitamin C, and one reason I started looking into "what else is out there," many moons ago, was that one of them (later banned by the same FDA that had approved it, after an undisclosed number of deaths among young women specifically) nearly sent me into a coma from a single dose.  And no, I wasn't taking vitamin C then, I was still a total NPC looking to the medical officialdom for all the answers and gobbling up all the health-related prolefeed like a good little robot.

Ah, the age of innocence...  the starry-eyed trust...  blessed are the sacrificial lambs who retain that trust all the way to the altar whereon they're slaughtered.           

 

Taomeow, which is why I noted may need further looking into, since I'm not an expert. 

 

(btw, medical people and prayer saved my wife from stage 4 cancer so I don't dismiss all medical people or prayers out of hand, although I have studied up some on anti-depressants and the crimes related to that are legion including many deaths! from what I've come across)

Edited Saturday at 06:20 PM by old3bob

[Taomeow]

2 hours ago, old3bob said:

ST wtf is your problem, grow up!

 

He merely gave you a downvote, there's nothing therein that's either immature or signifies a problem.  And if you wanted to follow up on why exactly you got a downvote on that bit of confabulation (not yours I understand, but repeated and quoted by you), you could just ask.  (Though I'd be happier if you just ignored it if you didn't like it.  The thread has been free of most unnecessary interpersonal frictions so far, and I like it this way.)

 

2 hours ago, old3bob said:

Taomeow, which is why I noted may need further looking into, since I'm not an expert. 

 

(btw, medical people and prayer saved my wife from stage 4 cancer so I don't dismiss all medical people or prayers out of hand, although I have studied up some on anti-depressants and the crimes related to that are legion including many deaths! from what I've come across)

 

I am very happy for your wife and for you.  May she stay healthy.

I don't mean that everything medical out there is useless or harmful.  But to accept everything it is, does, and says for face value in its totality might be a big mistake in many situations.  Too many if you ask me.    

[old3bob]

 

So ST it seems like you have been following me around and have given multiple mockery 'contexted' icons or down votes against my posts, which I take as WTF after ignoring several such instances?  (btw,  Taomeow  has probably not been following  those other posts besides the one on her string, since I'm pretty sure she busy elsewhere)   It's strange to me that some folks here are hyper critical about political negativity or facts yet here you are being negative to me for some  pleasure it apparently gives you?   Anyway silence is not always golden to me.

 

 

[Nungali]

18 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

Apparently only monkeys and humans do not make their own vitamin C.

 

Humans made my Vit C  

 

 

 

18 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

A human-sized animal would make about 10g a day.

 

How could that be evolution?

 

The body  evolved away from the need  to produce it as it was available in the food system . 

 

18 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

Blavatsky maintained that monkeys descended from earlier human species

 

 

 

 

So  ?  

 

She also maintained that ; 

 

" The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans, the Semites, ....   "  

 

The Secret Doctrine, Vol II, p 421

[Taomeow]

22 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Humans made my Vit C  

 

 

 

 

Good one.  

Humans specialize in what my primal guru called "acting-out" -- creatively reinterpreting and imitating externally what they don't get enough of internally, whether in quantity or in quality.  I used to maintain a mental collection of things humans created that all grew out of this common root.  It was an exercise of sorts in identifying in the world this or that object or practice and trying to guess how it might reflect our original pre-domestication psychophysiology.   This should have been bonding between mother and baby but became the medieval cult of the dame and of Mother Mary.  This should have been the nightly gathering together for storytelling by the fire and became the TV (which, unlike the fire, has light but no warmth, and even that just on one side.)  This should have been an entheogen and became a street drug.  This should have been a powerful orgasm and became a firearm.  And so on.      

 

 

[Lairg]

2 hours ago, Nungali said:

The body  evolved away from the need  to produce it as it was available in the food system . 

 

Until late in the 19th century many on sailing ships lost their teeth and then their lives through lack of Vit C

 

The British navy used lime juice to deal with the problem while their merchant sailors continued to die.

 

So a very recent evolution?    I wonder why the animals did not evolve in the same way?

 

Even today the human dietary intake in cities is typically a small percentage of what animals produce per kg of body weight.  Who benefits from that?

 

 

Edited Sunday at 01:47 AM by Lairg

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

 

Until late in the 19th century many on sailing ships lost their teeth and then their lives through lack of Vit C

 

Only the ones that where silly enough  NOT  to  take barrels of sauerkraut  with them .

Capt. Cook was one of the few English that adopted the practice . 

 

The Asians were smarter  ;    Asian cultures have relied on fermented cabbage to survive long winters between fruit seasons for thousands of years. Kimchi, sauerkraut’s Korean cousin, was historically used during winter to stave off vitamin deficiencies, while early records show workers building the Great Wall of China ate fermented cabbage regularly when fruit was not available.

https://modernfarmer.com/2014/04/magical-sour-cabbage-sauerkraut-helped-save-age-sail/

 

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

 

The British navy used lime juice to deal with the problem while their merchant sailors continued to die.

 

So a very recent evolution? 

 

Nah ... humans stopped evolving ever since modern HSS  300,000  ya . 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

 I wonder why the animals did not evolve in the same way?

 

Indeed . And that has been my major anthropological thesis  over the last few decades ;

 

'What makes 'Man' different from the other animals ?    One would think that could be discussed ?

 

Nah . 

 

I get attacked merely for posing the question ... with such 'enlightened' comments  and accusations as these  ; 

 

" Man is an animal too you know ! " 

 

" There is no difference !  "   

 

" Man has a soul an animals don't ! .   "  

 

.... and so on . 

 

One friend offered an answer I had not  thought about  ;  ' Other animals don't seem to delight in banding together and spending vast amounts of time and resources  to kill their own species . '' 

 

 

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

 

Even today the human dietary intake in cities is typically a small percentage of what animals produce per kg of body weight.  Who benefits from that?

 

 

 

Humans do  ..... when we eat those animals  . 

[old3bob]

 

animals can not break the laws they are under, mankind can and thus willingly join with or fall to the demonic instead of fulfilling their dharmas and stewardship...btw American native elders were also called Keepers for the way and the "Red road" *  and to guard against the dark road.

 

*spoken of by Black Elk

Edited Sunday at 01:19 PM by old3bob

[Taomeow]

17 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

animals can not break the laws they are under 

 

Have you ever had a cat?  

[old3bob]

20 minutes ago, Taomeow said:

 

Have you ever had a cat?  

 

several, so what are you getting at?

[Taomeow]

34 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

several, so what are you getting at?

 

Cats do break the law they are under.  Granted domesticated cats are under domesticated man's law -- but they do break it unless the owner bends them into submission with early detachment from mother, nutritional deficiencies and toxicities, veterinary iatrogenic damage, impoverished non-stimulating environments, obligatory boredom and loneliness and removal of parental and mating behaviors via surgical mutilations, outright cruelty, and other human laws a cat may be too overwhelmingly changed to break.  

 

We are in the same boat.  No one knows what non-domesticated man is like.  (Let alone non-domesticated woman.)  But I have a hunch that domestication breaks all the laws of nature, whether in man or in cat or in cattle.  Whatever we think up to take their place serves somebody I guess -- but hardly the species itself.  Somebody else.  The owner.   

Edited Sunday at 02:18 PM by Taomeow

[old3bob]

 

from a wider perspective I'd say the law of the One, the law of the Two, and the law of Three are not broken, but the law of the ten- thousand has so many variables who can keep track?   So one might ask has a great sage evolved to the law of the One (or even further to the Great Tao)....as for the rest of us it is said we go far.

 

(my analogies)

 

Edited Sunday at 04:51 PM by old3bob