Fragrant not allowing me to reconcile sleeping ?

[a5a5a9]

So I've been doing Fragrant QiGong and in several ocasions like last night I often do some meditation and last night felt the energy moving up/down my head and arms while meditating I then tried to bring the energy down from my head but still later I couldn't sleep. This has happen several ocassions.

 

does anyone know of a QiGong that purposefully helps to sleep better ?

[thelerner]

I'd point you to yoga nidras, the original guided meditations.  Some are more sleep oriented, all of them deeply relax the body.  To some extent relaxed body and mind can be the best you can hope for, especially when an energetic meditation, chemical or worry is keeping you up. 

Here's a good source for ones to try : https://www.yoganidranetwork.org/nidras/

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

15 hours ago, a5a5a9 said:

does anyone know of a QiGong that purposefully helps to sleep better ?

Flying Phoenix, specifically the second Monk Serves Wine meditation and the first Advanced Monk Serves Wine meditation

 

Unfortunately for you, Flying Phoenix and Fragrant Qigong are not compatible so you will have to choose between them

[Vajra Fist]

On 19/04/2023 at 8:46 PM, a5a5a9 said:

So I've been doing Fragrant QiGong and in several ocasions like last night I often do some meditation and last night felt the energy moving up/down my head and arms while meditating I then tried to bring the energy down from my head but still later I couldn't sleep. This has happen several ocassions.

 

does anyone know of a QiGong that purposefully helps to sleep better ?

 

I think that there's a specific exercise within the fragrant qigong system for preparing for bed. John Dolic demonstrates it in his DVDs. It might be in the book too, but I couldn't be sure.

 

I remember there being some sort of recommendation not to practice the level one exercises too close to bedtime, but its been a few years since I looked at fragrant qigong.

 

Generally speaking, if something feels too stimulating for the nervous system, I'd probably recommend speaking to a teacher of that system. John Dolic, Lisa O'Shea or Studio Zhang in Germany are all super helpful over email.

 

I'm not really a fan of qigong generally these days though, so don't take the above as any sort of recommendation.

 

As others have mentioned, yoga nidra (or 'non sleep deep rest' as they call it in the research community these days) is particularly great for calming the nervous system. 

[Vajra Fist]

On 19/04/2023 at 8:46 PM, a5a5a9 said:

So I've been doing Fragrant QiGong and in several ocasions like last night I often do some meditation and last night felt the energy moving up/down my head and arms while meditating I then tried to bring the energy down from my head but still later I couldn't sleep. This has happen several ocassions.

 

does anyone know of a QiGong that purposefully helps to sleep better ?

 

Just as an added point, I noticed you mentioned that you were practicing fragrant alongside meditation. John Dolic mentions something along those lines here:

 

This is about a girl and her boyfriend who not only forgot that Fragrant Qigong should not be practiced while practicing other styles of Qigong and similar disciplines (on a daily basis), but used it as a “warm up” before starting their meditation. With Fragrant Qigong Do’s and Don’ts this is a big NO, NO.

 

http://www.qigongchinesehealth.com/blog/post/4097286

 

I'd still recommend speaking to a teacher if you want to continue practicing. 

[Cobie]

On 21/04/2023 at 12:23 AM, Vajra Fist said:

… http://www.qigongchinesehealth.com/blog/post/4097286 …

The dragon on your link has 5 toes; definitely not conducive to good Chinesehealth.  
 

“ … five-clawed dragons were reserved for use only by the emperor ... when someone [else] painted a dragon with five golden claws, … were he and his entire family put to death …” 

https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/enter-the-dragon-imperial-power-and-its-depictions 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Cobie

[tao stillness]

Fragrant Qigong cannot be practiced with any qigong method that manipulates breathing in any way. That means that if one does FP, they cannot also do Fragrant Qigong. 

[Nosferatu]

On 20/04/2023 at 7:15 PM, Vajra Fist said:

 

I'm not really a fan of qigong generally these days though, so don't take the above as any sort of recommendation.

 

Why did you lose interest in qigong? 

[Vajra Fist]

23 hours ago, Nosferatu said:

Why did you lose interest in qigong? 

 

Qigong is largely a means of health maintenance. In many ways, going to the gym is probably better for that if you have time.

 

It is possible to practice alchemy, but it's very labour intensive getting to that point. And people at the furthest point along the path tend to talk about jhana as the ultimate achievement. 

 

Honestly I feel like meditation is the best use of my time, if I only have two hours free every day.

 

Edit - I am quite keen though on exploring the relationship between qigong and the clarity and stability of the mind during meditation. Lots of Buddhist teachers are incorporating qigong into their teachings now because of its supportive effect in this regard. In addition, sitting for long periods can sometimes make the body (and the mind) somewhat sluggish. Qigong seems  to counteract that. 

Edited July 19 by Vajra Fist