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42 minutes ago, ralis said:

 

I think you missed my point!

 

Belief systems that are underpinned by anthropocentric views are caught up in the pre-Copernicus era. During the formation of city states during the Axial Age, monotheism was invented as a means of political social control so as to maintain order among the populous which were replete with diverse pagan belief systems.

 

I think most so called Taoists are still caught in the pre-Copernicus earth centered belief system. Or, as Robert Anton Wilson famously stated; belief systems are BS.

 

There is more than one Dao to follow?

There is only one religion today?

I am confused.

But I agree.

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1 hour ago, Song of the Dao said:

 

You have missed my point. I did not say the admins disagreement with me caused their action. It was the people who disagreed with me who reported me which caused the admins to take action. I don't care, I am just highlighting the behavior to show how the dysfunction happens.

 

Several here already characterized our posting habit and not one said it has anything to do with disagreements.   They highlighted dysfunction on some level as well. 

 

59 minutes ago, Song of the Dao said:

 

Saying man should be like a tree is saying they should make them selves bigger. That idea, that we should make ourselves bigger is antithetical to the Dao.

 

I never said big. You introduced that concept by reading something that was not mentioned.   Are you seeing the problem yet ?

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16 minutes ago, Song of the Dao said:

 

There is more than one Dao to follow?

There is only one religion today?

I am confused.

But I agree.

 

I don't get your points at all. Never said what you are construing and my point is that monotheism is an earth centered belief which still to this day holds sway over many which was and still is entirely wrong! The Tao is not about the earth alone, but the entire cosmos/multiverse, not just some speck of dust we call planet earth.

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4 hours ago, ralis said:

Anyone seen the new image of the black hole some 55 million light years away?

 

 

Lol, it is now everywhere this picture.

 

Imagine what if, a blackhole, is just someone's tantien? Condensing energy.

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I often think about that koan “kill Buddha / kill ancestral masters.” It’s really easy to read it the wrong way, but if apply it, like if actually see “the” Buddha walking down the street, and you just punch him in the face, if he really is the Real Buddha, then he’s going to get over it really freaking fast, but if he’s all like “how dare you disrespect my authority,” then you are probably better off just not having any more interaction with it.

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12 minutes ago, Nintendao said:

 “kill Buddha / kill ancestral masters.

 

See god, kill the god, see demon, kill the demon. 

 

It is all about having backbone and will, and not bowing / begging anyone for anything.

It is actually what TS failed to realize.


You cannot cultivate a thing if all you do is begging, asking and being weak.

 

This world is brutal, I have explored demonic realms and higher planes, and weak willed, guru raised and pampered students will never survive there.

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On 09.04.2019 at 12:54 AM, thelerner said:

when the shit hits the fan you need this devasting

 

Here, I have true drunken kungfu master,

This is golden,

 

 

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23 hours ago, rene said:

 

The Dao of a Tree - is to flourish, or not; to grow, or not; to slump towards the ground, or not; to raise up in response to the sun/heavens, or not; and in its own time, and by its own nature (dao) to eventually wither and die. Such is the way.

 

Excellent ! , and while I might have something entirely different , this is exactly how one should look at the teachings. Really really great , very uplifting. 

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On 4/10/2019 at 11:54 AM, ilumairen said:

 

Disagreement is not grounds for moderator/admin action. 

 

And this reverse victimhood seems very odd to me. Sometimes it's not what is said, but the manner in which it's said. 

 

 

22 hours ago, Song of the Dao said:

 

You have missed my point. I did not say the admins disagreement with me caused their action.

 

 

I did not suggest this, and am hoping that now we've given the mud a little time to settle you may be better able to understand what I've actually written - instead of your inaccurate interpretation. 

 

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It was the people who disagreed with me who reported me which caused the admins to take action.

 

Nope. It was your own words that led to the (rather gentle) admin action. 

 

You see, in this place people might make reports due only to disagreement, but action will not be taken on that basis alone. Soo, without your foray into the realm of personal attack no action would have been taken.

 

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I don't care, I am just highlighting the behavior to show how the dysfunction happens.

 

One reason dysfunction happens imo, is because some individuals put responsibility for their own choices and behaviors at the feet of others. 

 

Another is not taking the time to understand what is actually being set forth before attempting to continue an argument (that may be erroneous).

 

22 hours ago, Song of the Dao said:

 

You are assuming I am not willing to accept the repercussions. Do you think I said what I said with no intent?

 

I am assuming you are placing the blame elsewhere (those pesky individuals who disagree with you), and deflecting your own culpability.

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This is actually interesting. I am starting to understand.

 

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is there different dao to follow?

 

Yes. Obviously.

There can be different dao and different ways to apply it.
Dao of a human and dao of immortal is not the same.

Nice, insight here, worthy.

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3 hours ago, GSmaster said:

This is actually interesting. I am starting to understand.

 

 

Yes. Obviously.

There can be different dao and different ways to apply it.
Dao of a human and dao of immortal is not the same.

Nice, insight here, worthy.

Huh?

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On 4/5/2019 at 6:39 PM, flowing hands said:

 

Now I begin to understand.... Married to Jonesboy who has been on my threads and presented contrary and provocative arguments at anything I might have said, and you, using your position to suspend me for questioning your motives. Hang on I can't see that in the rules, nor can I see looking at people's posts and seeing where they are at, as an offensive procedure against the rules. We are talking about the rules that govern all of us on TDB's are we not? We can all see what we say and post, there's nothing covert or wrong about this. If you look at mine they are 98% in the DDJ section. One would conclude that I am very interested in Dao writings? You will never see me posting on the New Testament or the Bible in general or other religions because of many reasons. So........

 

But undermining my title and position is and as explained by using words like "self ascribed", "self proclaimed",  "na.. Holyman" is belittling and is just as bad if not worse than calling someone an "i...t". Basically your saying that according to your 'supreme' judgement, I'm not what I say I am; is this what you are saying?

 

I might add that the term "i...t" means a person of low intelligence. So tell me, if I said he was a person of low intelligence that would be acceptable would it?

 

I can also see that politics come into this; I have openly critizied Trump and judging by posts that both you and Jonesboy have put up, you appear to be Republicans? If this is true then here is a source of aggravation towards me. If I was an American citizen (living in Arizona, which I have visited) I would be a Democrat. Religous Dao followers are normally towards helping the poor and not themselves so would vote for a socialist based political party. They would also want to help other living things and the environment. Republicans are basically capitalists and don't really give a damn about other people (they brought slavery to America) of a lesser fortune or social scale, nor the environment as a whole and as long as the money machine keeps going the environment can go to hell and so can the poor. We have a similar right wing government in my country and its just rubbish for anyone who is poor. More people are now living from food banks and living rough than at any time since the second world war and we live in the 21st century and yet the rich are still getting fantastically wealthier on the backs of the poor. Still the government cries 'this policy creates jobs and opportunities and investment'. Na ...huge lie.

 

Before I leave, I would like to see some appropriate answers. 

 

 

 

 

No disrespect old chap, but you're not coming across as very holy.

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On 4/10/2019 at 4:31 PM, Jonesboy said:

 

I thought the teachings were to humble yourself.

 

Where does it show to humble others and test their mettle?

 

That seems the exact opposite of the teachings.

 

 

Some of us have a lot to be humble about.

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3 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

 

Some of us have a lot to be humble about.

 

Oh man I know. When I need help with it I think of the following song.

 

 

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On 4/11/2019 at 12:36 AM, Bindi said:

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At last a post I agree with.

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I keep reading the title of this thread as 'Tin Hat Daoist Sect'.

 

Luckily I was already wearing my tin hat when I read it.

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15 minutes ago, Jonesboy said:

Oh man I know. When I need help with it I think of the following song.

Oh no, that's my job! -_-

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On 2019-04-12 at 3:52 PM, Apech said:

I keep reading the title of this thread as 'Tin Hat Daoist Sect'.

 

Luckily I was already wearing my tin hat when I read it.

 

I love you Tin Hat Cat.

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