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the flying phoenix up to the golden flying phenix

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HI everybody,

Hop my english will follow my tought.

I study different chi kong master since a years( a few terra octet of all kind of master, theory, books, video etc...).

I practice a few for few week.

I have all fp video and volume that went out.

I did golden fp. 2 sited and the long standing form perform by doo wai for a month.

I went prety sick( a big flu since a month and still persiste)

I stoped.

I started few brocads to activate my body but that's all since.

Every thing look incradebly efficient

Breathing etc... and the feling obtain...

practice fphoenix

make my arme vibrate

An incradible way ....

My bigest probleme are from my heart and brain.

Very hard to harmonise and i get overflow by anger and antagonistic emotions.

Inner smil and deep breathing

Are good to me but not enough.

Whit all the goodies that i learn

I went stock.

Impossible to choose a set or make my self a program.

To much stuff look legendary, incradible and verry powerfull.

I need to heal my saoul and body.

My body will follow.

I found fp efficient and those i want a practice.

The ting is what should i do and how long and ....

Anyway all the theory breathing i get make me confus

Inhal air and energy; exalt air and energy;

Breath by your organe ; redirect air and light; condense; rotate etc....

Now i feell in doubt about wath to do whit my air when i breat during meditation.

How long should i do a set

1 med a day, a week , 9 day or 108 day

Flying Phoenix is one of a set series

You agree i m sur !!!

How should i work whit all of those volume?????

I just choose one of a set and what????

Most of you may by obsess whit

Pressision in doowaing the practic

Knowing the impact we cant get physicaly ,moraly and enegeticaly.

I m sur i will put my self on the good path

Sharing is the best way .

hop we can shared the best.

 

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looks they have these series of fp meds

 

Winds Above the Ground

Flying Phoenix Ascending to Heaven

Golden Phoenix Ascending to Heaven

The Moon on Top of the Ocean

Flying Phoenix Chasing the Clouds

Flying Phoenix Chasing the Moon

Rain Among the Heavens

Breeze Among the Clouds

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Tanks

I already have

The backfu sun yee gong and the whit tiger series , all

All terry dunn and Gm Doo wai video and a lots of other.

My question still as no answer.

 

Sorry for my english ...

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Tanks

I already have

The backfu sun yee gong and the whit tiger series , all

All terry dunn and Gm Doo wai video and a lots of other.

My question still as no answer.

 

Sorry for my english ...

 

 

I hear that terry dunn is availibe for skype lessons.

 

Ironpalm has had these meds up for years on the old catalog they even had the flying phoenix fist  and 2 man and also the flying pheonix staff as well.

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How could anyone possibly work so many different meditations into a decent training schedule?

 

Not to mention the prices...

 

I hear that.

 

I emailed them and they do offer discount pricing upon request they were very nice and were willing to work with me with what i was able to afford and sent me an invoice to pay for the discounted price and that was cool.

 

my suggestion is contact them and see if you can work something out http://www.ironpalm.com/contact.html

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It is not simple to found what should be the best whitout arming my self.

To much choice.

Now i make this workout

-8 brocads

-Healing sound for internal organes

-The 1st seated med (monk gazing the moon)

From terry Dunn vol 2 fly phoenix

-And the 2 sets of pushing gin meds.

From Dan Larochelle "Doo wai".

This as a good tast i intend to do this for will.

Until i found harmony and balance énergie

I m so overwelm when i get energie i need

Stabilisation

Every body as a view point and or none

I need a doctor of chi

Im running in a.... (few post have said enough about it)...

Dont know what else to do a this point...

HOpe this work....

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I stoped.

I started few brocads to activate my body but that's all since.

Every thing look incradebly efficient

Breathing etc... and the feling obtain...

practice fphoenix

make my arme vibrate

An incradible way ....

My bigest probleme are from my heart and brain.

Very hard to harmonise and i get overflow by anger and antagonistic emotions.

Inner smil and deep breathing

Are good to me but not enough.

Whit all the goodies that i learn

I went stock.

Impossible to choose a set or make my self a program.

To much stuff look legendary, incradible and verry powerfull.

I need to heal my saoul and body.

 

 

Hello.

It sems to me that you mix different types of qigong trying to balance you mind and body. You start practicing something and then changing for something else. This is typical mistake among beginners. At first I would advise you to cease practicing on your own without knowledgeable teacher. You should choose one teacher and stick to him for a few years. Also there is another common problem for people who want to balance mind and body, almost every method is based on postheaven chi and this is just impossible to get true balance practicing such methods. I am not sure about Bak Fu Pai methods. Nevertheless there are a few good qigong sets that can bring a person to some balance but they I very rare I believe. I am not telling anything against FP sets but I would advise to train in person with teacher who can see your energy and can give you personal recommendations concerning your practice  

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On 2/28/2017 at 9:30 PM, BluePhoenix133 said:

Hello :D

 

So are the flying phoenix meditations on this site http://ironpalm.com/meditation.html are related to and part of the same system that Terry Dunn teaches? I was not aware there were many more meditations in that system aside from the ones in his DVDs.

As best I understand it, these are Flying Phoenix meditations that GM Doo Wai taught to Jim Lacy (now deceased) before they had their major falling out (there are different versions of what happened and I'm sure it's not completely black-and-white). I do not know if Jim Lacy, or others, or GM Doo Wai himself demonstrates the meditations on these different DVDs. Jim Lacy and GM did film some joint practice demonstrations; they were apparently quite close for a long time.
My own view is to get down what Terry Dunn teaches so wonderfully and responsibly. GM Doo Wai condemned Jim Lacy publicly, and Sifu Terry isn't going to give credit to or recommend anything Jim Lacy demonstrated. If GM Doo Wai demonstrated, himself, that's another matter, though Sifu Terry probably still wouldn't recommend them.  (There was some contention about other DVDs a few years ago in the FP Forum, I noticed).
I do not have any of these ironpalm.com DVDs so can't speak for them. I have the DVDs that GM demonstrated, sold by Sifu Dan LaRochelle. They are expensive, of course, and produced "on the fly"; and GM doesn't slow things down or break things down for us. I consider them a valuable record; ANYTHING Grandmaster demonstrated deserves to be preserved for the future, in my view.  I think that if we could have "downloaded" everything GM Doo Wai knows of Flying Phoenix meditations, he knows a lot more about it than we will ever see revealed! We are so fortunate that Terry has given us a coherent system to learn.   :) 

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1 hour ago, Songshou said:

P.S. Other videos out there where GM Doo Wai personally explains/demonstrates meditations he specifically says are "Flying Phoenix" were made many years ago. I believe that Grandmaster taught Sifu Terry Dunn a complete system of Flying Phoenix; i.e., it covers all the bases Grandmaster felt were necessary. 
Who knows what THE complete FP system is, if it were all downloaded from GM Doo Wai's conscious and subconscious?; I mean every FP meditation and group of meditations he was taught from childhood. I don't think we'll ever know! :)

 

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