Earl Grey

Hey you do “stick gong” too as we call it in Xin Yi. Really great for power.

Felt it once. One minute in tui shou, next minute I had no idea how I was against the wall in a room the size of a tennis court. Was barely touched too.

One thing my teacher told me is to touch hands with multiple people once one knows the foundation of all basic touch hands forms--we can do it with Taijiquan, Baguazhang, and Wing Chung practitioners as we learned their forms, which allows us to go into free flow easily since there's a tendency to default to one's own style of tuishou. "Good" or "bad" students are still good because it improves the database of one's experiences, and with your understanding it's still good since we'd both exchange parts of our database from the experience, and only serious students will understand this statement and why it helps increase power for both practitioners.

Well, sir, based on your knowledge, I’d love to touch hands with you since you definitely know what you’re talking about.

I do not know if it’s just semantics for him but I only would know if I touch hands with someone if they have linking rather than muscle chains.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/afraid-greta-thunberg-190901191445655.html

A limitation is that many teachers claim to have it but don’t and the few who do are often ridiculed until someone touches hands with them.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/devastation-amazon-predates-bolsonaro-190829115521710.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/maga-dale-good-guy-190902151754681.html

While we don’t lift weights in our school for Yi Quan because our instructor and students all reported that it is useless for power after a certain point, it hasn’t been an issue so long as someone does more Zhan Zhuang to redistribute the power evenly in the muscles. But because the body is already rewired in our school’s system, generally weightlifting is a waste of time because it’s too easy to do when the whole body is doing a curl or a bench press rather than separate muscles doing those exercises individually. Those who understand this will get what I’m talking about because lifting that huge statue isn’t a big deal after one develops linking in the body, as at that point rooting and grounding both become distinct.

It has unique qi and is one of the best pure healing forms of qigong out there. I did it alongside spontaneous for two years and moved to sleeping qigong and still continue Flying Phoenix after.

Yes and she is a member here too courtesy of yours truly inviting her here. ask for @bell

You fail as miserably as Billy Madison and sound as rational as a Flat Earther thinking you’re talking sense to others. Still no truth when you’ve never traveled abroad or actually have any worthwhile experience in the fields you criticize because your false comparisons once again do not make your platitudes true. You’ve never left Plato’s allegorical cave and you’re telling someone who actually was outside he’s crazy, just like you have yet to explain your experiences in another country or authority to speak of things you haven’t a clue about with memes and morons as your barometer for truth. Don Quixote tried to convince himself he was charging into a monster and not a windmill that anyone else could see, but in this case you don’t even seem to know what a windmill is. I once knew a white lad who dropped out of college and in the company of people who were Chinese students, academics, former diplomats, and businessmen, he claimed the main language was Cantonese rather than Mandarin and insisted that Confucius and Buddha were the same person, insisting the people in that Chinese group were brainwashed and ignorant. He admitted he had never left San Francisco and only sounded stupider each time he opened his mouth. I wonder if you two are related.

I can't speak much for weight lifting killing sensitivity as I haven't lifted weights since university, almost 15 years ago. Most of my friends in the internal arts do Zhan Zhuang and the same calisthenics and isometrics I do, while muscle control and contraction are parts of the puzzle for Xin Yi. Sensitivity for us remains high because we do a lot of push hands, including a super slow version where we're barely touching by hairs and alternate by going as hard as possible to develop that sensitivity. If you don't have people in a group to practice with, then yes, perhaps sensitivity can be lost, but I have not encountered that with any kind of physical conditioning with any internal artist I have met, though I haven't seen anyone lifting weights because it means they need more Zhan Zhuang to balance the body's muscles as weight lifting imbalances the distribution of muscle.

If you haven't seen this one, they just removed it from the site. Good summary though. Saw it the other day. https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2017/10/australia-rainmakers-outback-171024065513524.html

Intellectual things which are most definitely not dead like the thread says. Ducks perhaps? yes i think he will come back or the same manner of reasoning in another thread or two.

I have read a few of Crowley’s texts and I’m not an adherent to Judeo-Christian views, though I have seen the satan is a prosecutor rather than a tempter. A literal devil’s advocate. I recommend esteemed UCLA professor Henry Asgard Kelly’s book “Satan: A Biography” which is his research on how linguistics and political forces shaped the modern view of Satan that has some rather interesting discussions for historical context before dogma led to the church doing the devil’s job better than he ever could imagine. Again, I do not particularly gravitate towards Crowley as much these days aside from his tarot deck and a few books here and there and defer to Nungali and several other members here who have different views but the same understanding of Crowley. Agrippa and the Picatrix are more up my alley, along with Paracelsus and Solomon’s Keys.

Where are you getting your information and how are you coming to the conclusions you have made? I would like to understand your thinking and research besides drawing from personal experiences. Also, Nungali is still not attacking you. Playing devil’s advocate and challenging you to explain your position perhaps, but not attacking you. He is speaking from his formal studies and thus has authority. I am more of an Agrippa student with a lot of Taoist and Vedic training for years before, but have no real reason to challenge you in other threads because you’re mostly posting your experiences rather than making authoritative statements, and where you do is mostly conjecture. Unfortunately for you, what Nungali is challenging you with is accurate as I did some studying of Crowley too and some of Israel Regardie’s work. It is more analogous to a mathematician pointing out your formula is incorrect and why it is so, not belittling you, but when you get defensive, it comes off more as the Soviet scientist Lysenko who ignored science in favor of politics and ego even if the results proved time and again he had theories and experiments that could never work had he observed properly basic fundamentals in the natural sciences. Nungali is teaching you the natural philosophies, and it’s quite compassionate given he is on a road trip now and doesn’t have to argue with anyone online.

Yes and traditionally old practitioners were already physically active in nature from carrying water and chopping wood, so they already had base fitness from just living instead of being at a keyboard all the time.

Those low stances are "big basin" training as our school calls it and the drawback is that they create more tension when Zhan Zhuang is usually meant to release tension and create relaxation. Weightlifting, I will add, is not bad, but can make doing ZZ harder, which is why the program I mentioned above is all body weight and using no equipment besides walls, towels, and chairs for calisthenics and isometrics.

I actually have a simple training program for both internal and strength training. Was going to post this week looking for anyone interested in checking out some of the strength training I do based off of old time circus strong men. It is comprised of stretching, Zhan Zhuang, Baduanjin, isometrics, calisthenics, muscle contraction and muscle control, and muscle compression from ZZ. The internal parts are a resting form of qigong, Zhan Zhuang as stated above with Baduanjin, and anything advanced is for students because the above was really designed for total beginners due to the fact a lot of people who want power focus too much on misinformation like reverse breathing or on neidan. Most people might actually find benefits from basic fitness already but the internal aspects help prepare them for bringing their base fitness higher. If the base is low, it won’t do much.

Drew, read this whole thread beginning with the first post and your question will be answered.

Nungali is a good chap as I said and very knowledgable. He is pressing your buttons but means no ill will. If you consider the intention and what he's trying to impart you can learn a lot if you remain open. He is by no means a bully but a friendly man who is akin to a trickster teacher.

Hand in hand, alone, “your hand in mine”: Explosions in the Sky: great band!