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Then perhaps it isn't coming across as you intend my dear attention seeking child. https://images.app.goo.gl/pfgtRE8wwQJE7e3K6

The pretty mean girl defense? People not liking me has nothing to do with how I treat them; they're just jealous because I'm pretty more powerful than they are. I don't act like a bitch asshole; they're just angry because they have ego problems. How vapid star. And I actually like you; I can't imagine how you come across to those who don't.

Why would you illustrate his point about hair trigger reflex to praise and blame star? @SirPalomides he had a teacher in marital arts who taught predominantly without speaking, and he's been interacting in this manner for as long as I've known him - which dates back to the old AOL days. He loves to speak of others immaturity while running around like a small child saying, "watch this!" and talking about how fast and strong he is. If you have this image in mind, his little fits are easier to deal with, or outright ignore.

Is this similar to what you're looking for? https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-flow-2794768 https://wkup.org/working-meditation/

When I was looking into the terms used in the title here, I found this ranting complaint about how someone could only get laid if he lowered himself to fat and ugly or nasty and diseased women...

I actually have known a number of gay men who married women and had children (and lesbians who married men and had children) as they felt it was what was expected of them.

Hey Lukey, I wonder in the imaginary scenario alluded to how gay men end up married (to other men) or cohabiting.. Would they need to find a female to make the decision for them?

You are actually correct; these days in many societies cohabitation and/or the establishment of a spousal home is a mutual decision, and no longer solely the choice of father and potential husband. Which should not be taken as indicative of it being solely the choice of the females... in case this is the assumption you arrived at.

I don't think Luke is the one deluding himself here...

You don't even see how you are stifling your own chances with your chosen narrative coloring how you view the world, do you?

Next item for consideration, the blonde as initially Jeff's construct - eventually becoming something of a group egregore. And it's mundane corollary in regards to the manipulation inspiring some "visions" and "versions" of her and narcissistic supply.. As stated earlier, I can map the interactions through both spiritual and mundane paradigms. And they don't (in spite of what Jeff alluded to) negate each other, but are simply different ways of understanding/expressing experience.

One day while leading a dive, in which I was focusing on the vision is mind line from the fivefold teachings of Dawa Gyaltsen, the dog started whimpering at the door. He had to pee. Now generally, I focused on some meditation while doing the group practice, but I understood that generally participants at this time just got on with their lives, so, I got up to let the dog out. He managed to escape his harness in his desire to chase chickens once he'd relieved himself, and I ended up having to tackle him to prevent him from running across the road to the neighbor's house with the chickens. When I returned to the computer and practice someone had written "good clean flows." I shared the experience with the dog, and the individual who had shared the flows comment started talking about a very emotional correlative experience from their past. The good clean flows were karmic winds imo, and not any indication of my strength or skill. The conditions were simply ripe..

I was initially disinclined to respond to this, as this, and the next quote from the same post indicate you are not seeing or hearing me as much as you're lumping all "Jeff detractors" together and believing us to be one symbiotic unit speaking with one voice. This is common with the group, and an easy way to dismiss any individual voice or negate anything offered which runs contrary to the group view. This being said, I personally would not have used the phrase "preyed upon" - preferring the more direct (imo) interacted with in a manipulative and deceptive manner. This started with the very first PM sent to me by Jeff, to question and correct what he set forth as my view, based upon the addition of a word I never typed in the post he wrote me about. I had written something about being human, and he wrote to correct me on being "only" human. I would link the post at this point, but it is in a pitted thread we no longer have access to. I was clear with him about what I saw as "twistiness" from the get go, and this is where my dominant issue with Jeff sits - the manipulations. There were several I brought to his attention during our time of interacting only to have them "explained away." He, and his group, love to write things off as subconscious or underlying issues of whoever's discontent with him, and have a tendency to go at discontents hard - instead of offering any support to the issues either created or deepened through his manipulative interactions. While I was there Tom actively recruited troubled individuals with offers of help - just as Lori described in the previously deleted post. And he actively expressed anger with me for not bringing people to Jeff. Recruitment is expected, and another had offered Jeff's "help" to me (which I didn't act upon) prior to Jeff himself messaging me. The illusion is Jeff's power and the woven narrative... One day a younger person I had some affinity with was troubled, and at one point (pursuant to the practices then) I told him if he would like he could wrap my energy around him like a comforting blanket. Jeff arrived as the interaction was playing out, and asked if the young man felt any difference in my energy and Jeff's. The response was initially yes, and upon further questioning it became clear he only said yes because he thought it was the answer wanted.. I spent some time considering this.. the individual only needed some sense of support, and what arose for him was a manifestation of his own "power" which he was (prior to our interaction) not connecting with. Jeff, the human battery pack, is (imo) through his own (and the group shared) narrative crafting and creating dependencies which elevate him, using what should be placed back on the individuals empowering them. Haven't you ever wondered why the "powerful" and "good" stuff is all about him, and the "weak" and "bad" is all placed on the individuals? There is also one more thing I've seriously considered, and this has to do with wind disorders, and how someone could utilize (a misunderstanding of) them to manipulate people to some misguided sense of the "outside" parties power..

Cooperation seems dependent upon a shared vision or goal. When the goals and/or vision are in conflict, and cooperation will not naturally arise, we (as a collective) tend to fall back on "goodness" and "decorum". Think warring states and Confucius, or the DDJ "when virtue is lost".. Please forgive the open ruminations - just chewing the cud to aid digestion I suppose.

This seems rather ironic, in the humorous sense and even more so, the Greek tragedy sense.

The narrative isn't going to help anyone get what they presumably want, and there seems to be a correlation between investment in this narrative and how attractive (approachable) women will find the narrative holder. Instead of reading blogs and watching YouTube videos about the "problem with women," why don't you step away from the screen and talk with some.. give them space to be who they are, instead of looking at them through a lens of predetermined (and self-defeating) bias?

Anyone I meet could give rise to their buddha nature at any point, and I've seen the clarity shine through numerous times - even if clouds may again gather.

The first track is a guided sleep meditation which gently brings one to rest in one's own heart. Listened to it the last two nights as I drifted off, and slept quite well. Thanks

What I used to wonder was if the blonde was the representation/ manifestation of his own deep issues and fears which he is unable to process. And at one point he wrote something which seemed to indicate the likelihood of this possibility... Whatever the case may be, I've seen little to no indication of personal responsibility for the entanglements he creates with others.

Thank you for the openness and effort put into your response. But we seem to have experienced a misunderstanding somewhere. I was not looking for any form of proof, but the reason why you equate Jeff hugs with Amma hugs. BTW, as you seem unaware, I was formerly a member of LU and participated in and even led "dives." This is precisely what I did. Well, stop doing anything with him, I continued my own practices. Why do you believe the voltage you refer to is from him (and his group)?

Yeah, we tend towards rationality and sanity here... Hey, gendao is like the Charles Dance character in the newest Godzilla movie...

I thought perhaps you were simply trying to further divert the steam as you admitted your inclination to be the focus of attention... and in the past such name calling and derision earned you said attention.

Wtf does this have to do with anything here?

No reason to apologize; my thanks were sincere. I'd like him to speak for himself regarding his assertion, and why he made it.

Thanks guys. I really was looking for an honest answer from @EmeraldHead himself though...