Nungali

It isnt just the 'transcendent ' ... its a new age way of avoiding 'fixing the problem' .... just get all sugary positive about things or the 'trance' one goes into from long term 'non suffering ' ( like when you live a privileged lifestyle and 'fall in love ' )

supposedly ... for a Christian, that is what we are supposed to be However from the shepherds perspective .... he knows where they will 'end up ' .

I agree but .... That is normal everyday 'will' not 'wilt' as is considered in the meaning of the phrase ( that is, the phrase which is the title of this thread ) . The 'will ' is multi faceted or just multiple , as you observe - as the 'self' is . Without integration of wills and selves , we are an unruly mess of drives, 'purposes' and . sometimes conflicting , wills .. Even with the concept of the 'True Will ' ( which is the 'will' referred to in the phrase ) one must be mindful and respecting of 'transpersonal will ' ... that is 'beyond your own person ' as ; if ( and especially 'magically' ) one affirms the importance of enacting one's True Will , then one must give the same right to others .... otherwise ... well, that's just selfish, greed , even 'personal fascism ' .

We have a coastal town further south , right on the coast, out on a type of peninsular called ' South West Rocks ' sometimes I visit and a few times I have asked , ''What is South West Rocks, south west of ? '' Most look blank, or laugh or dont understand the question ?

From looking at his link I would say he was Uranian .... right 'up there' with the others from 'Uranus' ... possibly he could be 'up there ' on his own though

No .... just a good ear ... and dont be a Xerk

Sitchen could not even translate cuneiform ! And what sort of advice or reference is that for Haribol ? What , he has to read the whole corpus of CRAP from Sitchen to find a reference to your c;aim ? Dont do it Haribol ! Bad advice - it will wreck your mind ! (or if you are bored , you could do it for fun ) but remember : AI Overview No, Zechariah Sitchin's theories are generally considered invalid and pseudoscientific by mainstream scientists, historians, and academics, who criticize his translations of ancient Sumerian texts as inaccurate, his interpretations as speculative, and his claims about extraterrestrial "Anunnaki" creating humanity as unsupported by evidence, conflicting with archaeological and historical facts, and lacking scientific merit . Key Criticisms: Linguistic Misinterpretations: Sumerologists and Assyriologists point out Sitchin's mistranslations of Sumerian cuneiform, arguing he imposed modern concepts (like a 12th planet, Nibiru) onto texts that describe known celestial bodies or mythological figures, not aliens. Ignoring Evidence: His theories disregard established archaeological findings and evolutionary biology, presenting fantastical narratives as historical fact. Pseudoscience/Pseudohistory: Academics classify Sitchin's work as pseudoscience and pseudohistory because it's based on flawed methodology and unsubstantiated claims rather than rigorous academic standards. In essence, Sitchin's ideas are popular in alternative history circles but are not accepted as valid within professional academic or scientific communities.

Ye eeeeee eeeee s . I need to be careful with definitions here . IF we call the earlier 'followers' as depicted in the Bible as 'Jews ' than yes ; Judaism was formulated as a state religion and the temple 'cleared' and dedicated to 'one God - YHVH ' and clear monotheism established ... that seems to have been Josiah's work . ( 640 - 609 bc ) . Before that it seemed your regular Canaanite temple with all sorts of goings on in there . We have two choices ; to believe either that they were monotheists who would always, continually slip away from that and get terribly punished and never learn and keep doing it OR they were a blend of people with different Gods and ' at best ' some 'henotheirsts ' ( there are other Gods , yes, but mine is best ) ; in either case the bible itself attests to this . .

not if you row across two oceans .... that will spin the compass like a top ! oh .... edit ... my mistake ... sunrise if you row across two oceans the rotation of the earth will be reversed

Then if one is considering its nature 'from beyond' or 'apart from' using the mind (if that is what is meant ) then there must be a faculty beyond or apart from mind to consider it ? or are you saying mind considers itself (it doesnt look like you are saying that ) '' the nature of the mind and eventually identify with this as one's ultimate "self.'' so if mind is supposed to be identified as ultimate self , what is considering this non conceptual or intellectual definition ? or maybe its just the syntax you chose or my misreading ? Are not the first two, products of the mind ? Yes.

I stopped at ' Japan is west of China... if you row across two oceans' . I can affirm its not . ... and I have rowed from Australia to Portugal !

What does the death of an individual have to with the survival of it's race ? The death of the individual is how a race survives , a key mechanism and how evolution works .

But ..... But ....

Gloria Gaynor .

Who claims that ??? and no, not all good comes from the west :