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Shocked US driver calls 911: ‘I just had a bald eagle drop a cat through my windshield’ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/21/bald-eagle-cat-windshield

A slight aside - just the other day ; 225 royal ushabti figurines unearthed in Nile Delta Tanis archaeological site https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/557221/Antiquities/Ancient-Egypt/-royal-ushabti-figurines-unearthed-in-Nile-Delta-T.aspx

That only applies if one thinks creation is something other than God ( God is 'immanent ') ... and that within a narrowly defined 'theology' that tries to explain or excuse - as all theology does - conflicting key concepts in other areas ie. a 'limitless' light . One might consider more practical applications ? " The more the tzimtzum of the self, the more the capacity for existence for the other, and therefore the unit. It is remarkable how true this is at various levels, whether physical, in respecting private space in the house, car or workplace, or emotional in respecting needs. Being overbearing in one’s insistence that a spouse should behave in a certain way, or meet needs in a certain way, or follow orders in a certain way, are all methodologies of demanding emotional space to occupy, rather than contracting from it and leaving room.'' (its good to have a Rabi to 'keep you on course' ) https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2328171/jewish/Chapter-10-Tzimtzum.htm

This works ; I used google search site:thedaobums.com "exorcism" or any other eg . site:thedaobums.com " ( the subject ) "

Which one ? That one that wants you to kill an animal, fling its blood around the holy temple , BBQ the kidneys (as thats God's fav. smell ! ), and then do a wave offering at the threshold and let 'God' suck it up into his 'vortex' between the horns on the altar and then tell your army to pillage and plunder men women and children across the land and take it from them . maybe that 'God' is the demon ... hmmmmm ? God made nature and the world for people to have dominion over ( dominate ) ..... those demon influenced Aboriginals, as you suggested , and most indigenous pre- Christians never had that concept , they lived in harmony with it . yet'God' spent all that time punishing his 'chosen people' , and told them to dominate nature and the world Thats reasonable .... if one removes the 'therefore' and is flexible and artistic about the term 'demons' . IMO the people that destroy nature and the world are those that feel they have the right to dominate it . Of course, ask the indigenous, they knew that by harming their environment it harms themselves and their future Do you mean things in the Bible ... no please ! dont try to figure that 'on your own ' ... try and get a good rational and not crazy Pastor or Minister or something ! and some group that wont take all your money and abduct the kids

Hmmmm ... I guess you dont understand that an analogy need not actually be constituted as some type of specific advice to action . ya know, your confusion is worse today than normal . Not feeling a bit 'possessed ' are you ? If so , you could always put it into a pork chop ( or a four bone rib roast ) and go throw it in the ocean .

Do tell then what this 'point' is ( and the whole point of this thread is ) ?

try this .... I am currently reading it as I respond here ; More Things in Heaven and Earth: Spirit Possession, Mental Disorder, and Intentionality, https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10912-018-9519-z#:~:text=And this actually does occur,is possessed by that spirit. .

Only to you and only due to not reading what I posted clearly previously ! '' if you mean demonic possession and the claims some disturbed people make about such 'demons' urging them to self harm and other negative things , yes , that is old news and there are many posts on it . '' I am contending that such actions do NOT make people like the pigs in the Bible . Again it is NOT the subject matter but your misinterpretation of things from an ancient source for ancient people and trying to nut it out , in your isolated view ( ie, not in context and with limited information / knowledge and try to substitute that with your own limited social experience , which seems half pop cult movies , cartoons, gaming and ill-informed youtubes Thats about as funny to a mentally disturbed by 'demons' person as it is to say those with modern problems of self harm are like pigs in the Bible and need a 'Jesus exorcism ' .

I did . I posted the directors reason the character appeared that way and what the influences on him were . It seems you are not even reading my responses . You are still doing it ; what 'stuff' , what is 'old news' ? What are you actually talking about ? if you mean demonic possession and the claims some disturbed people make about such 'demons' urging them to self harm and other negative things , yes , that is old news and there are many posts on it . You cant seem to comprehend that it might be YOUR weird 'Christian' take on things and your choice to ''Homer Simpsonize''' everything you seem to put your hand to .... is actually what any 'controversy' here is about ..... if you can comprehend that .

Oh Gawd , I cant think what you might come up with to justify that one ! You constantly cite early Iron Age collated 'scripture' as having relevence in todsay's ssociety ... even Christians that agree with you about people self harming due to demonic possession say it relates to that time and self harm is a different kettle of fish ; Self-harm as we generally talk about it today is deliberate harm to one's body as a way to deal with emotional pain, anger, or frustration. Some describe feeling numb and harming themselves to at least feel something. For some the physical pain induced by self-injury functions as a brief release of emotional pain or other emotional energy. For others, the physical pain is a distraction from emotional pain they are feeling. Some use self-harm as a means of punishing themselves for a perceived fault; for others, the harm is related to feeling a sense of control over one's body, emotions, or life circumstances. Some people self-harm a few times and stop; for others, it becomes a pattern of behavior. Though self-harm is usually not done with suicidal intention, the intensity of the harming behavior can increase. While the act of self-harm may temporarily resolve the emotional angst, the relief is generally short-lived. Guilt and shame often follow. (www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/self-injury/symptoms-causes/syc-20350950, accessed 1/28/2021; and www.covingtonbh.com/disorders/self-harm/signs-symptoms/, accessed 1/28/2021.) https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-self-mutilation.html

I have , but what has that got to do with it ? Do they study pigs to understand those people that self harm ? Try using logic . and by what authority ? The apostles cast out demons by the authority given to them by Jesus, operating through the power of the Holy Spirit. This was done by commanding spirits to leave "in Jesus' name," relying on Jesus' authority and the power of the Holy Spirit, rather than their own strength. So the reason is .... because of genesis . It seems like YOU are one that has not read that Bible passage ! That must be it .... anyone with a cut scar ...... demon .... anyone not Christian .... demon . Australian Aboriginals with a suite of variant cultures , who exhibited 40,000 + years of peaceful coexistence in their environment without wrecking it , and who have worldwide recognized cultures of rich spirituality ..... must be demon possessed to fit in with your own entirely narrow view You do this all the time .... postulate weird 'quicksand' and then sink deeper and deeper the more you try to wiggle out or justify the 'stuff' you say .

Maybe you mean to ask 'why are some people self-destructive' ?

ya know what ? originally in composing the above I added '' What is needed is associated knowledge about the time, place and Jesus and a comparative study to gain insight . Not some self 'understood modern BS from you and those movies you watch and compare everything to which I removed as it seemed I was being too harsh ...... but there you go again ... '' There are also decades of demonically possessed hollywood characters engaging in self harm and various forms of self mutilation. Why does the above have pins sticking out of his head? Maybe demons possessing him give him pleasure in exchange for self destructive, self harming, tendencies? '' and maybe .... you can postulate anything ... maybe he was a pin cushion in his past life ya know, you can look things up , instead of this weird 'supposin's ' you keep coming up with that are tied in with some aberrant 'Christian' view . '' Director Clive Barker drew inspiration from his visits to underground S&M clubs, where he saw people with extreme body piercings, and from the visceral imagery found in Catholic religious art. Other influences included books depicting African fetishes with many piercings and the need for "repulsive glamour" in the creatures' design.

That does not mean it was pleasurable . I felt better after getting a hip replacement ... do you think that and the recovery were 'pleasurable ' ? A 'consensus' based on one lone experience with one misinterpreted comment . Oh ... a 'mood enhancer' now is it ? Yes. That doesnt mean people who self harm are like pigs . Its meant to demonstrate that Jesus can cast out demons Where did that idea come from ? Think about what pigs meant to Judaism . and remember the pigs 'asked for it ' '' Ultimately, the narrative is not generally interpreted as establishing a universal law about pigs' susceptibility to possession, but rather as a unique event with specific theological and cultural significance within the biblical accounts'' And there are MANY reasons why people might cut themselves No they dont .... its your own 'unusual' interpretations that reinforce your own opinions . '' Like so many other examples of storytelling in the Bible, we are told of actions and statements but are left to figure out the connecting tissue of meaning and context ourselves. So we must be very careful about how we interpret the story. We will be tempted to project our own theories, prejudices, and ideas onto it.'' https://www.wholefaithlivingearth.com/demons-and-pigs-fresh-look/#:~:text=and their demise?-,Yes.,to remain in the area. What is needed is associated knowledge about the time, place and Jesus and a comparative study to gain insight .