Nungali

I chose the side of the 'White Lodge ' '' LET IT BE KNOWN that there exists, unknown to the great crowd, a very ancient Order of sages, whose object is the amelioration and spiritual evolution of mankind by means of conquering error and aiding men and women in their efforts of attaining the power of recognising the truth. This Order has existed already in the most remote times and it has manifested its activity secretly and openly in the world under different names and in various forms: it has caused social and political revolutions and proved to be the rock of salvation in times of danger and misfortune. It has always upheld the banner of freedom against tyranny in whatever shape this appeared, whether as clerical or political or social despotism or oppression of any kind. To this “secret order” every wise and spiritually enlightened person belongs by right of his or her nature: because they all, even if they are personally unknown to each other, are one in their purpose and object and they all work under the guidance of the one light of truth. Into this Sacred Society no one can be admitted by another unless he has the power to enter it himself by virtue of his own interior illumination, neither can anyone after he has once entered be expelled unless he should expel himself by becoming unfaithful to his principles and forget again the truths which he has learned by his own experience. ''

Hmmm ... guacamole is good with a bit of beer added .... but dont add a spoonful of guac to your glass of beer .... that would indeed become 'evil' . And only recommended for an 'Aussie chunder contest ' ( look it up if you are game )

Yes ... but you 'seek the light ' .

That ... depends on the amount ; 1 - 3 ( for the majority ) = 5+ = Of course one can mix excessive drinking with eastern practices = ( better to drunken fight against ....... no one who is there

By drinking Bovril I stop that war .

But I tried drinking tea to stop the war .... didnt work .

Sure , same here .... all I have to do is stay in my little protected world .... I often do .

yeah sure .... I will file it along with how the Great pyramid encodes the proof of Jesus being God

Could be ..... ' I ' ( my 'I ' aside from my body ) popped into existence ..... where did I come from .... pop! Oh he is gone (one day ) ... where did he go ?

You should either stop posting false info or get an education ! Its becoming constant . It was NEVER supposed humans evolved from apes ! Even Darwin never supposed that . Hos weird detractors did though . I mean ... dude ! Look it up anywhere and educate yourself ! and then you go on to pose some stupid question about back and front hair . 7 ray 'root race ' garbage that helped developed 'race superiority' theories ! More BS ! Genetic split from wolves to dogs 27-40,000 , you are 10,000 years off . and 40,000 is the max . and unique dog like skulls 11,000 ya . This isnt genetic manipulation - it is information manipulation

Another aspect can be understood via the example of Zoroastrianism . At first glance Zoroaster was a mystical prophet that bought good law and order to the people ... by actually re-forming the old religion . But when one looks deeper one can see the clear political motivations behind it . First there was Mazdayasni ; 'Mazda Worship' . Then later defined as ' Paoriyo - tkaesha ( keepers of original law ) . Then we see some hints of division in the Aryan ( Indo-Iranian ) religion with 'Mazdayasni Paoriyo - tkaesha ' . This seems reflected in Vedanta and later Zoroastrianism with the 'Deva / Asura division ' Then Zarathustra refined it to ' Ahura - tkaesha ( the laws of the Lord Ahura - 'Ahura' signifying dominion over creation though order and laws ) . But then after some trouble with 'neighbours ' it bacme known as '' Mazdayasno Zarathushtrish Vidaevo Ahura-Tkaesho, that is, Zarathushtrian Mazda-Worship opposed to the daeva through the laws of the Lord. Ooppsed to the devas . The devas , in this case seem to be the Turanians (or similar ) ... or some tribe more 'Indian' than 'Iranian ' ( ie 'proto' - before they became Indians or Iranians ) However of course there are also spiritual moral or religious ideas behind Zoroastrian 'reformation ' as well.

here is 'the thing' though : although I agree with you in nearly all cases , I have found an example where a 'sage or mystic ' ( the term is a complex name which translates as ' visionary artist ' ) did bring about laws and society . So far this is the only case I have found where a nationwide sweeping change came about that changed society and made law but not due to invasion, conquest , or natural or man made disaster . however this may because these people did not have ' rulers of the realm' ? In any case , you seem to be right , one exception doesnt really disrupt the genera; 'trend' ... however it does make this exception outstanding in its own right . ( research is ongoing... my research,, that is ) https://www.ifrao.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/31-1-Doring.pdf

Okay then ... what does your link say ; '' The Planes of Existence represents one of the most fascinating and profound aspects of metaphysical thought across numerous spiritual traditions .... '' geeze , I never got past the first sentence ! '' according to this link cant exist without mind expereince ; '' These five forms of gross matter and the aforesaid fifteen attributes, together with Manas, Mind, sense consciousness; Buddhi, discriminative Intelligence; Chitta, the Heart or power of feeling; and Ahamkara, the Ego, constitute the twenty-four basic principles of creation.

Oh damn ! Just when I thought I was heading towards mastership !