Nungali

Which Bible ? There is the Jewish Bible , that Jews obviously wrote * and the Christian Bible with Old and New Testaments , that was 'collated' by various people and processes . * Lairg seems confused that although the Jews adopted many stories in the Jewish Bible , they ( the Jews ) actually re wrote, adapted and collated them into the Jewish Bible - so of course, the Jews * wrote the Jewish Bible ... but they didnt come up with the original versions for many of the adopted/ collated stories . - Josiah's scribes seem the culprits .... they 'found' the 'Torah ' in the Temple they were rebuilding . However the Bible stories might have been known and built upon throughout the whole area in a non oral tradition dating from the 10thC BC up to 100 CE. The text compiled between the 8th and 6th C BC with current redaction 6th to 5th BC using the stories like David and King Solomon and a Unified Jewish state ( back written to make a fake history ) by Josiah's scribes , before he made a move to go north and claim Israel ( after it had been weakened by invasion for punishment due to rebellion , and then retreat of Assyrians ) as rightful as it was being claimed now as part of the old Unified Kingdom . The plan did not work , on the ground, though - for him . He ran into Pharaoh who was on his way north to quell the Babylonians and tried to oppose him .... and got shot full of arrows . The story however became a great success , soon everyone believed it , resulting in the formation of Jewish monotheism ( ie Judaism ) Christianity and Islam and was considered a valid source of world history up to the 1880s ... and still for some today , fully, or in subtle ways not many are aware of in themselves . ... to me, it seems the biggest con job in history !

Its hard to say as 1) people's claims seem relevant to themselves , so success ....will likewise seem relevant to the self view. and 2) the case of definition of what actually HGA is * and 3) . 'Knowledge of ' seems very different to 'converse with ' and any 'converse' , especially on this level ( ie. not the 'normal everyday level of consciousness ' ) , might be subtle , symbolic , etc . * according to Crowley its a name he got from the Book of Abramelin which he applied . he equated it with 'genius' and 'daimon' of the ancient Greeks although in his version it is an objective individual and not just our 'higher nature' . The ancient Greeks (and Romans ) seem split on various ideas about this ( I lean towards the Socratic view ) regarding them as either 'indwelling' or attendant ' and have relationship to character , personality , aspirations and inspirations and inner spiritual and outer material guidance . To me it seems a mixture of these forces .... or , that is our perception from 'here ' . If I am flexible with the definitions I feel I have had definite success with communication but many would say ' That was not your HGA ' - however some Greek sources believe the 'daimon' to be a soul of a person from their 'Golden Age ' who 'watched over' you . This seems to go along with some old Zoroastrian concepts ( the origin of a lot of 'spirituality ' in Crowley's system ) where good people from the past may assign themselves ( or part of their function ) to come back / visit certain people to give advice and assistance and to work as a 'bridge' between yourself in this life and the 'other side' - which seemed to be the case for me . Also it goes along with a few different traditional origins So, if one sees it as a 'higher self' OF oneself , then that might be something other than HGA ( and there are a few higher levels of 'self' ) . But if it IS an objective outside influence to guide and direct and converse with and get advice , then I feel I have had immense success , and that seems to go along with the view of what was meant by it (as opposed to what was injected into the concept later ; higher self ) . Sometimes there seems a 'shadowy collective ' in the background , but converse has definitely been by one particular one . There is also subtle guidance that results in luck, fortune and other things .... behind the scenes , as it were , that is , not being aware of process , just the outcome ... which can result in the 'magician' having the appearance of ' pure arse ' . Its difficult to say what is behind that . eg ; pure arse is like when our lawyer was happy but incredulous how 'fate' kept constantly coming to my assistance in our court case : ''Its like , they ( the prosecutors ) push you in a river , you fall and stumble, landing on a stepping stone and career from one stone to the other and land on the other side, on a silk cushion, with a cocktail in your hand ' people have often been exasperated by my 'pure arse ' at times Definitely not .

Bush Tucker Man examining a native plant ( a tv show on indigenous foods ) and he asks his elderly indigenous companion '' Can I eat this ? '' '' Yes .'' - eats it , spits it out '' Urrrrk ! That tastes disgusting .... I thought you said I could eat eat it ?'' '' Well .... you can eat it .... I wouldn't - tastes terrible ! ''

I used to make them up ..... general stories , sometimes three a night '' And not one we have heard before '' and even had to construct them around certain things ; '' I want to hear a story with a boy, a dog, a bow and arrow, a rocket ship and ..... ummm ..... watermelon ! '' ''Okay then < thinks ..... > Once there was a boy with a pet dog called .... '' But often they were 'scary stories' - three young boys they were . Loved scary stories ... but their Mum would be ..... ''You do that , and you will be sleeping in their room tonight ... I won't be getting up to comfort them they if get scared in the middle of the night .'' Oh well, ok , it's worth it

What does that even mean though ? here is some context ; if 1 million seconds is close to 11 1/2 days .... how long would 500 billion seconds be ? Near 16 years . Today's 'millionaires' ...... Meh ! .... Ya need at least that much to get yourself a half decent house !

According to the Biblical OT story of the establishment of the Jews in Palestine it is . But only if 'God' ordains it.

Supposedly it is a non traditional system , based on efficacy of results, eclectic , and personalized . Does this not make virtually every modern practicing magician a Chaos magician ? Unless they are some rigidly practicing following by rote some medieval manuscript ... and having the mind set to go along with that . The definition seems to favor Spare yet divorce Crowley ??? He certainly bent the traditions , threw out a lot of stuff he considered 'non - working' or based on false premises ( although experimented with traditional stuff ) , was certainly and his system was certainly eclectic .... widely eclectic. And of course highly personalized ... extremely so .... even to the extent that he wrote about that , encouraged people to develop their own personalized system from varied sources ... to the extent that he threatened them against copying his personalizations , saying it would backfire on them and they might take on his worse qualities if they did such 'imitation ' . Even the staid Goldern Dawn made such innovations . So is Chaos magic really a 'thing' .... or mostly a designation put onto recent magic that is somewhat fashionable and cool ? if it isnt ... what system of modern magick is not Chaos magick ?

even the curdled skin ...... no inari sushi for you ? I LUV it ! Although I have to say I do not approve of non-traditional ingredients in it ..... corn on top ???? Noooooooo and dont make it like a Totoro either !

I think he posted a lot of his teachings on this site .... have you found them here ? Also, when searching you might find a discussion about whether he has died or not ..... I cant remember the outcome of that one .

Recently I have had a young 'first-step' magical student visit and quiz me about her desire to go along the path of magical development , particularly she wants to cut through the crap and get to the essence ... and do something to set her firmly on her way . After a bit of thought I came up with 'the basic essential practice ' .... which seems to me to be ' 'the oath' (of dedication to such a path) . This is very similar to the above '' I give permission ...... '' I took mine at a very early age and was very 'insistent' about it ; '' I dont care what you do or what happens ..... '' Well .... its been an 'interesting ride ' A technical point ....... you say 'summoning ' ... and you 'saw' But they say .... and the tradition says ..... 'knowledge and conversation ' .... very different things between those two . .... did you take the sword ? I also wanted to ask you about 'Chaos magicians ' .... But I will start a new thread in esoteric section for that .

What ? ... even worse than the Grimm brothers ?

I have to say that my enlightened mind enjoys it when my yes-but ego mind ... all of a sudden , out of the blue, when it can get over itself , declares simply .... ' I dont know ' . The resignation to that is a relief at times ... and even the yes but ego mind needs a holiday now and then . Acceptance then follows resignation .

Well , here is the proof ....... do you like tofu ? I used to make tofu , my GF did bean sprouts , we did a delivery run together . The last drop off point was a small health food store and the woman there always took our left over bean sprouts ... heaps of alfalfa sprouts . I asked if she ate them and she said no, her cat likes them .... not one or two , but a big handful in a bowl ! Imagine puss munching his way through a pile of stringy wet green sprouts https://articles.hepper.com/can-cats-eat-bean-sprouts/ Hmmm ... after this diversion I think I just invoked ... ' dont care mind '

Well ... Man was made in the image of God after all