Nungali

Well, Mr . Ovthebeast , it's not a good idea to reveal your real identity on line .

You dont want to know !

Nah ... me multi skilled . I can affirm that Apech is indeed a white cat and he is lying on a blue colored shaggy rug , looking out the window towards the rather barren hills to the north . ( MY God ! Why did I not think of this before ! ... before I rowed all the way there ! )

Its not that much what he talks about but how he talks about it Eg, some of the things he suggests are based on magical theory but then he changes and twists it ( thats fine too , again its the 'how' ) further eg . meet an 'entity ' , test it , see its reaction . This is often done by seeing its reaction to a sign words titles symbols magical analysis of any name it claims ... and so on . thats the 'what ' ... the how ? Take my Octopus God thread - a remarkable development that may be unique in human history ( except from one singular example - which also comes form the ancient Aboriginals here - the only occurrence we know of where a nationwide sweeping change in society for the better , comes not from disaster man made or natural , not from war or invasion or similar - but by sheer ingenuity and brilliance of vision . Lairg's response ; I was looking at a blah blah and astrally saw octopus on peoples heads . ( with no comparisons , explanations , etc ) .... a LOT of '' I can do, I did do this '' ... slipping in a touting of his abilities from single word associations .

Is not that fear of pre death or moment of death suffering ? NO, I do not want that either , however there is another type of death ... sudden ! I have had 'escape' from that at least 3 times .... and it changes you ..... deeply! Which is what the death rebirth experience in initiation is trying to achieve - nothing like the real experience though . I remember once lying in the middle of the road , unable to move , the motorcycle is nearby on its side . I am at the blind part coming out of an S bend ... a notorious and dangerous one . Any moment a car or a log truck could come around that corner and I am going to ground up along with the motorcycle under what ever vehicle comes next . I distinctly remember looking across the field nearby to the escarpment and rain forest in the distance and thinking ; ''Well, this is good place to die , at least I have had a great life .'' That really surprised me . After a while I started to get a tingling in my legs and arms .... my back was not broken , just numbed . My legs gradually started to move a bit . A stomach slid over to the motorcycle ( a light weight trail bike ) managed to somehow pull it and myself off the road into a ditch ... and then a truck came around the corner and drove right through where I was lying . Then there was the accident where the experienced police (in such matters ) insisted I could not have been a driver and took me to the car , pointed out the crushed cab and asked why I removed the body and where I hid it . I could offer no explanation . Thank goodness a witness came forward and affirmed my story . And then another one , again, where instead of dying I ended up with a 28y yo GF with three little kids . never had a family .... that must have been on the cards .... no death for you yet ! You have not done the 'father stuff' ! Who is in running this show ? Yes, I have seen that too . MY father and all the family , strongly Christian .... the fear was tangible ! Exactly ! And that is the decision we came to ( me and my specialist ) ... ''Off the record ... ''' as he said . '' It seems to me you are not the type of person to want to fill yourself up on medications that will not make you feel good and really only extend your life at the end of it in a nursing home .... you seem like the type that will just .... 'take care of the end yourself ' . I agreed and asked how long I might have ? Difficult to say ; it can flare up and come out of the blue and be very quick end or maybe you got another 20 years . Sounds good to me .... that was around 20 years ago . The weird thing is ; what I thought was the flare up was not , that was the incident when I got really bad side effects ( which ended up not being from the condition but something else and when I got better ) and I got into that relationship with the woman and children ..... but here is the weird thing ; she wanted me to marry her , I scoffed as I thought I was much too old . She eventually went off and married some other older guy ... and it tuned out he had the same condition as me and a year later he got the flare up and died ! - who is running this 'show ' ? Indeed ! I spent some time practicing for my death , after a while I realized my life is practice for what comes after death .

Wow ... you have really become 'Hinduised' !

..... I probably should not make the obvious joke there .... My answer is Different practices are done to achieve different ends - question was too general .

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Cool ! I used to make up (on the spot) a lot of kids stories , when I had a lot to do with kids ( and during 'the age of stories , before they became 'electronic screen addicts ' ) - but I would like to put a twist on them and break the old archetype ( like a young girl finds her dreams come true ... without the prince that has to 'save her' . So I made my dragon story - a female dragon . By the way , you know how dragons are said to guard treasure ... or have treasure , did you know how they get that treasure ? Up in the tops of the craggy high mountains where they nest, they scrape out molds in the rocks with their claws . They dig out other rocks and blast them with their fiery breath to extract the precious metals and pour them, liquid, into the molds . When they dig out rocks they sometimes find gems and they cut these with their teeth by carefully biting them on different angles and polishing them on their rough skin . Then they set them in the metal shapes they have made ; rings, chalices, crowns, bangles and store them in their cave . Dont try to steal them ... she will get very very angry ! ... how a dragon takes a bath ; She splashes around a bit in the lava , being mindful to do behind her ears and neck , then while glowing hot , she plummets from the mountain top through the sky like a burning meteor into the ocean far below . There in the beach side waves she turns and rolls and the hissing water and steam thoroughly finish the job . She emerges even more shiny and burnished and bright ( and might even do a little Samba along the beach (if no one is watching ) ... just because that feels good .

'' ... 5. And the infant grew strong; yet its strength was in its weakness; and though to look at it from before was to look upon a man-child, from behind it was a little girl with golden hair. N ow, when the child wished to tempt a maid he faced and approached her; and when the child wished to tempt a man she turned her back on him and fled. 4. But one day the child met, at the self-same hour, Love; and the man, seeing a woman, approached her eagerly, and the woman, seeing a man, fled, so that he might capture her. Thus it came about that the child met the child and wondered, not knowing that the child had lost the child. So it was that they walked side by side. 3. Then that part of the child that was man loved and lusted for that part of the child that was woman; and each knew not that each was the other, and felt that they were two and yet one, nevertheless one and yet two. And when one said: “Who art thou?” the other answered at the self-same moment: “Who am I?” - from Liber ΘΕΣΑΥΡΟΥ ΕΙΔΩΛΩΝ by General J. F. C. ( Boney) Fuller ; ( he painted as well )

Dont be like what ? Ducking out when a real test is suggested ?

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You are assuming Lairg can do them . We need an observer to verify it