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#17 Aletheia

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Posted Yesterday, 08:48 AM

yoga teachers? No insult to MPY ( modern postural yoga) yoga teachers, but for this you probably need someone "not a yoga" teacher. I wish I could recommend you a good yoga school, but they are either all dead (real yoga teachers) or don't exist anymore ( US/Europe, you might get lucky in India, but the latest I heard it's bad there as well). At most luckiest way, you will find a yoga teacher who got her injuries already from "too much asana" and is into much gentler yoga ( where energy can be actually felt). If you go to any of those "beer yoga", "hip hop yoga", "playboy bunny yoga", etc, you will most likely injure yourself ( wrists, hips, knees) and have zero progress. Of course, you will be versed on misspelled mantras and Rumi quotes and essential oils in savasana while Deva Premal is playing... but that's not what will make you progress...

 

Check this out: https://www.google.c...qigong master&*

if any of them calls ( i..e intuition says needs to go), go for it. 

 

p.s. +1 on everything Starjumper said. My teacher was just saying it yesterday, that even he still gets "battle scars" from picking up sick energy from people. How you have to carefully watch any changes in your mood/thoughts/emotions/physical wellness and purge it right away. Otherwise you won't be able to get rid of it yourself and will need someone to do it for you ( this is why it's important to have at least one other energy healing contact for yourself. Think about it like acupuncturist would not needle himself, but would go to someone else. Same thing here.)

I was thinking about getting the physical body in place because I heard problems can manifest on the physical level and although I'm reasonably good internally I thought there could be some problems trapped in muscle tissue etc that I'm totally unaware of and an average yoga teacher can help me with that. I need to get a straight back too.

 

But, the problem is I don't think I can take a yoga or tai chi class and manage to keep my mouth shut. Everyone I know thinks I just go around lecturing everyone I meet about philosophy 24/7 LOL


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#18 Aletheia

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Posted Yesterday, 09:05 AM

I would encourage you to not experiment with energy on other living things. If you are strong enough to do good, you are strong enough to accidentally cause harm.

Just food for thought...

I don't really have bad thoughts, I have been doing philosophy for a while. I always catch myself when I fall into diseased patterns of thought which get tangled up in negative emotions. I said to the other people in the room that my friend was in a state of complete love when she went quiet because that is the energy I was sending. I don't think bad of people really and I don't get angry with people with different views from mine. I don't vote or follow politics, go shopping or anything like that!

 

But, I'm not claiming to be a saint and I'm sure there's a ton of things I'm not aware of, So I'll take your advise seriously. Plus thinking about it now I probably made a mistake because her leg went from purple to red and normal colour pretty quickly and I kept looking at the red bits and thinking it's still not better and trying to project more energy into the leg, so I take your point. That is the first time I tried something like that and I was trying to help. But, I admit I haven't got a clue what I'm doing ultimately. So thanks!



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Posted Yesterday, 09:32 AM

 I just go around lecturing everyone I meet about philosophy 24/7 LOL

 

why don't you create an online course on Udemy or like or create a book/video/youtube channel/podcast and channel that energy there? It seems there is a "chatter" part in you wants to be heard ( ask me how I know this "philosophy" creature, lolz, we are very good friends and mine can only shut up when I actually channel it into something creative, usually works:P )

 

you are correct on physical part though, if you don't do it, it ( energy) will tear you apart. You need to clear meridians to let it flow, but you also need to learn lots of stuff ( how do I know? I am in a same boat as you. And I am slowly figuring out that throwing qi balls around filled with different ranges of energy is probably not so good for humanity.... I can be very cruel and very powerful...kind of does not go well with "nice and fluffy kitty" attire...)



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Posted Yesterday, 09:34 AM

I don't really have bad thoughts, I have been doing philosophy for a while. I always catch myself when I fall into diseased patterns of thought which get tangled up in negative emotions. I said to the other people in the room that my friend was in a state of complete love when she went quiet because that is the energy I was sending. I don't think bad of people really and I don't get angry with people with different views from mine. I don't vote or follow politics, go shopping or anything like that!
 
But, I'm not claiming to be a saint and I'm sure there's a ton of things I'm not aware of, So I'll take your advise seriously. Plus thinking about it now I probably made a mistake because her leg went from purple to red and normal colour pretty quickly and I kept looking at the red bits and thinking it's still not better and trying to project more energy into the leg, so I take your point. That is the first time I tried something like that and I was trying to help. But, I admit I haven't got a clue what I'm doing ultimately. So thanks!

I didn't mean it to sound like "bad thoughts" -- good intentions with a scalpel can be very dangerous without "a clue what I'm doing", right? :) You wouldn't randomly hand out pharmaceuticals (or potent herbs, if you prefer) to see what happens or with the hope that doing so with a loving heart will make it beneficial.

That you had a positive influence on your friend is wonderful! You clearly have an aptitude for healing. If it is a path you wish to follow, take the time to develop a foundation, to learn to focus, and to understand (at least beyond the "have a clue" state :)) what you are working with. Your friends & pets will thank you...

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Posted Yesterday, 09:45 AM

why don't you create an online course on Udemy or like or create a book/video/youtube channel/podcast and channel that energy there? It seems there is a "chatter" part in you wants to be heard ( ask me how I know this "philosophy" creature, lolz, we are very good friends and mine can only shut up when I actually channel it into something creative, usually works:P )

 

you are correct on physical part though, if you don't do it, it ( energy) will tear you apart. You need to clear meridians to let it flow, but you also need to learn lots of stuff ( how do I know? I am in a same boat as you. And I am slowly figuring out that throwing qi balls around filled with different ranges of energy is probably not so good for humanity.... I can be very cruel and very powerful...kind of does not go well with "nice and fluffy kitty" attire...)

I'm not really a teacher, I just happen to like philosophy but probably I'm not in a position to teach right now anyway,. I need to learn more first. In any case the internet already has enough half-educated morons labelling themselves "enlightened educators" as it is. I probably know enough to turn out a fine brigade of paranoid schizophrenics lol


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Posted Yesterday, 10:00 AM

I didn't mean it to sound like "bad thoughts" -- good intentions with a scalpel can be very dangerous without "a clue what I'm doing", right? :) You wouldn't randomly hand out pharmaceuticals (or potent herbs, if you prefer) to see what happens or with the hope that doing so with a loving heart will make it beneficial.

That you had a positive influence on your friend is wonderful! You clearly have an aptitude for healing. If it is a path you wish to follow, take the time to develop a foundation, to learn to focus, and to understand (at least beyond the "have a clue" state :)) what you are working with. Your friends & pets will thank you...

:)

Right, so I think I'll start another thread to ask where I start out developing the foundation. I was going to read Damo's first book on Nei Dan next to get some understanding of the theory. Healing would be great but I don't know what that foundation entails. I just know a little bit about internal alchemy atm. I still don't even have a daily practise I just breathe at the heat during the day when I'm sat at the computer, walking, sitting on the train etc.


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Posted Yesterday, 10:04 AM

Right, so I think I'll start another thread to ask where I start out developing the foundation. I was going to read Damo's first book on Nei Dan next to get some understanding of the theory. Healing would be great but I don't know what that foundation entails. I just know a little bit about internal alchemy atm. I still don't even have a daily practise I just breathe at the heat during the day when I'm sat at the computer, walking, sitting on the train etc.

I suggest starting that new thread in the General Discussion section.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:11 AM

Thanks. I'm going to build a strong base and daily practise first because I kind of fell through the ceiling with qigong/neigong. I'm not going to say anything to anyone or do anything other than get the foundations right.

 

Anyway, I already learned my lesson. I spent the morning looking up local yoga teachers, I need to work on my posture because I don't have a straight back and I was thinking I can show off when I see them and now I don't feel any energy because I'm thinking with my ego.

 

Okay, I can feel some energy now I'm not trying to focus in on it, But, I understand I need to build a strong base first and that starts with the physical body and proper daily practise.

 

The problem there is I don't know what I don't know. So what should I be doing? Some yoga, some tai chi for the physical body (by Western standards I'm healthy, but I lack flexibility and I have a curved back most of the time when I concentrate on the heat so it's generally too near the skin in the false DT) and a daily meditation? In daily meditation what should I? drop my consciousness to my stomach and breathe at the heat, or practise the orbit or both?

 

 

I suggest you stay FAR away from Western yoga.  When I think of yoga it makes me think of this:

 

 

It is absolutely useless for cultivating chi power, and Western chi kung is turning into the same thing, so most chi kung isn't much help either, specially the kinds where they sit around with their finger in their nose, visualizing things.   Tai chi, taught by a real master is a good foundation but it can take many years and some luck.

 

Also I would say stay away from Reiki, it's turned into a new age religion and it is a farce compared to chi kung healing methods.

 

The fastest and most efficient way to cultivate chi power is with Zhan Zhuang, standing meditation, and there happens to be a really good master of Zhan Zhuang in England, possibly near where you live.  Even if you don't live near him he has written what I consider a best book on cultivation, and that is called "The way of Energy" and it's by master Lam Kam Chuen.

 

The good thing about Zhan Zhuang is that since there is little of no movement that it is possible to learn it from a book or a video.  You can look up Zhan Zhuang on Utube and get lots of good instruction.  Lam Kam Chuen also has made some good videos for beginners that you could start with:

 

 

Here's a quote about Zhan Zhang that a friend wrote that is kind of interesting:  "Sometimes it happens during Zhan Zhuang (Standing Meditation) that unusal powers or abilities may spontaneously manifest - such as somehow being freed from the confines and limitations of the body leaving one to soar beyond, moving about more freely than ever before - sort of like being on a Magic Carpet. These experiences and others like them cannot be taught but rather appear suddenly as if 'out of the blue."

 

No doubt there is some discussion about Zhan Zhuang on this forum but I don't know the quality of it.  Also, to a lot of people on this forum it is popular to discuss abstaining from sex to cultivate chi power but that's isn't necessary.

 

I'm interested in hearing about your experience starting standing meditations.


Edited by Starjumper, Yesterday, 10:20 AM.


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Posted Yesterday, 10:27 AM

I suggest starting that new thread in the General Discussion section.

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Actually, I read the book Miracle Healing from China by Effie Chow and in the book it says the brainwaves of the people being healed match up with the qigong masters during the session. So maybe the qigong masters actually take it easy with the qi projection because the people being healed experience the same kind of conscious awareness they experience. I know for a fact if I were to experience 3 years ago what I experience now it would probably send me straight to a mental institution because conceptually it's completely different. So, I'll keep that in mind for sure.



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Posted Yesterday, 11:36 AM

I suggest you stay FAR away from Western yoga.  When I think of yoga it makes me think of this:

 

 

It is absolutely useless for cultivating chi power, and Western chi kung is turning into the same thing, so most chi kung isn't much help either, specially the kinds where they sit around with their finger in their nose, visualizing things.   Tai chi, taught by a real master is a good foundation but it can take many years and some luck.

 

Also I would say stay away from Reiki, it's turned into a new age religion and it is a farce compared to chi kung healing methods.

 

The fastest and most efficient way to cultivate chi power is with Zhan Zhuang, standing meditation, and there happens to be a really good master of Zhan Zhuang in England, possibly near where you live.  Even if you don't live near him he has written what I consider a best book on cultivation, and that is called "The way of Energy" and it's by master Lam Kam Chuen.

 

The good thing about Zhan Zhuang is that since there is little of no movement that it is possible to learn it from a book or a video.  You can look up Zhan Zhuang on Utube and get lots of good instruction.  Lam Kam Chuen also has made some good videos for beginners that you could start with:

 

 

Here's a quote about Zhan Zhang that a friend wrote that is kind of interesting:  "Sometimes it happens during Zhan Zhuang (Standing Meditation) that unusal powers or abilities may spontaneously manifest - such as somehow being freed from the confines and limitations of the body leaving one to soar beyond, moving about more freely than ever before - sort of like being on a Magic Carpet. These experiences and others like them cannot be taught but rather appear suddenly as if 'out of the blue."

 

No doubt there is some discussion about Zhan Zhuang on this forum but I don't know the quality of it.  Also, to a lot of people on this forum it is popular to discuss abstaining from sex to cultivate chi power but that's isn't necessary.

 

I'm interested in hearing about your experience starting standing meditations.

I haven't really done standing meditations.

My main interest had been structures of consciousness through time going back to pre-civilization periods. Like culture is a macro-structure and our particular individual consciousnesses are embedded within the organism. So the organism undergoes stages of change though time which in turn reshapes our complete understanding of the world -- space, time, the essence of reality etc. Each stage creates a total all-encompassing environing surround which is difficult to see beyond.

 

The structures of consciousness I'd been thinking about are pretty similar to how I envision the differing frequencies of jing>qi>shen>dao.

 

EDIT: you mean seeing how I go with standing mediation? Yes, I was wondering about the moving yin and yang exercise and thinking it could help aligning the 3 fields and the thrusting channel. My back not being straight is something I think is a big problem right now. I'll start another thread so I can ask specific questions to get me going in the right direction.


Edited by Aletheia, Yesterday, 11:55 AM.


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Posted Today, 04:08 AM

Your study of the structures of consciousness sounds interesting.  I was only suggesting standing meditation as a way for you to cultivate chi power, as a path towards becoming a healer.  Another way to study consciousness via personal experience is to arrive at a state of non thinking through extensive meditation.






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