What can be said about Qi

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[Nungali]

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[Master Logray]

On 1/10/2026 at 5:09 AM, ChiDragon said:

When people breathe, ideally is to have the lung to be filled with oxygen at its full capacity. However, some people may have breathing problems. Thus they only have the lung filled from 25% to 50% but not 100%. People with their lungs filled 100% every time during inhalation lives longer. It is because they have a better immune system. Somehow, the ancient Taoist discovered by breathing slow, long and deep had improved the health tremendously. The breathing method was known as Tu Na(吐納). The modern term now is called Qigong(氣功).

let's assume that the initial lung capacity of the Qigong practitioner was 50%, by performing the Tu Na method will be increased to 100%. That is what it mean by getting more oxygen.

 

 

 

First of all, people 1000, 2000, 3000 years ago fully used their lungs.   They were mostly farmer, or laborers.   The official and intellectuals were a very small minority.   There were no vehicle, machines...   These people could overuse their lung more than under use.  If these ancients still used 50% of their capacity, there would be important biological and evolutionary factors that maintain this proportion.  

 

Secondly ancient Taoist did not want a slow, long, deep breathing.   They wanted a small, fine, long, silk, consistent, deep breathing - at first.  In the advance stage, the breathing is supposed to be stopped or to be so fine that one cannot hear or discern.  Then it becomes spore breathing when the lung is not really used.

 

Then modern science says there is something called oxidative stress.  When you have more than enough oxygen, you die earlier with numerous symptoms.   It is why there are so many supplements to lessen it.  Oxygen can be lethal.   A few more percentage of oxygen in our atmosphere, we all die.   The theory of oxygen does not stand.

 

 

[ChiDragon]

On 1/9/2026 at 7:01 PM, Taomeow said:

Yeah, and then there's hyperoxia, a life-threatening medical condition caused by too much oxygen. 

 

1 hour ago, Master Logray said:

Then modern science says there is something called oxidative stress.  When you have more than enough oxygen, you die earlier with numerous symptoms.   It is why there are so many supplements to lessen it.  Oxygen can be lethal.   A few more percentage of oxygen in our atmosphere, we all die.   The theory of oxygen does not stand.

People understand normal breathing not under medical treatment oxidative stress will not happen. Nature only allow for the lungs to be filled with its full capacity. There is no chance for the lungs to overfilled. However, a ventilator is a high-pressure machine used when a patient cannot breathe sufficiently on their own. It physically pushes oxygen-rich air into the lungs may cause Oxygen Toxicity.

Oxygen Toxicity: While oxygen is necessary, breathing pure (100%) oxygen for too long can actually damage the delicate lining of the lungs.

 

A few more percentage of oxygen in our lungs, we all die. It is not in the atmosphere.  Please keep the fact straight.

Edited 3 hours ago by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

1 hour ago, Master Logray said:

If these ancients still used 50% of their capacity, there would be important biological and evolutionary factors that maintain this proportion.  

This is not true, it means they did not use the lungs in its full capacity. The Taoist found a breathing method to use the lungs more efficient to its full capacity. The breathing method is called 吐納(Tu Na). I don't know have you ever heard of. Nowadays, it is called 氣功(Qigong1). 

Edited 3 hours ago by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

2 hours ago, Master Logray said:

Secondly ancient Taoist did not want a slow, long, deep breathing.   They wanted a small, fine, long, silk, consistent, deep breathing - at first.  In the advance stage, the breathing is supposed to be stopped or to be so fine that one cannot hear or discern.  Then it becomes spore breathing when the lung is not really used.

I wouldn't do that if I were you. You will die sooner than you think if follow the above procedure. The brain use 20% of the total oxygen in the body. If the brain is in the hypoxia condition for more than 6 minutes, then it will be brain dead.

 

Please learn some simple scientific facts about breathing. 

https://biologyinsights.com/why-do-we-breathe-a-biological-explanation/#google_vignette

Edited 3 hours ago by ChiDragon