System like LoneManPai?

[drnhng]

Hi,

 

I came across the system of LoneManPai / Son of the Gods (SoTG), which seems to combine Magick/Tantra/Alchemy/Qigong without Dogma.

 

However, it seems like LoneManPai site is no longer running, and I can't find a way to obtain the material. I have emailed the author, but received an automated response saying that it is not active since 2022.

Does anyone know if we can still obtain the teaching for LoneManPai?

 

Or, is there another system like this, where it combines Western Magick with Eastern Qigong/Yoga, Alchemy, and without the dogma?

 

Thanks

Edited November 26 by drnhng

[Nungali]

I think he posted a lot of his teachings on this site .... have you found them here ?  

 

Also,  when searching you might find a discussion about whether he has died or not ..... I cant remember the outcome of that one . 

[Gerard]

FYI:

 

 

[forestofclarity]

I don't know that LMP would be something to emulate.

 

But Mark Rasmus has some stuff that uses Eastern and Western modalities. 

[drnhng]

58 minutes ago, forestofclarity said:

I don't know that LMP would be something to emulate.

 

But Mark Rasmus has some stuff that uses Eastern and Western modalities. 

 I just did a quick scan of Mark Rasmus' stuff, gonna check it out.

"I don't know that LMP would be something to emulate" - as in there may not be another system like LMP?

 

The lasting info on LMP left out there seems to be SotG's posts on this forum as @Nungali mentioned, though it seems that the thorough information was left on the forum which is now down.

Thanks 

Edited November 27 by drnhng

[Neirong]

On 26.11.2025 at 10:07 PM, drnhng said:

which seems to combine Magick/Tantra/Alchemy/Qigong without Dogma

Combining narcissistic personality disorder with drugs and greed?
SOTG tried to sell his dusty, dirty room as a “powerful spiritual ritual summoning millions of ghosts.”
A deranged cult leader.

None of the traditions mentioned above are easy to join or master. Most genuine internal teachings have rigorous screening processes that can take years or even decades, plus mandatory in-person meetings. When you see someone casually combining all of them like it’s nothing, the odds are overwhelming that they just downloaded a bunch of random PDFs online and convinced themselves that’s the real thing. Truly the bliss of ignorance.

[kakapo]

1 hour ago, Neirong said:

Combining narcissistic personality disorder with drugs and greed?
SOTG tried to sell his dusty, dirty room as a “powerful spiritual ritual summoning millions of ghosts.”
A deranged cult leader.

None of the traditions mentioned above are easy to join or master. Most genuine internal teachings have rigorous screening processes that can take years or even decades, plus mandatory in-person meetings. When you see someone casually combining all of them like it’s nothing, the odds are overwhelming that they just downloaded a bunch of random PDFs online and convinced themselves that’s the real thing. Truly the bliss of ignorance.

 

I mean I think SOTG was an improvement over people who claim to to be able to fly faster than the speed of light, shoot eye lasers, and kill giant Naga Demons, but to each their own.  

 

 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

12 hours ago, kakapo said:

 

I mean I think SOTG was an improvement over people who claim to to be able to fly faster than the speed of light, shoot eye lasers, and kill giant Naga Demons, but to each their own.  

 

 

You do realise SOTG was abusing his female students? Is that an improvement over others?

[kakapo]

1 hour ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

You do realise SOTG was abusing his female students? Is that an improvement over others?

 

I was unaware that was occurring, to be clear I am not a fan of SOTG or his "teachings".  

 

I just find it humorous that people who think they can literally fly and shoot eye lasers are the first ones to criticize others.  

 

 

[cake1234566]

former student for many years who practiced the full system, it was just techs taken from the daobums classics list so ymaa, damo mitchell, jaj, the bliss of inner fire etc

then the magick stuff was just pure new age + some bardon and crowley under a mainstream lhp context 

anything he tried to make himself outside of that just straight up didnt work

i spent many hours finding all of he places he took the techs that worked from

please find a reputable teacher, any reputable teacher and stay far away from this mess

edit: also he is not dead he posts ai art and ominous messages on his site then deletes them every now and then

Edited December 4 by cake1234566

[cake1234566]

On 11/30/2025 at 7:50 AM, kakapo said:

 

I mean I think SOTG was an improvement over people who claim to to be able to fly faster than the speed of light, shoot eye lasers, and kill giant Naga Demons, but to each their own.  

 

 

he did in fact claim to be able to levitate, walk on water, alter his weight at will, kill people with his energy powers, time travel, and bring souls back from the underworld

 

 

[Neirong]

8 hours ago, cake1234566 said:

then the magick stuff was just pure new age + some bardon and crowley under a mainstream lhp context 

anything he tried to make himself outside of that just straight up didnt work

 

Magic is a profound, comprehensive, and difficult cultivation art that takes decades to learn in a proper setting, with outstanding talent, legitimate teachers, and solid resource base. It is not suitable for mentally weak beings, and well, dumb people. A fool could potentially lift dumbbells and grow muscle, he could train neigong and develop qi power, but he will never be able to step into magic cultivation. There is a reason why first arcana is "The Fool". Someone who exists in illusions can never evolve. 

It absolutely cannot be self-taught, self-initiated, learned from public books alone. You need to have a legitimate source of transmission, a living master.

By ignoring all these warnings written on the wall, people end up developing deviations, psychological problems, mental instability, dissociation, and all sorts of disturbing personality adjustments.

 

Developing a mental field is a delicate work, with endless caveats, traps and pitfalls. 
 

8 hours ago, cake1234566 said:

claim to be able to levitate, walk on water, alter his weight at will, kill people with his energy powers, time travel, and bring souls back from the underworld

 

When you practice improperly and stupidly, based on "methods and techniques" found in random books, conduct "summoning rituals" to gain power, you end up developing a mental disorder. 

 

In reality, in cultivation circles, there are many safeguards and checks in place. If SoTG would ever be a member of any legitimate school, then every and all of his "claimed" abilities would be tested and verified by peers and masters, and he most likely would get kicked out as a result on the very first or second day.

[cake1234566]

On 11/27/2025 at 3:07 AM, drnhng said:

Hi,

 

I came across the system of LoneManPai / Son of the Gods (SoTG), which seems to combine Magick/Tantra/Alchemy/Qigong without Dogma.

 

However, it seems like LoneManPai site is no longer running, and I can't find a way to obtain the material. I have emailed the author, but received an automated response saying that it is not active since 2022.

Does anyone know if we can still obtain the teaching for LoneManPai?

 

Or, is there another system like this, where it combines Western Magick with Eastern Qigong/Yoga, Alchemy, and without the dogma?

 

Thanks

 

I realized that my last post didn't really answer OP's question so I'll post about it in more detail:

Note that this isn't a recommendation to practice this but more of an interesting record of a system that was practiced by a lot of people at one point or another
 

The system did indeed produce very fast results because it focused on the qihai in many techniques which creates the feeling of qi very early without the actual internal development, I've omitted most of that here because it depletes the body
If you're really interested in lmp then here's how you can practice the same thing, safely

The system started with Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming's embryonic breathing to form the ldt, that's followed by a really unsafe ritual type of thing to get energy from the sun that was taken from a mid 2000s magick forum, Nathan Brine has some good Longmen pore breathing techniques in his books that id recommend doing instead
Then, breathe yang from the sky through the qihai, and yin from the earth through the huiyin and place yi in the ldt while they interact
The theory being once the jing field would swell, it'd activate the mingmen and girdle vessel automatically
Back to Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming to learn the mco, there were a few mudras but the only working one was the hands together to assist the mco as in Flying the Golden Crystals Behind the Elbows through Nathan Brine's writings on Longmen

You'd then visualize an orb sitting atop your head a few inches up connected to the baihui which i think was some sort of misunderstanding about the birth of yang shen, there's adjacent material in jerry alan johnsons work and you can find deeper material in Vajrayana

To close sessions there was zero xing to bathe and cleanse which was a really bad idea, you'd just kinda stop and keep the yi on your ldt

 

Further levels had you connect to his energetic constructs to progress, every single member that attempted the higher levels reported feeling drained and some reported symptoms of psychosis so I won't even discuss that stuff here

 

As for magick, once you progress in a real system and get the flow going up and down the central channel that stuff becomes unavoidable, I wouldn't really recommend getting into it before then but if you do then stick to stuff written before the 1800s and groups that have a history going back at least 100 years

That'll get you past a lot of the disinfo flood

 

You should be extremely skeptical if someone claims to have mastered both neidan and western magick because each takes an entire lifetime of practice, the area is extremely ripe with cults and megalomaniacs that will happily claim to know everything



 

Edited Tuesday at 07:48 AM by cake1234566
grammar

[drnhng]

12 hours ago, cake1234566 said:

 

I realized that my last post didn't really answer OP's question so I'll post about it in more detail:

Note that this isn't a recommendation to practice this but more of an interesting record of a system that was practiced by a lot of people at one point or another
 

The system did indeed produce very fast results because it focused on the qihai in many techniques which creates the feeling of qi very early without the actual internal development, I've omitted most of that here because it depletes the body
If you're really interested in lmp then here's how you can practice the same thing, safely

The system started with Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming's embryonic breathing to form the ldt, that's followed by a really unsafe ritual type of thing to get energy from the sun that was taken from a mid 2000s magick forum, Nathan Brine has some good Longmen pore breathing techniques in his books that id recommend doing instead
Then, breathe yang from the sky through the qihai, and yin from the earth through the huiyin and place yi in the ldt while they interact
The theory being once the jing field would swell, it'd activate the mingmen and girdle vessel automatically
Back to Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming to learn the mco, there were a few mudras but the only working one was the hands together to assist the mco as in Flying the Golden Crystals Behind the Elbows through Nathan Brine's writings on Longmen

You'd then visualize an orb sitting atop your head a few inches up connected to the baihui which i think was some sort of misunderstanding about the birth of yang shen, there's adjacent material in jerry alan johnsons work and you can find deeper material in Vajrayana

To close sessions there was zero xing to bathe and cleanse which was a really bad idea, you'd just kinda stop and keep the yi on your ldt

 

Further levels had you connect to his energetic constructs to progress, every single member that attempted the higher levels reported feeling drained and some reported symptoms of psychosis so I won't even discuss that stuff here

 

As for magick, once you progress in a real system and get the flow going up and down the central channel that stuff becomes unavoidable, I wouldn't really recommend getting into it before then but if you do then stick to stuff written before the 1800s and groups that have a history going back at least 100 years

That'll get you past a lot of the disinfo flood

 

You should be extremely skeptical if someone claims to have mastered both neidan and western magick because each takes an entire lifetime of practice, the area is extremely ripe with cults and megalomaniacs that will happily claim to know everything



 

Thanks for the detailed response 

 

i think I’ll give it a try with dr. Yang’s embryonic breathing, pore breathing, and the MCO mudras. 
 

I also got started on Mark Rasmus’ backdoor into hermetics book where he talks about elements and pore breathing too, but no talk on LDT. Mixing it with some of Mantak Chia’s material like bone breathing

 

Seems like i’m missing direct practice with LDT and MCO, and i also haven’t done any such rituals yet like the ball exercise you mentioned, and haven’t gotten to magick yet

 

 thanks!

[cake1234566]

Again i dont suggest actually practicing it, but if you insist i hope that the exposure to these different systems helps you find a reputable system to stick with

I dont want lmp to become any sort of mopai urban legend where because it isnt taught it seems more grand than it is

lmp isnt taught anymore because it isnt effective lol

[drnhng]

5 hours ago, cake1234566 said:

Again i dont suggest actually practicing it, but if you insist i hope that the exposure to these different systems helps you find a reputable system to stick with

I dont want lmp to become any sort of mopai urban legend where because it isnt taught it seems more grand than it is

lmp isnt taught anymore because it isnt effective lol

yea thanks im catching the drift that the LMP thing is something I want to stay away from haha
thanks, i'll check out the techniques you've mentioned

Edited yesterday at 03:51 AM by drnhng