Spiritual warfare

[Lairg]

Soft  disclosure often appears in movies etc

 

 

[Haribol]

Anyone knows anything or got some reflection on Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman? 

[zerostao]

I thought this kinda fits the thread

And FIPO Tucker is not Fox News and this post is not political in any way

 

 

[zerostao]

On 10/16/2025 at 9:46 AM, Surya said:

Anyone knows anything or got some reflection on Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman? 

 

I find it interesting that many Hindu consider Jesus an Avatar of Incarnate God. Not reincarnated.

However, many other Hindu have a different take on this 

[Lairg]

On 10/17/2025 at 12:46 AM, Surya said:

reflection on Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman

 

The earliest documented duality of good and evil gods comes from the Sumerian experience with Enlil (lord of air) and Enki (lord of earth).   

 

Enki managed the multiple attempts to breed the human race and still likes humans.   See exopolitics.org for relevant interviews.

 

Enlil is often regarded as a psychopath and apparently forced Enki to swear not to inform the humans of the coming flood.  Enlil found humans too numerous and too noisy.

 

So Enki spoke to a wall, while having arranged for the Sumerian Noah to stand on the other side while Enki explained how to survive the flood

 

Here is an approximate image

 

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At a more profound level there is the out-breath from The Source of All generating universes and separated dark intelligences.  In parallel TSoA breathes in, returning the dark separateness to light unity.  This reflected in the tzimtzum concept.

 

That parallel flow generates many experiences that human call evil and good.

 

Lucifer directly translates as "light bearer".  It seems that religious interpretation has been superimposed.

 

The function that is called Christ is propagated at planetary, systemic, galactic levels etc, with intelligences taking the various roles.

 

Thus the accounts of Jesus the Christ refer to a human that was over-lighted by the Christ energies of this planet.   

 

Note that 30 pieces of silver were paid to identify Jesus despite his public profile.  This suggests that the Christ energies were apparent in various disciples but only an insider could identify the anchor. 

 

There are also accounts going back centuries of the Cosmic Christ - the intelligence carrying those functions for the solar system.  See Teilhard de Chardin for a 20th century account.

 

Christ is from the Greek word Christos meaning anointed.   It seems that the  Jewish word Messiah, also means anointed.  It comes from the Egyptian practice of anointing their kings with the fat of the Messeh - the sacred crocodile.  The crocodile was the symbol/vehicle of the Makara of the Hindu.

 

 

Edited October 18 by Lairg

[Haribol]

On 2.10.2025 at 7:22 PM, zerostao said:

 

We shouldn't doubt the narrator because of the fact that Paul Morphy passed on in 1884, should we?

Still, it's a good story.

Came over this short, and due to the last thirty seconds of the (extremely good) video you posted, it felt right to share the short as well:

 

 

[zerostao]

1 hour ago, Haribol said:

Came over this short, and due to the last thirty seconds of the (extremely good) video you posted, it felt right to share the short as well:

 

 

 

I had thought of posting on this thread; about how, it's much more involved than choosing a side.

Your short video shows that choosing a side was done for us, by Nature.

 

 

[Nungali]

On 10/17/2025 at 1:46 AM, Haribol said:

Anyone knows anything or got some reflection on Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman? 

 

Lucifer means to carry or bring life and was associated to Venus as the 'Morning Star'  while Venus as 'Evening Star; was called Noctifur - bringer of night . 

 

The name did not have Christian association with their  'Devil '  until  the Latin Vulgate bible mis-translation of Isaiah  14 : 12 ; helel .  (הֵילֵל), ' shining one' , 'morning star ' -   referring to the King of Babylon  (  sort of ;  you are bright now but will fade and disappear when the Sun rises . ) 

 

In theosophy  Lucifer is sort of opposite to Ahriman - specifically in anthroposophy  - which has its own take on Ahriman   . 

 

But christians see them as opposites , however Christ and Lucifer are the same linguistically  and in Rev 22:16 Jesus claims to be 'bright Morning Star ' - Lucifer .

 

In the later Avesta Ahriman  is the destructive spirit ruling over all 'bad ' things  and opposing the 'Lord' Ahura Mazda . 

 

In the old Avesta  'spirit' is 'mind' (mainyu )  and Ahriman is that potential for our minds to become negative , opposing , evil , selfish, anti-social . 

[Nungali]

9 hours ago, Haribol said:

Came over this short, and due to the last thirty seconds of the (extremely good) video you posted, it felt right to share the short as well:

 

 

 

No ... it won't . 

 

My life doesnt get changed by watching f***ing ' animie clip '   -  is this what its come to now ? 

 

My life gets changed by observing life  . 

 

and , by the way , I would have caught the butterfly  instead and then released it  to fly away ... and spiders dont die if they dont eat a butterfly ,  plenty of others things for a spider to eat .

 

But you won't learn that from watching animie  .

[old3bob]

 

most everything has a political aspect of some kind,  (good or bad) no getting around that,  including thinking that it doesn't !

 

 fear of or crossing those in power like dictators is adharmic politics in action...

[Nungali]

Before our court case , near everyone abandoned us  ( being 4 in number  )  and even people on our side ( meaning they would be severely impacted by a decision against us )  had not only that fear , but joined them in their prosecution of themselves  .... I know , nuts .  Our solicitor and 'big knob' solicitors headed for the hills .  Everyone told me to back off . . '' Thats the Attorney - General !!! '' 

 

I did a divination from the art of war ; it was about not fearing those in high office with robes and trappings of authority ; they might be dressed up idiots , maybe they got there through bribes, relatives or corruption .   I could not have got a clearer message , so I went for it . 

 

Tore 'em a new one , I did .  

 

[ and yesterday while looking at what AI had to say about our community , it was wrong . I argued with it and  it insisted  (it said  under 'cy-pres'  doctrine the Attorney general can seize a communities land and assets if it was set up as a 'spiritual community' and the AG considered it no longer was fulfilling its aims , or they had changed  ... what 'spirituality does not evolve or change ? )  .  I referred it to our court case and it acknowledged its mistake .  I asked if it would change its entry on the subject, include it and show its significance . Now AI shows we had  land mark case and win and this has protected all spiritual communities in the state against land and asset seizure by the Attorney General . ] 

 

.... you're welcome communes !      ( sarcasm , as no one except a few people can even dimly comprehend the issue and results, even people that were threatened by it ...... roos in the headlights* !  )

 

 

*  It means a person is so frightened, surprised, or confused by an unexpected situation that they freeze up and are unable to move, think, or react. 

[Haribol]

15 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

No ... it won't . 

 

My life doesnt get changed by watching f***ing ' animie clip '   -  is this what its come to now ? 

 

My life gets changed by observing life  . 

 

and , by the way , I would have caught the butterfly  instead and then released it  to fly away ... and spiders dont die if they dont eat a butterfly ,  plenty of others things for a spider to eat .

 

But you won't learn that from watching animie  .

Well… information is information, and I found it to be a wonderful story. And stories works on many levels : ) First and foremost that parable (forgive me, Japanese YouTube short) illustrated the need to kill the vices in order to become more holy. I feel that at this moment, it is time to get serious, and let go of/«kill» what is harmful. 
 

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Nehemiah’s Final Reforms

13 On that day the Book of Moses was read aloud in the hearing of the people and there it was found written that no Ammonite or Moabite should ever be admitted into the assembly of God, 2 because they had not met the Israelites with food and water but had hired Balaam to call a curse down on them. (Our God, however, turned the curse into a blessing.) 3 When the people heard this law, they excluded from Israel all who were of foreign descent.

4 Before this, Eliashib the priest had been put in charge of the storerooms of the house of our God. He was closely associated with Tobiah,5 and he had provided him with a large room formerly used to store the grain offerings and incense and temple articles, and also the tithesof grain, new wine and olive oil prescribed for the Levites, musicians and gatekeepers, as well as the contributions for the priests.

6 But while all this was going on, I was not in Jerusalem, for in the thirty-second year of Artaxerxes king of Babylon I had returned to the king. Some time later I asked his permission7 and came back to Jerusalem. Here I learned about the evil thing Eliashib had done in providing Tobiah a room in the courts of the house of God. 8 I was greatly displeased and threw all Tobiah’s household goods out of the room. 9 I gave orders to purify the rooms, and then I put back into them the equipment of the house of God, with the grain offerings and the incense.

10 I also learned that the portions assigned to the Levites had not been given to them, and that all the Levites and musicians responsible for the service had gone back to their own fields. 11 So I rebuked the officials and asked them, “Why is the house of God neglected?” Then I called them together and stationed them at their posts.

12 All Judah brought the tithes of grain, new wine and olive oil into the storerooms. 13 I put Shelemiah the priest, Zadok the scribe, and a Levite named Pedaiah in charge of the storerooms and made Hanan son of Zakkur, the son of Mattaniah, their assistant, because they were considered trustworthy. They were made responsible for distributing the supplies to their fellow Levites.

14 Remember me for this, my God, and do not blot out what I have so faithfully done for the house of my God and its services.

 

[Cobie]

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Edited December 20 by Cobie

[Haribol]

@Nungali  That latest comment came out a little odd, Ill attempt to rewrite it.

So... the information is information was a response this:

 

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My life doesnt get changed by watching f***ing ' animie clip '   -  is this what its come to now ? 

 

My life gets changed by observing life  . 

In my eyes tho, it is a story and observation just like any other. If it comes from some mysterious ancient scroll, a mentally ill person, my grandmother or an animated show, does not make it more or less valueble. What matters is if it is good or not, if it ressonates and you get something from it. IMO, anyway. 

 

Then I attempted to say that what I got from the short, at this point in time, was that I have to let go of the habits, vices, and even some people, that no longer is congruent to the person I am becomming. If we take my enthusiasm of amphetamines for instance, I would have to starve that "spider" so that I can become a butterfly : )